Nets changing their name

[YosemiteSam]

The Nets is actually a solid name already. If there are any teams that need to change their name, it should be the Hornets, Bobcats, Grizzlies, and Thunder. The Utah Jazz is technically silly but there's too much history there that it's become a household name.

Hornets >>>>>>> Nets

I like Jazz and even Thunder is good. Now, Bobcats and Grizzlies. They should change their name. I have no clue why someone thought Bobcats what a good idea. This isn't high school.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I have no idea of the background of this pic, but they should just go with these. Those unis are classically sweet.

 

[Cythim]

The history of baseball in Brooklyn is it's own thing entirely, that I won't pretend to be well versed in but you may be overlooking the fact that when the Dodgers were formed, Brooklyn actually WAS a city. That's no longer the case.

That's like naming a team "The Manhattan Dodgers" at this point.

And why would that be a problem? We have teams named after states they don't play in (NY Jets/Giants) and teams named after state nicknames (Golden State Warriors). We even have a team named after two cities (LA Angels of Anaheim).

If we were talking about Portland or Milwaukee renaming their team after the neighborhood they play in I would completely see your point. Brooklyn has global recognition that has the possibility of attracting more fans than another New York team. Naming it Brooklyn gives automatic ownership to anyone who is or from that borough.

 

[TheCount]

And why would that be a problem? We have teams named after states they don't play in (NY Jets/Giants) and teams named after state nicknames (Golden State Warriors). We even have a team named after two cities (LA Angels of Anaheim).

If we were talking about Portland or Milwaukee renaming their team after the neighborhood they play in I would completely see your point. Brooklyn has global recognition that has the possibility of attracting more fans than another New York team. Naming it Brooklyn gives automatic ownership to anyone who is or from that borough.

If that's what you believe, I'm not here to change your opinion.

I still think it's unlikely and a bad move if they go ahead with it. Let the fans nickname the team after Brooklyn.

It wouldn't matter what they named the team, as long as the stadium is in Brooklyn, Brooklynites will claim it.

 

[casmith07]

If that's what you believe, I'm not here to change your opinion.

I still think it's unlikely and a bad move if they go ahead with it. Let the fans nickname the team after Brooklyn.

It wouldn't matter what they named the team, as long as the stadium is in Brooklyn, Brooklynites will claim it.

I still think they'll name it after Brooklyn. Like I said, the marketing value alone will be higher. All the cool, urban gear they'll sell to NBA fans with the "BKLN" moniker.

Of course, they could still market that gear despite the team being the New York ______ too, being that it's located in Brooklyn. The "alternate" logo could be the BKLN design with the team colors on hats and shirts and such.

 

[rantanamo]

Brooklyn has 2.5 million residents. Don't think there's a problem with naming a team after such a populous place.

 

[Cythim]

I forgot to add the two teams named after New England

 

[Royal Laegotti]

They'll probably be named something like the Brooklyn Air, Brooklyn Cloud or the Brooklyn Hip Hop (for Jay-Z) or something really stupid so nobody gets offended.

 

[TheCount]

I still think they'll name it after Brooklyn. Like I said, the marketing value alone will be higher. All the cool, urban gear they'll sell to NBA fans with the "BKLN" moniker.

Of course, they could still market that gear despite the team being the New York ______ too, being that it's located in Brooklyn. The "alternate" logo could be the BKLN design with the team colors on hats and shirts and such.

Exactly, regardless of what they name it they can still market the Brooklyn merch, like throwback Jersey's with the Brooklyn moniker.

The main issue, in my mind, is that Brooklyn is still technically a small part of NYC. Around the world when people think of New York, they mostly think of Manhattan but there aren't any "Manhattan ______" teams, are there?

It's not a matter of how popular the borough is, I've lived in Brooklyn for years now. I think it's infinitely better than Manhattan, but it's not going to be the epicenter of NYC anytime soon.

 

[TheCount]

I forgot to add the two teams named after New England

You are going in completely the opposite direction of the claim you're making. They named New England that to appeal better to a larger numbers of people and states.

Go smaller, not bigger.

Perhaps you've confused yourself by thinking my issue is that naming a team after anything but a city or state is a bad idea, that's not the case. I've been pretty clear that the reason I think it's a bad idea is because Brooklyn is a borough and a small part of New York City, much less New York State.

 

[Cythim]

You are going in completely the opposite direction of the claim you're making. They named New England that to appeal better to a larger numbers of people and states.

Go smaller, not bigger.

Perhaps you've confused yourself by thinking my issue is that naming a team after anything but a city or state is a bad idea, that's not the case. I've been pretty clear that the reason I think it's a bad idea is because Brooklyn is a borough and a small part of New York City, much less New York State.

As a small part of New York, it is still bigger than the 12 smallest NBA markets. If they decide to use New York instead of Brooklyn what would make anyone cheer for them over the Knicks besides a dislike for the Knicks? By going with Brooklyn as their name they are saying "Hey Brooklyn, New York may already have a team, but we belong to you."


If a new NFL team were started in the New England do you think they would try to steal Patriot fans by also calling themselves New England (or something bigger) or go smaller with a state or city to garner local support?

The problem here is you aren't looking at the big picture. Creating another New York team will not garner much support in a saturated sports market (this will be their 8th team in the big 4 major leagues). Just look at London and the EPL as a great example. There is no team named after London but there are lots of teams in London named after their respective neighborhoods and boroughs.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I still think they'll name it after Brooklyn. Like I said, the marketing value alone will be higher. All the cool, urban gear they'll sell to NBA fans with the "BKLN" moniker.

Of course, they could still market that gear despite the team being the New York ______ too, being that it's located in Brooklyn. The "alternate" logo could be the BKLN design with the team colors on hats and shirts and such.

This is without a doubt, the dumbest marketing scheme ever.

 

[casmith07]

This is without a doubt, the dumbest marketing scheme ever.

It's the NBA :laugh1:

 

[TheCount]

As a small part of New York, it is still bigger than the 12 smallest NBA markets. If they decide to use New York instead of Brooklyn what would make anyone cheer for them over the Knicks besides a dislike for the Knicks? By going with Brooklyn as their name they are saying "Hey Brooklyn, New York may already have a team, but we belong to you."

The problem here is you aren't looking at the big picture. Creating another New York team will not garner much support in a saturated sports market (this will be their 8th team in the big 4 major leagues). Just look at London and the EPL as a great example. There is no team named after London but there are lots of teams in London named after their respective neighborhoods and boroughs.

You do understand that Brooklyn is IN New York City, right?

Regardless of whether the team is named New York or Brooklyn, the stadium is in Brooklyn and it WILL be in the same markets as those 8 other teams you seem so sure are already straining the New York Sports market.

 

[Cythim]

You do understand that Brooklyn is IN New York City, right?

Regardless of whether the team is named New York or Brooklyn, the stadium is in Brooklyn and it WILL be in the same markets as those 8 other teams you seem so sure are already straining the New York Sports market.

Good lord, do you really need to throw out insults? It is in the same market as those 7 other teams but instead of trying to represent the entire market they are carving out Brooklyn and telling them, "New York may have 7 other pro teams but we belong just to you!"


Do you understand the status of New York's second sports teams? Everyone loves the Yankees and the Mets are an afterthough. Everyone loves the Giants and the Jets are an afterthough. Everyone loves the Rangers and the Islanders are an afterthought. Taking the New York name will make the Nets an afterthought but using Brooklyn instead gives them the ability to carve out their own market within a larger one.

 

[TheCount]

Good lord, do you really need to throw out insults? It is in the same market as those 7 other teams but instead of trying to represent the entire market they are carving out Brooklyn and telling them, "New York may have 7 other pro teams but we belong just to you!"

I insulted you in that quote? I'd love to hear what part of that you considered an insult.

Do you understand the status of New York's second sports teams? Everyone loves the Yankees and the Mets are an afterthough. Everyone loves the Giants and the Jets are an afterthough. Everyone loves the Rangers and the Islanders are an afterthought. Taking the New York name will make the Nets an afterthought but using Brooklyn instead gives them the ability to carve out their own market within a larger one.

Oh boy. Do you even live here??? I mean come on man, give me a break. From this statement alone I think it's safe to say you don't know nearly as much about the NY Sports scene as you seem to think you do.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Good lord, do you really need to throw out insults? It is in the same market as those 7 other teams but instead of trying to represent the entire market they are carving out Brooklyn and telling them, "New York may have 7 other pro teams but we belong just to you!"


Do you understand the status of New York's second sports teams? Everyone loves the Yankees and the Mets are an afterthough. Everyone loves the Giants and the Jets are an afterthough. Everyone loves the Rangers and the Islanders are an afterthought. Taking the New York name will make the Nets an afterthought but using Brooklyn instead gives them the ability to carve out their own market within a larger one.

I disagree w/ that. The Jets and Mets are huge stories here.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I disagree w/ that. The Jets and Mets are huge stories here.

They are, but I think he is referring to their following compared to the Yankees / Giants.

The Jets and Mets are like red-headed step-children in NY. :laugh2: They aren't loved like the normal children, but they still get lunch money.

 

[Cythim]

I insulted you in that quote? I'd love to hear what part of that you considered an insult.




Oh boy. Do you even live here??? I mean come on man, give me a break. From this statement alone I think it's safe to say you don't know nearly as much about the NY Sports scene as you seem to think you do.

I disagree w/ that. The Jets and Mets are huge stories here.

Yeah, in New York they are loved but on the national scale they are nothing. They will find some fair-weather fans when they put together good teams but on a down year you won't see a Mets or Jets cap outside of New York.

They are, but I think he is referring to their following compared to the Yankees / Giants.

The Jets and Mets are like red-headed step-children in NY. :laugh2: They aren't loved like the normal children, but they still get lunch money.

 

[TheCount]

Yeah, in New York they are loved but on the national scale they are nothing. They will find some fair-weather fans when they put together good teams but on a down year you won't see a Mets or Jets cap outside of New York.

You just described sports in general.

The idea that the team should be named after a smaller borough inside the same city because they won't be regarded as well as the Yankees is kind of asking a lot, isn't it?

You think you see a lot of Packers gear outside of Greenbay or a lot of Cowboys gear outside of Texas? That's the nature of sports.

They are, but I think he is referring to their following compared to the Yankees / Giants.

The Jets and Mets are like red-headed step-children in NY. :laugh2: They aren't loved like the normal children, but they still get lunch money.

True, in terms of how non-fans may view the teams but the Jets have a huge following, there's a reason they're the 9th most valuable sports franchise in all sports according to Forbes, just two spots below the Giants.