New higher cap gives new options

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Three simple and planned restructures. This has been explained many times

Three? Romo, Carr, and Lee?

Unless the team wants to be players in free agency, I'd avoid restructuring Carr. Given that it might be prudent to release him next year.
 

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With Dallas cap space now projected to be a 134 million I went to overthecap.com team calculator. I wanted to get us under the cap without any more restructuring and I did.

By making Ware and Miles a June 1st cap cut and by releasing Bernadeau, Costa and Parnell we are under the cap by 2.3 million. That about what we will need to sign our draft picks.

Now if you want to be players in free agency then we can start restructuring but I think that would be a big mistake.

I am shocked I am asking this but why would you cut Bernadeau? He played well lest year. He sucked in 2012 but really improved. Waters may have helped him. I don't see a reason to cut him and create another hole at this point.
 

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there are lots of ways to go to get where we need. but they all start with ware. what we do with him is going to not only effect the cap but the draft as well. my hope is we can cut his base salary and keep him atleast another year but thats going to come down to him being able to accept that cut. in the end we will get there but the raod may not be the one some want. i do feel if ware refuses a pay cut then he will be cut and thats a painful move. but one that has to be done
 

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Three? Romo, Carr, and Lee?

Unless the team wants to be players in free agency, I'd avoid restructuring Carr. Given that it might be prudent to release him next year.

i don't think they want to restructure carr even though that is an option. right now we can get out of his deal in 2 years, if we restructure thats gonna be hard to do
 

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The idea of pushing Ware off the roster is because he is no longer worth what he is earning as a percentage of our salary cap. Anything he has done in the past has no bearing on what he will do next year. And there is no reason to believe that given an additional year of age that he will miraculously return to form. It's time to move on from Ware.

But he isn't going to get what he is scheduled to make and everyone knows it, including Ware who said it himself the day after the season ended. If he plays hardball and demands his full salary, he will get cut. But if he does the Cowboys take a 8MM dead money hit and still have to replace him on the roster. Given the fact he looked great in preseason last year and had injuries during the season, both sides have a strong incentive to knock 5 - 7MM off his 2014 salary similar to the restructure they did with Doug Free.
 

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But he isn't going to get what he is scheduled to make and everyone knows it, including Ware who said it himself the day after the season ended. If he plays hardball and demands his full salary, he will get cut. But if he does the Cowboys take a 8MM dead money hit and still have to replace him on the roster. Given the fact he looked great in preseason last year and had injuries during the season, both sides have a strong incentive to knock 5 - 7MM off his 2014 salary similar to the restructure they did with Doug Free.


The situations aren't the same.

Doug Free's new contract left him with two years, we have Ware for a bit longer than that. Free took a pay cut for both years. By cutting Ware we actually save money this year and next year. He can look great again this year, and he is likely to get injured again this year. When was the last year ware wasn't dealing with injuries as an excuse for his limited play? I think you have to go back to 2009 for that.
 

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When was the last year ware wasn't dealing with injuries as an excuse for his limited play? I think you have to go back to 2009 for that.

Ummmm, I'm afraid I disagree since Ware had 15.5 sacks in 2010, 19.5 in 2011 and 11.5 sacks in 2012. If that's "limited play", I'd love to have11 defensive starters giving us limited play.

Ware may be on the decline, he may not. But if you want to pay 8.5 Million dollars (and the salary of his replacement) to get rid of him when you could could keep him on the roster for roughly the same amount.....I disagree with that as well.
 

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Three? Romo, Carr, and Lee?

Unless the team wants to be players in free agency, I'd avoid restructuring Carr. Given that it might be prudent to release him next year.

I restructure everyone and create as much room as possible since you can rollover any excess. It is better to have space and not need it, than to need it and not have it. If a player is going to play for the team in 2014, there is no harm in restructuring them. I would rather redo everyone and keep guys like Durant, Parnell maybe even Austin until we know they have been replaced.

What if Free Agency goes like last year and certain positions are way undervalued like DEs. Dallas can swoop in and get some bargains. If they fail to act because they don't want to restructure a contract or three, that defeats everything they have doing since before the lockout.
 

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Ummmm, I'm afraid I disagree since Ware had 15.5 sacks in 2010, 19.5 in 2011 and 11.5 sacks in 2012. If that's "limited play", I'd love to have11 defensive starters giving us limited play.

Ware may be on the decline, he may not. But if you want to pay 8.5 Million dollars (and the salary of his replacement) to get rid of him when you could could keep him on the roster for roughly the same amount.....I disagree with that as well.

I'm not saying he hasn't produced since 2009, but he has been dealing with injuries since after that season. Injuries which have limited his role on the defense, have him coming off the field on important plays, drives, and quarters, and limited the effect he has on games.

Sacks don't simply tell the whole story.
 

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Ummmm, I'm afraid I disagree since Ware had 15.5 sacks in 2010, 19.5 in 2011 and 11.5 sacks in 2012. If that's "limited play", I'd love to have11 defensive starters giving us limited play.

Ware may be on the decline, he may not. But if you want to pay 8.5 Million dollars (and the salary of his replacement) to get rid of him when you could could keep him on the roster for roughly the same amount.....I disagree with that as well.

The dead money is already done. It shouldn't affect the decision. That money does not go away if they keep him.
 

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The dead money is already done. It shouldn't affect the decision. That money does not go away if they keep him.

I never said it did. I said you are getting no value for that money if you cut Ware and you have to spend money to pay his replacement.
 

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With Dallas cap space now projected to be a 134 million I went to overthecap.com team calculator. I wanted to get us under the cap without any more restructuring and I did.

By making Ware and Miles a June 1st cap cut and by releasing Bernadeau, Costa and Parnell we are under the cap by 2.3 million. That about what we will need to sign our draft picks.

Now if you want to be players in free agency then we can start restructuring but I think that would be a big mistake.

Why would they not use the options that they specifically put into their contracts to free up money? They;ve already said they do these contracts knowing 2 or 3 rs into the contract they will be over the cap and use them options they purposely put into the deal.

Restructuring Romo, Scandrick, Lee, witten does nothing to say mistake. The perception that this team mismanages itself with these restructures is false. Im betting more teams would do the same if their owners could afford it. You think there are alot of owners in the nfl that can pay 20 mil in upfront money every yr? That speaks to how successful a business side Jerry runs. Now business side doesnt equal football success. And its clear there have been bad choices and Jerry has always taken blame for them.

But this is how he will continue to run the team. Dallas just doesnt normally ever let go of its stars. Thats the way its always been. Danny White might be one of the most hated Cowboy players because of failure in the history of the team, but they never let him go. Even when these players are brought in thru FA they usually spend the rest of their careers in Dallas. And im talking about stars. haley, glover are prime examples of stars.

Why would Dallas want to release Mack? The guy was 500% improvement from the previous yr. He was so sound last yr that they had him help Free on his gap along with cover his responsibility. And if Dallas does draft a new starter, you have a guy who can backup LG and RG and even C. You dont cut guys like that. You only weaken your OL.
 

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I never said it did. I said you are getting no value for that money if you cut Ware and you have to spend money to pay his replacement.

The money you can spend on his replacement is less significant than the cost of keeping him and you're likely to get more production out of it.... sounds like a no brainer to me.
 

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Three? Romo, Carr, and Lee?

Unless the team wants to be players in free agency, I'd avoid restructuring Carr. Given that it might be prudent to release him next year.

Scandrick is the one with the guaranteed 2014 salary
 

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Dallas is soft, Ware will go on to produce better with another club, so wishing him the best in another setting.

Unfortunately the edge Dallas needs has been dulled to the hilt from cutting the Bull instead of sharped to the tee from cutting the Mustard.

Sounds like someone is cutting the cheese but Jerral has been on the throne for too long, something else is going on in there besides playing with the handle to pass time. There isn't enough corn cobs in Arkansas to wipe this dirt Joe.
 
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