New Coaching Staff

[gimmesix]

If that's his decision, the team will continue to do what they've done with veteran free agency. That's anything but an encouraging prospect. SJ would be well advised to upgrade his habit of welcoming 3rd-tier veteran free agents and adopt a far more effective vet free agency agenda.

That's what I expect until we see differently. They've been doing it this way since 2013, so they've had plenty of time to see that it doesn't work. Of course, spending lots of money in free agency and neglecting the draft didn't work, either. We really only had a small window where we both used the draft well and used free agency (primarily the Parcells years), but trying to find out if Quincy Carter could be the QB and then not playing Romo until Parcells was pretty much done ruined our chances of capitalizing on that.

 

[Bullflop]

That's what I expect until we see differently. They've been doing it this way since 2013, so they've had plenty of time to see that it doesn't work. Of course, spending lots of money in free agency and neglecting the draft didn't work, either. We really only had a small window where we both used the draft well and used free agency (primarily the Parcells years), but trying to find out if Quincy Carter could be the QB and then not playing Romo until Parcells was pretty much done ruined our chances of capitalizing on that.

Such a decision wouldn't be a surprise to anyone, with myself included. There's no rule that says believing him is mandatory -- that's for sure. If he's determined to remain stagnant, it will only add to the resentment that he has caused in the past. Nobody will be surprised if that happens.

 

[Kingofholland]

I would rather give No-Schott a shot than retread failed head coaches. If they failed elsewhere, I don't think they could win here with the way the Joneses run the team. I like the staff that is being assembled overall. I don't like the special teams coordinator selection as it seems like this is more a friend of No-Schott hiring than one that was done based on accomplishments. Eberflus makes sense because of his connections to the team and his success as a DC in Indy. Adams makes sense if we want to run the ball because he's an up-and-coming coach who shows some acumen in that area. Sorenson is a headscratcher.

Now, were there better first-time head coaches to choose from than No-Schott? Certainly, there were other coordinators who had better success than him recently and actually called plays for their teams.

I feel similarly, sans Sorenson. I thought he was an interesting hire based on his unique background. To me it's almost like hiring CJ Goodwin 14 years later after he's gained experience coaching. Nick Sorenson was actually a pretty good special teams player in the NFL and allowed him to have a long career in the NFL despite playing very little on defense.

Now I don't know what kind of kicking coach he is, but I imagine he knows a few things about special teams coverage.

 

[Hawkeye19]

I am not a fan of this FO having no plan when it came to McCarthy. He should have been canned after GB. They failed.

Then they hem and haw on his job security during and after the season, only to make it clear they want him to return, only to have him walk away.

So the Schotty hiring is less about him than it is about the failed process to arrive at his promotion.

The fact they stayed in house and comfortable with someone they are familiar with is another cause for concern.

That said— it is clear that Schotty is a respected “good guy” and a decent communicator.

Does that mean he will succeed? Time will tell. But if past performance is an indicator of future results— he looks to be a midling coach.

To expect a guy who has gotten mediocre results to suddenly become amazing when he has more pressure, scrutiny, and expectations is asking an awful lot.

Especially when he is dealing with this FO and the circus they live in

 

[bigE79]

My view of the new coaches is pretty positive.

They all come to the Cowboys with one thing in mind:

Love that movie.. RIP Roddy

 

[DandyDon52]

So many fans whined and complained about Schottenheimer being named coach. Heck I was not even sure how I felt.
Rather it was him or lack of the effort the front office put into it. Which is the same IMO as to not liking the hire.

However, these same many fans, seem to like the new staff as it is coming together.

So are you giving these hired coaches as credit to Brian, or to Jerry?
Can it be they are working together on it, so the fan myth proves, Jerry is not so controllimg after all?

Who you giving credit to. As to it looks better than many thought.
Yes Jerry needs to provide players now, and we need to see it on the field. However, that is not the point.

Who”s idea are all these coaches many seem to like.

I think it is shotty. but jerry is letting him do it.
He let mike pick his staff at first too.
I like it too, but need to see how they do in 25 to judge shot or his coaches.

 

[DandyDon52]

I am not a fan of this FO having no plan when it came to McCarthy. He should have been canned after GB. They failed.

Then they hem and haw on his job security during and after the season, only to make it clear they want him to return, only to have him walk away.

So the Schotty hiring is less about him than it is about the failed process to arrive at his promotion.

The fact they stayed in house and comfortable with someone they are familiar with is another cause for concern.

That said— it is clear that Schotty is a respected “good guy” and a decent communicator.

Does that mean he will succeed? Time will tell. But if past performance is an indicator of future results— he looks to be a midling coach.

To expect a guy who has gotten mediocre results to suddenly become amazing when he has more pressure, scrutiny, and expectations is asking an awful lot.

Especially when he is dealing with this FO and the circus they live in

being a HC and being a position coach including dc or oc, are completely different.
Being a good HC requires skill that are different from position coach.

You wont know about shot till you see the results in sept thru dec.

 

[RonWashington]

The Defense needs a ton of help holding leads stopping the run banged up secondary . Eberflus did not excite me one bit as a choice they have their work cut out for them. Jerry & McClay are going to have to supply him some help .

 

[Hawkeye19]

being a HC and being a position coach including dc or oc, are completely different.
Being a good HC requires skill that are different from position coach.

You wont know about shot till you see the results in sept thru dec.

“Completely different”? Not really. All coaching requires the ability to teach, communicate, cast vision, problem solve, resolve conflict, set goals, mange time and schedules, delegate, and hold people accountable to their performance

A HC might have a larger scope in terms of their responsibilities, the expectations put on them, the scrutiny they face, and people directly reporting to them— but the skillsets are very similar.

Which is precisely why successful OCs and DCs, and position coaches are promoted to being a HC. And is also precisely why many in the media and the NFL world are scratching their head over the Schotty hire— his coaching resume has been meh

 

[noshame]

One and done.

 

[cristglo]

Too soon ..........let's see if Jerry and Stephen get the players. Free agency and draft will give us a true whether or not they are serious about change and not just change but change in the right direction.

I agree way to early to tell but I like the people being put around BS.
The Key

if Jerry and Stephen get the players. Free agency and draft will give us a true whether or not they are serious about change and not just change but change in the right direction.

 

[JW82]

With the baseline I started with of zero confidence in Schotty, I am pleased with the DC/OC hires. Especially the Adams hire. IMO that is not a business as usual Dallas hire. That alone, may be what has people liking the move. The bar is very low for the Jones boys. It also,
IMO shows that Brian clearly sees what they've been missing, a consistent run game and went and got, the guy who might be the best available option. I think the oline, especially Steele regressed with Solari, maybe Adams gets him back on track and gets the full potential out of Guyton. He seemed to have success with AZ even when backups had to play.

 

[NDGAEDE]

I'm encouraged, for sure. I was worried that they were just going to prop up Schotty as the 'new' face of the same coaching staff, sans Zimmer. With Adams as the OC, it seems like they're actually making substantive changes that will affect our scheme and strategy on gameday.

A lot rests on Schotty's shoulders as a playcaller, but I like the thinking so far.

 

[75boyz]

“Completely different”? Not really. All coaching requires the ability to teach, communicate, cast vision, problem solve, resolve conflict, set goals, mange time and schedules, delegate, and hold people accountable to their performance

A HC might have a larger scope in terms of their responsibilities, the expectations put on them, the scrutiny they face, and people directly reporting to them— but the skillsets are very similar.

Which is precisely why successful OCs and DCs, and position coaches are promoted to being a HC. And is also precisely why many in the media and the NFL world are scratching their head over the Schotty hire— his coaching resume has been meh

Outstanding take as usual bro. I'll just add that this unique Cowboy coaching process of failing up as a former coordinator has no precedent to my knowledge.

 

[Steve007]

Obviously with the Jones at the top of pile it could never be as good as we all would like however... What are your thoughts on this new regime? At least it a younger staff and no retreads.

The Jones boys are still pulling the strings. The drought will continue.

 

[maryquality]

The Jones boys are still pulling the strings. The drought will continue.

You forgot to put "drought" in quotes.

 

[CashMan]

Obviously with the Jones at the top of pile it could never be as good as we all would like however... What are your thoughts on this new regime? At least it a younger staff and no retreads.

Look at what Chicago is doing with their coaching staff and look what Dallas is doing. Ask yourself, which team is putting the better staff together.

 

[blueblood70]

Look at what Chicago is doing with their coaching staff and look what Dallas is doing. Ask yourself, which team is putting the better staff together.

You do realize that you're talking about on paper now do the other five teams show me the coordinators that the teams who lost Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn and Cohen what did they replace him with cause from what I look at him I've never heard of most of them I've never seen them at their new current positions they've been elevated they're high risk and there are no names they're no big names what does that tell you it tells you they think it's the players and the scheme and that elevating and bringing over somebody into a new position they should be able to at least keep pace with what they lost..

So what does that tell you?

I can tell you what it tells me Ben Johnson Liam Cohen and Aaron Glenn have never been head coaches before and they are on equal footing with schottenheimer I don't care what they look like on paper let me ask you something did they bring all those players and support staff you know their head coach I mean anybody with them that can make them transition easier like what made them successful was probably the whole package but more so the players the damn lions had it all in two deep team and still didn't make it to the super bowl..

And last I checked those teams had some disappointing exits in the playoffs but let's just keep this real what you're seeing on paper means nothing I already said it they're all gonna have to prove themselves and they don't have the players they don't have the the coaches that they leaned on for advice and support and especially their head coaches that they left those teams they have none of that they literally are starting from scratch I don't care what they look like on paper...

So really there is no answer to your question but I can tell you there's a lot of teams that are feeling their last spots with very similar coaches to what we're doing what only matters here is does it fit what we have are they gonna work together in One Direction and help our team get better all those need to be answered on the field...

I remember people said this about Mike McCarthy when he first got hired nobody else wanted him he was retired he's washed up and then he had a good run here he was absolutely in 2020 the best coaching hire not even a close second he was the most successful coach hired in 2020 but when he was hired I heard the same thing from experts around here you know all the fan base that know everything..

What we need to do is calm down wait to see what the results are on the field and especially you gotta be judgmental on what are they gonna have to work with who's gonna have the better players and the GM supporting them you gotta hope that Jerry and Steven right now knowing some of the backlash they're getting for this Brian schottenheimer hire they may do a little bit more in the offseason to prove themselves right to the public therefore maybe better free agency a better draft maybe a trade nobody expects I think they're probably going to do that just to prove that Brian schottheimer was the proper hire and from a fan bases perspective that's great...

 

[Hawkeye19]

Outstanding take as usual bro. I'll just add that this unique Cowboy coaching process of failing up as a former coordinator has no precedent to my knowledge.

Correct lol.

And it is not personal with Schotty at all… I like the guy and he is clearly well liked in Dallas. People are like “he deserves a chance!!” lol

I just happen to believe the dysfunction in the FO far outweighs anything positive in the culture at this point in the life of the franchise.

I hope he is aces and the team responds with great effort and production— but the deck sure as hell seems stacked against Schotty at this point

 

[75boyz]

Correct lol.

And it is not personal with Schotty at all… I like the guy and he is clearly well liked in Dallas. People are like “he deserves a chance!!” lol

I just happen to believe the dysfunction in the FO far outweighs anything positive in the culture at this point in the life of the franchise.

I hope he is aces and the team responds with great effort and production— but the deck sure as hell seems stacked against Schotty at this point

I agree.
Nothing personal against the man.
Just don't understand the logic behind hiring a guy who is average at best as a coordinator after 2 decades to then promote him and expect success as a head coach.

Well, I actually do understand by the FO's contradictory continuity crap along with the Dak contract influence.

But that just makes it look like the more that things change the more they stay the same.

And here we are.
AGAIN.

Lol