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Clearly, NE is the better team, and at this point, clearly, Tom Brady is the better QB...no shock on either front.

The Good News:

Dallas lost the first quarter 14-0, but won the second quarter 17-7 instead of packing it in. Dallas came back out and took the lead in the 3rd quarter, which ended with the Cowboys only down by 4 points before being blown out in the 4th quarter.

The defense put more pressure on Tom Brady than I've seen us put on anyone in a long time (mostly in the first half, sadly)...Brady was knocked around and was throwing the ball away quickly rather than risk another hit like the one that resulted in a fumble and TD...that came on a 2-3 step drop. Unfortunately, the pressure didn't continue in the second half.

Garrett found a way to finally get Witten and TO involved on the final drive of the half.

Julius Jones looked like a different runner tonight...he was a stud on one drive, refusing to be tackled by the first guy to hit him...shocking in a good way. Tonight was the first time in two years that I actually wanted to see him in the game more than he was.

Reality:

Nate Jones was a liability, though he did play better on Welker as the game went along, tackling him for stops short of first downs 2-3 times, though an offsides penalty negated one stop. The pass coverage was not horrible as some say. Someone dropped the coverage on Moss on his TD to start the game. Either CB or the safety blew the coverage on Welker's long TD as they both took him short and let him run by them. I thought Reeves may have played his best game tonight and was much more aggressive. Brady hit some perfect passes out there when defenders were within an arm's reach of the defender...he made most all of the right decisions, and whenever we did drop a coverage, he always found that guy...That's why he's TOM BRADY.

Unfortunately, all three of those WR's would be starting in DAllas right now...Brady just has an unbelievable set of weapons. However, the defense was laying the wood and knocked both Morris, RB, and Graham, TE, out of the game. Let's also not forget that the defense scored 7 of our points...the offense only put up 20 points.

We don't have enough quality WR's....we need Glenn back for the playoffs to have any shot of beating a team like NE or INDY. Crayton will can be a Welker type at 3rd receiver, but he's not a top notch starter, and despite the love for Sam Hurd on this site, he gives us absolutely nothing as a 3rd receiver.

Penalties killed us tonight....we forfeited over 100 yards in penalties, plus we gave back an awful lot of gained yards and first downs. Kozier and Adams killed two drives with OL penalties. However, I can at least understand those...TO getting two offensive penalties for not concentrating is inexcusable.

Future:

Ratliff visibly wore down in the middle, imo...if we can keep our current starters healthy, get Terry Glenn back on the field and move Crayton to 3rd receiver, get Henry and TNew starting at CB which brings in Reeves and puts TNew on the slot instead of Jones in the nickel, get Tank Johnson eating up downs in the middle, keeping Ratliff fresh for the pass rush, then I think we'll match up very differently against NE if we were to see them again in the SB.

The final score was UGLY, but there were lots of bright spots on the field tonight, and contrary to some people's knee jerk reactions, the defense actually played better, imo, than the offense did until they wore down and probably took more chances in the 4th quarter.

Jason Garrett has done a great job, but he has to figure out how to get this offense to put up more points in the first half of games...scoring a single TD in the first half would be a good start. There's no reason for this offense, even without Glenn to have never scored a TD in the first quarter all year and to be such slow starters...that's one thing that needs to change.
 

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wayne motley;1709191 said:
Clearly, NE is the better team, and at this point, clearly, Tom Brady is the better QB...no shock on either front.

The Good News:

Dallas lost the first quarter 14-0, but won the second quarter 17-7 instead of packing it in. Dallas came back out and took the lead in the 3rd quarter, which ended with the Cowboys only down by 4 points before being blown out in the 4th quarter.

The defense put more pressure on Tom Brady than I've seen us put on anyone in a long time (mostly in the first half, sadly)...Brady was knocked around and was throwing the ball away quickly rather than risk another hit like the one that resulted in a fumble and TD...that came on a 2-3 step drop. Unfortunately, the pressure didn't continue in the second half.

Garrett found a way to finally get Witten and TO involved on the final drive of the half.

Julius Jones looked like a different runner tonight...he was a stud on one drive, refusing to be tackled by the first guy to hit him...shocking in a good way. Tonight was the first time in two years that I actually wanted to see him in the game more than he was.

Reality:

Nate Jones was a liability, though he did play better on Welker as the game went along, tackling him for stops short of first downs 2-3 times, though an offsides penalty negated one stop. The pass coverage was not horrible as some say. Someone dropped the coverage on Moss on his TD to start the game. Either CB or the safety blew the coverage on Welker's long TD as they both took him short and let him run by them. I thought Reeves may have played his best game tonight and was much more aggressive. Brady hit some perfect passes out there when defenders were within an arm's reach of the defender...he made most all of the right decisions, and whenever we did drop a coverage, he always found that guy...That's why he's TOM BRADY.

Unfortunately, all three of those WR's would be starting in DAllas right now...Brady just has an unbelievable set of weapons. However, the defense was laying the wood and knocked both Morris, RB, and Graham, TE, out of the game. Let's also not forget that the defense scored 7 of our points...the offense only put up 20 points.

We don't have enough quality WR's....we need Glenn back for the playoffs to have any shot of beating a team like NE or INDY. Crayton will can be a Welker type at 3rd receiver, but he's not a top notch starter, and despite the love for Sam Hurd on this site, he gives us absolutely nothing as a 3rd receiver.

Penalties killed us tonight....we forfeited over 100 yards in penalties, plus we gave back an awful lot of gained yards and first downs. Kozier and Adams killed two drives with OL penalties. However, I can at least understand those...TO getting two offensive penalties for not concentrating is inexcusable.

Future:

Ratliff visibly wore down in the middle, imo...if we can keep our current starters healthy, get Terry Glenn back on the field and move Crayton to 3rd receiver, get Henry and TNew starting at CB which brings in Reeves and puts TNew on the slot instead of Jones in the nickel, get Tank Johnson eating up downs in the middle, keeping Ratliff fresh for the pass rush, then I think we'll match up very differently against NE if we were to see them again in the SB.

The final score was UGLY, but there were lots of bright spots on the field tonight, and contrary to some people's knee jerk reactions, the defense actually played better, imo, than the offense did until they wore down and probably took more chances in the 4th quarter.

Jason Garrett has done a great job, but he has to figure out how to get this offense to put up more points in the first half of games...scoring a single TD in the first half would be a good start. There's no reason for this offense, even without Glenn to have never scored a TD in the first quarter all year and to be such slow starters...that's one thing that needs to change.

Watson was the TE that got knocked out. But very good post, i agree with pretty much everything there. Except not all 3 of their WRs would be starting for us..
 

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Nice post Wayne.

I agree with much of it.

The fact is that we're not at New England's level-- yet.

Give us back our injured guys and maybe add a couple more quality draft picks come next April and we could be very close.
 

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wayne motley;1709191 said:
Unfortunately, all three of those WR's would be starting in DAllas right now...Brady just has an unbelievable set of weapons. However, the defense was laying the wood and knocked both Morris, RB, and Graham, TE, out of the game. Let's also not forget that the defense scored 7 of our points...the offense only put up 20 points.

We don't have enough quality WR's....we need Glenn back for the playoffs to have any shot of beating a team like NE or INDY. Crayton will can be a Welker type at 3rd receiver, but he's not a top notch starter, and despite the love for Sam Hurd on this site, he gives us absolutely nothing as a 3rd receiver.

Got killed for it, but I have been saying this for weeks now.

Good post btw.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1709227 said:
Nice post Wayne.

I agree with much of it.

The fact is that we're not at New England's level-- yet.

Give us back our injured guys and maybe add a couple more quality draft picks come next April and we could be very close.
give us back our injured guys and heck I would like another crack at them in February
 

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windward;1709244 said:
give us back our injured guys and heck I would like another crack at them in February

Remember to give them their injuried players back too...
 

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Agree with just about everything- except the need for more pressure on Brady; that has to be emphasized.
 

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good post wayne,I didn't expect to win today,however I knew Welker would kill us,plus Newman is not the same Newman,and Reeves Just dont cut it. I believe we are close but as stated we still need a few more pieces to contend for a championship
 

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burmafrd;1709303 said:
Agree with just about everything- except the need for more pressure on Brady; that has to be emphasized.

Our pressure on Brady on 3rd downs was non existent. We had nothing. It was hard to watch 3rd downs.
 

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diehard2231;1709311 said:
good post wayne,I didn't expect to win today,however I knew Welker would kill us,plus Newman is not the same Newman,and Reeves Just dont cut it. I believe we are close but as stated we still need a few more pieces to contend for a championship

Kinda depends on what you mean by "contend for a championship".

We have enough to beat any team in the NFC, so making it to the superbowl is contending for a championship in my book.

Now beating who we have to face there is a whole nother story.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1709227 said:
Nice post Wayne.

I agree with much of it.

The fact is that we're not at New England's level-- yet.

Give us back our injured guys and maybe add a couple more quality draft picks come next April and we could be very close.

I agree also--throw we are coming back froma Mon night road game and we are still young --I am not that unhappy---we should be a force to be reckoned with this year and the next few years
 

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Deep_Freeze;1709332 said:
Kinda depends on what you mean by "contend for a championship".

We have enough to beat any team in the NFC, so making it to the superbowl is contending for a championship in my book.

Now beating who we have to face there is a whole nother story.
we should never refer to anything but the Superbowl;)
 

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MichaelWinicki;1709227 said:
Nice post Wayne.

I agree with much of it.

The fact is that we're not at New England's level-- yet.

Give us back our injured guys and maybe add a couple more quality draft picks come next April and we could be very close.
It seems like we say this every year.
 

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diehard2231;1709346 said:
we should never refer to anything but the Superbowl;)

Cool. :shades:

But I would love to make it to the big dance with at least that opportunity to win it. You can't contend if you don't make it to the big dance.
 

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A healthy Newman and a Healthy Henry would make a lot of difference. But we got very little pressure on Brady in the second half- and that really hurt.
we have the personnel NOW to win; we just need them healthy. Get our starting CBs back and Terry Glenn back and let us have another game; adding tank will help as well.
 

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windward;1709355 said:
and we've been getting closer every year
Our pass rush is inconsistant and our pass defense is mediocre. It's been like that for how long?
 

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We are 5-1 and played the best team in Football tough for 3 1/2 quarters, I can't believe people aren't happy that we are contenders for the first time in 10 years. We finally have a QB and right now are clearly the best team in the NFC, relax people.
 
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