New Cap space after releases and restructures?

MrPhil

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No,, it is $33.7 million after June 1st. The whole point of making him a June 1st cut was to take the cap hits in the future. We save 10.9 million on the cap by cutting him June 1st. The dead money is already calculated into the figures. He was set to count $16.7 million against the cap. So if you take our current cap number of $22.8 million and remove Zeke’s entire cap number of $16.7 then we have cap space of $39.5 million. However, we have to adjust for the dead cap space of $5.8 million which drops our cap room from $39.5 million to $33.7 million.
Interesting. Good to know that I have been interpreting the numbers from Overthecap wrong. Thanks for the education.
 

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Another fun cap fact: In addition to the 10.9 million from Zeke in June, they'll also get some mild cap relief on Pollard's tag once Zeke no longer counts against the top 5 salaries at the position.
 

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Devils advocates to your point and two reasons you don’t.

1) Like Zeke, injuries start to add up, you pay and he stops producing.

2) You pay now, his contract doesn’t kick in until after his rookie ends. He goes out and has a 1,500 yard season and 10+ TDs. Guess who feels underpaid?
BUT its known fact you should get them cheap now or pay more later,.i didn't make it up.

another thing, zeke didn't stop producing because he got paid get over that stupid narrative , 2019 had very good season, 2020 remember dak went down , 11 OL variations and 4 qbs used it was terrible season for the team, zekes didnt stop running he had no one opening holes or to play with as threat at QB, 2021 8 games into the season running great 5.2 YPC seemed fresh and ready for rebound season, got hurt played hurt the last 9 games but before that ran hard ran with effort and looked fresh, 2022 same thing looked great early, dont tell me he stopped producing with his role cut in half, played hurt and still 15 games 850 yards, 12 tds and had bad thigh and knee he dealt with..

no facts to support he just stopped playing hard getting his bag. thats a piss poor SM narrative created by haters. I can go game by game from 2019-2022 and how he actually wasnt responsible for his downfall, nothing to do with money, simply bad timing. Oh 2019 KM reign of yards are yards OC . mix and match OL , injuries along said OL, pass happy play calls, injurers etc. nothing to do with being content with money..its the opposite played hurt , did all he could given circumstances.

Just because that happened with a few players doesn't mean that how you conduct business the rest of the way, so we shouldnt pay Parsons because of what happened with Lee and Jaylon?? make him wait 5 years LMAO..no that not how you do it..lock them up if you think they are the ones, so its cheaper now.
 

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Zeke's space is going to go almost entirely to the draft picks.
I don't think so. Last year they had a similar issue with La'el Collins' and post 6/1 salary savings and signed most of the draft class before that date even though the cap space was tighter last year
 

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BUT its known fact you should get them cheap now or pay more later,.i didn't make it up.

another thing, zeke didn't stop producing because he got paid get over that stupid narrative , 2019 had very good season, 2020 remember dak went down , 11 OL variations and 4 qbs used it was terrible season for the team, zekes didnt stop running he had no one opening holes or to play with as threat at QB, 2021 8 games into the season running great 5.2 YPC seemed fresh and ready for rebound season, got hurt played hurt the last 9 games but before that ran hard ran with effort and looked fresh, 2022 same thing looked great early, dont tell me he stopped producing with his role cut in half, played hurt and still 15 games 850 yards, 12 tds and had bad thigh and knee he dealt with..

no facts to support he just stopped playing hard getting his bag. thats a piss poor SM narrative created by haters. I can go game by game from 2019-2022 and how he actually wasnt responsible for his downfall, nothing to do with money, simply bad timing. Oh 2019 KM reign of yards are yards OC . mix and match OL , injuries along said OL, pass happy play calls, injurers etc. nothing to do with being content with money..its the opposite played hurt , did all he could given circumstances.

Just because that happened with a few players doesn't mean that how you conduct business the rest of the way, so we shouldnt pay Parsons because of what happened with Lee and Jaylon?? make him wait 5 years LMAO..no that not how you do it..lock them up if you think they are the ones, so its cheaper now.
The last two we paid early was Elliott and Jaylon Smith. Ezekiel Elliott had four years remaining on a massive six-year deal of a $90 million extension he signed back in 2019. Smiths cap hit last year was larger than Bobby Wagner to not even play for us.
 

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They still have holes at DT, LG, TE, and WR, plus extensions for Lamb and Diggs that get more expensive each day they aren't done.

They have plenty of space to get it done, but that's basically the to-do list.
* they have holes at LG, TE, WR.

Jerry has the same players at DT they’ve had there for years and always said it was covered
 

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That's true, but it's net cheaper to get it done now. Plus you don't get stuck with Diggs on the tag and Lamb on a $19.7 million option next year.
Diggs can go. Corners like him are easy to replace. He is nothing special and cost us the niners game when he intentionally whiffed on kittles circus catch.
 

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The last two we paid early was Elliott and Jaylon Smith. Ezekiel Elliott had four years remaining on a massive six-year deal of a $90 million extension he signed back in 2019. Smiths cap hit last year was larger than Bobby Wagner to not even play for us.
again that them this is diggs, parsons, and lamb, none are RBs and none are coming off drop foot , you lose common sense.

jeez, u need a hammer to understand the difference you don't become gun shy, this is what happened in FA many issues at WR trades that blew up in their faces and Carr not paying off the FO got gun shy in fere agency now, you all like that now you want them to risk these top players on our own team??
 

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Too bad they can't sign players and make it a post June 1st signing. :laugh:

This was strictly to get the money off the books and for future contracts.
I don't see them using it to extend any player before the season starts.
But could they use it for a trade?

I seen yesterday they were only $4.3 million over, not including Zeke., and before Tyron & DLaw restructures. However much those were. I have not looked too much on those yet.
Just getting started for the day.
 

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They still have holes at DT, LG, TE, and WR, plus extensions for Lamb and Diggs that get more expensive each day they aren't done.

They have plenty of space to get it done, but that's basically the to-do list.
Everything won’t be simply filled in FA, the draft is going to have to fill some needs
 

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LG may or may not be a hole.
I was just parroting what that guy said. I wouldn’t start Tyron at LT unless you’re fully convinced he’ll play 12+ games, and if you’re fully convinced he’ll play 12+ games then LG is not a hole
 

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Over the CAP has them at $22.8, Sportrac has it at $26.4. I have no idea what they have accounted for or not. On June 1 I believe they get a $6.8 million CAP spending reduction for Zeke but free agency will be over by then.

Out of their current CAP status they have to pay rookies, so figure something like $5 million for that. They have enough to sign a DT and still have some wiggle room for whatever else turns up.
 

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They like going into the season with a decent chunk for in season deals. So the question is do they spend big on a guy or try to carry some over
I expect 3-4 more guys signed though most will be cheaper
I think they want a WR but OBJ is living in fantasy land and they may wait for him to come back to reality
If you sign OBJ for big bucks….then why did you let Amari Cooper go Out the door? At least with him, his resume for I is much cleaner.
 
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