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Cowboys22;2803182 said:
I was about to make a similar comment. The field level suites have 20 seats directly on top of them that are accessed from stairs inside the suite. The main attraction of those suites is that you have access to the club area where the players come through before getting onto the field.

Its seems the OP spent the whole night looking for what he perceived as flaws or negatives. You have the greatest, most technologically advanced stadium in the world and this guy feels the need to point out all the things he didn't like about it even though it was opening night. Yeah, they designed it so they have to truck in port-o-potties for all events with floor seating![/QUOTE]

I'd suggest you pony up some cash for an actual seat in the new stadium and give it a test drive yourself. It is not out of the realm of possibility that if you actually attend the stadium you might just agree with me.

Do you really think the most advanced stadium in the world shouldn't have permanent bathrooms on every floor? Seriously? If so, you don't set the bar very high.
 

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There doesn't seem to be a place for permanent lettering to be installed for a "Ring of Honor". In its place were video rings which encompass the entire stadium. The video quality of the "video rings" also seemed to be of exceptional quality.

The one thing that the cowboys didn't skimp on in the stadium was video size, quantity, or quality. My girlfriend commented about how much money was spent in the very high quality Sony TVs in the concession area. I said, well, Jerry is a very smart man. he knows you aren't going to miss the game while waiting to buy a beer or a Cowboys CheeseSteak ($10) but you might wait for both if you have a huge videoscreen to watch while you wait. It doesn't take many $10.00 sandwiches to pay for a tv.

I am quite sure that in time a lot of the little kinks (the grass outside will acually be watered and turn green- LOL) so those types of things I didn't knit pick. My main CONCERNS (not necessarily complaints just yet) were the things that may not be able to be remedied.

I will once again say that the video quality on the big screen seemed phenominal. I had a side view (not directly facing it) but I couldn't see any seams in the screen from where I was sitting and the picture quality is fantastic. A true magnificent showpiece. One of the smaller portable screens glitched repeatedly for a period of time. Not sure if it was a Cowboys issue or a "band" provided screen, or both.
 

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Verdict;2803480 said:
There doesn't seem to be a place for permanent lettering to be installed for a "Ring of Honor". In its place were video rings which encompass the entire stadium. The video quality of the "video rings" also seemed to be of exceptional quality.

The one thing that the cowboys didn't skimp on in the stadium was video size, quantity, or quality. My girlfriend commented about how much money was spent in the very high quality Sony TVs in the concession area. I said, well, Jerry is a very smart man. he knows you aren't going to miss the game while waiting to buy a beer or a Cowboys CheeseSteak ($10) but you might wait for both if you have a huge videoscreen to watch while you wait. It doesn't take many $10.00 sandwiches to pay for a tv.

I am quite sure that in time a lot of the little kinks (the grass outside will acually be watered and turn green- LOL) so those types of things I didn't knit pick. My main CONCERNS (not necessarily complaints just yet) were the things that may not be able to be remedied.

I will once again say that the video quality on the big screen seemed phenominal. I had a side view (not directly facing it) but I couldn't see any seams in the screen from where I was sitting and the picture quality is fantastic. A true magnificent showpiece. One of the smaller portable screens glitched repeatedly for a period of time. Not sure if it was a Cowboys issue or a "band" provided screen, or both.


Your complaining about the color of the new grass they just put out? 75% of the metroplex has brown grass once we hit august 1st. I would hate to know what you think of that.

and of course their is a permanent place for the ring of honor, go on the website you can see it, they dont have it up yet obviously.

as far as the sound goes, those are controlled by the artists. that was equipment put in the building by the artists that performed.

Who cares what the sound is like in the 400 level, for a football game it wont matter.

and I read a number of times that the lower seats and the sidelines are closer to the fans than they were at Texas Stadium, so You must have just had some depth perception issues or something.
 

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Verdict;2803063 said:
There are suites on ground level (field level) and I have no idea how they will ever be able to see a game. You would think their view would be almost totally restricted of the actual game.
I believe that the ground level suites have seating above each suite. That's how it was described in a video that I saw.

I would imagine that many of the problems they had were because it was the initial event there.
 

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5Stars;2803107 said:
What you got to see was a test run...


;) It has to get better because of all your complaints.


:D

I was thinking the same thing, 1st event in new stadium you are bound to have some glitches that will need to be taken care of before the season
 

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Seems some people don't know the meaning of Critique
 

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jimmy40;2803688 said:
Seems some people don't know the meaning of Critique
I think he was supposed to only point out how awe-inspiring it was. Not the actual state of the stadium.
 

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No I would say he should have balanced the positives and negatives instead of basically saying all negatives. Or at least mentioned more then one or two positives- from all accounts ELSEWHERE there were a lot of positives. AND I am also not talking about the teething problems that there were due to the first event as well.
 

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the OP's statement that the interior design seemed to be set up to control access is probably correct.
when i met the sales rep to buy my tickets he really Stressed how the Club
owners would have their own entrance points and bathrooms and concessions. He talked it up really strong .
i guess he didnt know i was one of the "unwashed masses".
makes sense to me, those 16-150 thousand options arent just for a more comfortable seat.
at Texas Stadium if you had seats in the "lower bowl", there were no bathrooms or concessions there either, you had to walk UP to the concourse , not a big deal.
i have read that the new stadium, being so big, does have what they called micro-climates....some areas very chilly, some sort of warm or stuffy.
with all that glass and the Texas sun i can see where those endzone plazas would be warmer than other areas...hey my sun room is warmer than my living room...duh
all in all im guessing its too early to know how everything is gonna be at the new place and im sure a lot of things will need to be adjusted.
doesnt matter I am still excited about it and looking forward to being there.
 

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Verdict;2803476 said:
Cowboys22;2803182 said:
I was about to make a similar comment. The field level suites have 20 seats directly on top of them that are accessed from stairs inside the suite. The main attraction of those suites is that you have access to the club area where the players come through before getting onto the field.

Its seems the OP spent the whole night looking for what he perceived as flaws or negatives. You have the greatest, most technologically advanced stadium in the world and this guy feels the need to point out all the things he didn't like about it even though it was opening night. Yeah, they designed it so they have to truck in port-o-potties for all events with floor seating![/QUOTE]

I'd suggest you pony up some cash for an actual seat in the new stadium and give it a test drive yourself. It is not out of the realm of possibility that if you actually attend the stadium you might just agree with me.

Do you really think the most advanced stadium in the world shouldn't have permanent bathrooms on every floor? Seriously? If so, you don't set the bar very high.

Life is too short to waste anymore time with your negativity. I'm sorry all you can do is find fault with the new stadium instead of enjoying the experience. If thats how you live your life, I'm glad we aren't buddies because I would have quit calling you back in about two weeks, maybe sooner, if I had to listen to your constant finding fault with everything. You sound like a guy who if a bought you a $10 beer at the stadium all you would do is complain thats its not cold enough, you wish they had some other brand, its too expensive, or the line was too long. Would drive me absolutely nuts!!!!!
 

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I am quite sure that in time a lot of the little kinks (the grass outside will acually be watered and turn green- LOL) so those types of things I didn't knit pick.

theebs;2803638 said:
Your complaining about the color of the new grass they just put out? 75% of the metroplex has brown grass once we hit august 1st. I would hate to know what you think of that.

and of course their is a permanent place for the ring of honor, go on the website you can see it, they dont have it up yet obviously.

as far as the sound goes, those are controlled by the artists. that was equipment put in the building by the artists that performed.

Who cares what the sound is like in the 400 level, for a football game it wont matter.

and I read a number of times that the lower seats and the sidelines are closer to the fans than they were at Texas Stadium, so You must have just had some depth perception issues or something.

are you freakin blind?
 

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Verdict;2803475 said:
Since I am the "OP" or original poster, I will respond to the replies so far with additional insight. First off, I am a Cowboys FAN and season ticket holder for several years now, including the NEW STADIUM. (To the posters who think I was being overly critical) So, its not like I'm a jealous Commanders fan looking to stir ****. I provided my insights as I saw them. I try to play things down the middle of the fairway and be fair and impartial in my assessments.

That being said, here are some additional observations. One of the other posters was right about the sound. It seemed to be accoustically fine at some points during the concert and very bad at other times. I sat in the front row of the very lowest level in the corner.

I was in sectoin 212 - and the sound was great. It did however get VERY loud, to the point where you really couldn't understand what was being sang, but I would assume that had more to do with the equipment for the music guys, rather than the stadium itself.

The seats I sat in were "slightly" larger than the old seats I had in the end zone of the old stadium and were "slightly" more comfortable. I sat near a suite and the suites had "nice looking" leather type seats in them, sort of like office chairs. I don't see how they will last long in this type of environment and for this use, but I guess time will tell.

I've had season tickets since 89 in Tx Stadium and the seats where we were were more than slightly more comfortable.... but that could have been just because it was the club section - I don't know if there were like this throughout?

My girlfriend who is from Houston (who has season tickets to the Texans games (Club level and endzone as well) was impressed with the exterior, hated the exterior access to the stadium, and really hated the interior access to the stadium.

In the old stadium, once you were inside the stadium, you could walk all the way around the stadium inside the chain link fencing and walk the ring around the stadium to your seat. That seems to be pretty much eliminated in the new stadium. If you had friends in another section you could walk over and say hello, have a beer at halftime in the common areas and return to your seats. That seems to be a little more difficult, if not impossible in some respects in the new stadium. I'm not looking to hate the stadium, lol, just reporting my findings here folks. LOL

I agree 100% with this. I'm hoping it was just because it was for a concert and not the actual games - but there is no more walking around the stadium. I had the grand plans of spending the entire night just wandering around, but I wasn't too sucessful with this.

I am sure that as time goes on, that I will find the path of least resistance, and will get to explore the entire stadium, but as with anything, there are positives and negatives. I think the stadium was designed with a control of access in mind to differentiate between price levels of seats. Because of the controlled access though, you cant just wander around the stadium.

Because this was a concert, rather than a football game, it is hard to tell, but it looks like that there will be a significant distance from the field to the fans, which I think, to some extent, negates home field advantage a little bit.

I don't know about this - while it did seem the field might be farther away, when that place is full - it's going to get LOUD.

The air temperature inside the stadium was nice and cool, but the hallways were a little too warm for comfort. Nevertheless, the temperature is much much better than normal weather temperature in the old stadium. LOL

The areas where it got really warm tending to be areas that were halfway closed off from the field, but where there were exterior doors near by. Some of the "bar" areas on the club level felt like this. But, still 1000% times better than a nice Aug. afternoon game at Tx Stadium.

About the porta potties issue ..... I kinda thought the same thing initially ... that maybe that area wasn't complete and that permanent bathrooms might be installed later at field level, but after some thought on the issue I really don't think so. I cant figure out the unpainted areas either ..... It really leaves you scratching your head.

I've read and noticed some areas where construction was still going on. The longest I had to wait to go to the restroom was about a minute, if that. The wife had to wait about 2-3 mintues tops...once again 100 times better that Tx Stadium.

Like I said before ..... If you have any questions, feel free to ask, and I will be happy to answer any questions which I have enough info to give a meaningful response.

One more thing. I really dont care how much it costs within reason, I'm spending to get good parking. I would say that parking around the stadium up close (Blue Parking Equivalent at old stadium) will cost $200 per pass from a scalper at a good game. Yes. I'm serious. We better hope they run shuttles incessantly on game day.

Just my thoughts
 

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CowboyWay;2803374 said:
I was at the concert too, and alot of what the OP said he was correct about. In fact, the more I think about it, he made a pretty good point about the fire code thing. There are some weird doors that you'd have to get out between the 40 yard lines in the 200 section area that would cause people to get trampled to death if you had to get out of there in a hurry.

I chock most of it up to just being the opening night and several of these things can be fixed.






So you are saying when the fans are leaving in droves by halftime of the first homegame, that somebody could lose their life? :D
 

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The reason they are having concerts and soccer games this summer is to get the kinks worked out before Football season. Sure there will be some parking and logistic issues, but overall I am sure the stadium will be as good as advertised.
 

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xWraithx;2803740 said:
are you freakin blind?


Are you.

I know he said they would turn green but still. I am just pointing it out. No big deal. Everything here is brown except in the spring.

It takes like 5 days of the sun here starting in mid june to burn out the lawns here, even the city lawns and parks that have sprinkler systems end up with brown lawns in the summer here.

or maybe I am just blind. I like it here, but even people from here have to admit North Texas might be the ugliest looking place in the country, flat, brown and lacking water and trees. Its one ugly place.
 

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All I can say is that my old saying "No good deed goes unpunished" applies in this instance. I should have known better than try to be informative/helpful to my fellow board members. When will I learn? :D
 

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Verdict;2804064 said:
All I can say is that my old saying "No good deed goes unpunished" applies in this instance. I should have known better than try to be informative/helpful to my fellow board members. When will I learn? :D


well dont be crazy, Everyone here appreciates, I know I do.

Just commenting on the critiquing!!!!!
 

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theebs;2804086 said:
well dont be crazy, Everyone here appreciates, I know I do.

Just commenting on the critiquing!!!!!

I guess I thought telling the good and the bad would be of more benefit to the message board than just telling a lie and saying it was perfect in every way. LOL
 

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theebs;2804044 said:
Are you.

I know he said they would turn green but still. I am just pointing it out. No big deal. Everything here is brown except in the spring.

It takes like 5 days of the sun here starting in mid june to burn out the lawns here, even the city lawns and parks that have sprinkler systems end up with brown lawns in the summer here.

or maybe I am just blind. I like it here, but even people from here have to admit North Texas might be the ugliest looking place in the country, flat, brown and lacking water and trees. Its one ugly place.


much as it pains me to say, there are some very pretty parts just west of Ft. Worth. Sucks you gotta drive through Ft. Worth to get there.
 
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