New Rule for Celebrating

WV Cowboy;1147254 said:
Stop the presses, it must be Friday the 13th or something, Doomsday101 and I agreed.:D

Other than the game, .. have a good weekend Dooms ?

I think we may agree on more than you relize. As for the weekend it was going pretty good until about 3:15 cent. time and then it fell apart. :laugh2:
 
Negadting a TD for a celebrationg?

YOu have a better chance having a college football playoffs than that ever happening.

People take this game waaaay too seriously. Players want to have fun when they score a TD. It's a game!!!
 
I can't for the life of me see why a TD celebration is a penalty anyway. Who cares,, its a game,, its about having fun.. if it hurts the feelings of the other team.. here's a thought.. don't let them score. Its a stupid rule that don't hurt anyone at all.
 
I disagree with this completely. The "Lambeau Leap" began as a spontaneous thing, and though it developed into a tradition, it was never the pre-planned theatrical production that TO and Chad Johnson and Steve Smith developed, and it is much closer to the kind of quick, get it over and done show of emotion after a TD that the NFL allows (and should allow).

No difference... celebrating in the NFL IN GENERAL began as something spontaneous and evolved into what it is now... and it is not even close to true these 3 receivers have developed it that much... Ernest Givens "Electric Shake" was being done in the mid-80s and that shake still is one of the most innovative dances the NFL has done...

this has been going on for over 20 years.... "Ikky Shuffle"...
 
royhitshard;1147246 said:
What I don't understand is how it is hilarious when Chad Johnson does it, but it is destroying the team when TO does it. (according to the media)

Personally, I do not like the celebrations and prefer they had the ball to the ref.
Speaking of Chad Johnson last night he called his team out saying he wasn't being used right. Hmm don't hear the talking heads in the media talking about it. All I want is people to be consistent. If you bash TO fine,but bash others who are doing the same,or even worst as well.
 
Juke99;1147260 said:
He's just setting you up for the kill shot. :D

Naw I just don't tolerate non-sense by high priced players as much as others do. I respect TO athletic ability but I think he has a 10 cent brain to go along with the 10 mill dollar talent. While me and WV disagree on some issue I actually think highly of him as a poster.
 
everyone at the bar thought it was hilarious. Maybe it's just your taste vs. my taste type thing.

I think its funny, and brings the FUN element to the game.

Now players celebrating on a kickoff tackle like Wash player did 2 or 3 times needs to go.. NYG shooting jump shots 2 times a series or so needs to go.

A player scoring and celebrating is fine in my book however.

just my thought
 
i dont mind the goofy td celebrations at all. but when a player scores and gets in another players face or spikes the ball in their direction or (before the helmet rule) takes the helmet off and talks smack, that should be penalized, whenever it is done in a manner that is an act of agression it should be taunting penalty, but other than that, let them play and celebrate. its fun.

the whole reason that penalties for excessive celebration started is to prevent fights and cheap shots or late hits cause a player got taunted.
 
Chad Johnson has not trash talked his QB or OCs. Thats the bottom line.

As far as the celebration penalties, I blame the Dallas Cowboys for the way it is being called now, and how it became a bad thing to celebrate.
 
crazytown41;1147266 said:
Negadting a TD for a celebrationg?

YOu have a better chance having a college football playoffs than that ever happening.

People take this game waaaay too seriously. Players want to have fun when they score a TD. It's a game!!!

It is a game in High School and College as well and the players manage to play the game without the stunts. In the NFL you get paid so you can afford to go out and have fun and enjoy a life style others dream about. If the NFL wants to end this endzone stunts altogether they can very easily do it
 
Doomsday101;1147277 said:
Naw I just don't tolerate non-sense by high priced players as much as others do. I respect TO athletic ability but I think he has a 10 cent brain to go along with the 10 mill dollar talent. While me and WV disagree on some issue I actually think highly of him as a poster.

Well you and I agree about "the player"

:)

Oh and on "the poster" too.
 
Chad Johnson has not trash talked his QB or OCs. Thats the bottom line.

As far as the celebration penalties, I blame the Dallas Cowboys for the way it is being called now, and how it became a bad thing to celebrate.

Cha Johnson just called out his coaches, saying he is not being used right... Rudy Johnson went off last week about how they are not using him right... An Arizon defenseive lineman just went off this week about how the locker room is divided, and people are playing like it's high school and not business.. he was directly question HALF the attitude of the players... Tiki Barber a couple of years ago went off on his own coach, as well as Strahan... San Diego's coach was criticized by his players for holding the offense back earlier in the year, to the extent that he went public to defend himself...
 
The NFL wanst to get a handle on some things but if it takes over the spontaneity of the game too much no one will watch, it is an entertainment business after all.

If the NFL made a TD null and void because a player celebrated, only the ultimate die hard football fans would still watch. The NFL is trying to generate more intrest from the youth, not squash it.
 
khiladi;1147299 said:
Cha Johnson just called out his coaches, saying he is not being used right... Rudy Johnson went off last week about how they are not using him right... An Arizon defenseive lineman just went off this week about how the locker room is divided, and people are playing like it's high school and not business.. he was directly question HALF the attitude of the players... Tiki Barber a couple of years ago went off on his own coach, as well as Strahan...

Thats calling out his coaches ? Thats telling them not to talk to him anymore ? Thats saying his QB is gay ? Thats saying his QB is the one that got tired ? Thats his making fun of himself falling asleep in a meeting ?

Chad Johnson and TO are the ones we're talking about. Not Tiki, Strahan, Rudi, etc.
 
Hoov;1147311 said:
The NFL wanst to get a handle on some things but if it takes over the spontaneity of the game too much no one will watch, it is an entertainment business after all.

If the NFL made a TD null and void because a player celebrated, only the ultimate die hard football fans would still watch. The NFL is trying to generate more intrest from the youth, not squash it.

People will watch because they love football. I really do not know anyone who watches football every week just to see dancing in the endzone. The game is what most people love. College pulls big time ratings yet there is no endzone celebrations allowed, NFL allows it but they are trying to get some control over it.
 
Thats calling out his coaches ? Thats telling them not to talk to him anymore ? Thats saying his QB is gay ? Thats saying his QB is the one that got tired ? Thats his making fun of himself falling asleep in a meeting ?

Yeah, that is calling out coaches, especially when that coach goes public to defend himself... that's calling out players when you say that they are playing like they played in high school, i.e. for their girlfriends..


Chad Johnson and TO are the ones we're talking about. Not Tiki, Strahan, Rudi, etc.

Actually, it's TO people are talking about.. To quote:

Chad Johnson has not trash talked his QB or OCs. Thats the bottom line.

Chad has just called out his coaches... Rudi has just called out his coaches.. They all celebrate in the end-zone... I don't hear anybody complaining, yet they do the same things TO is accused of doing...

Last time I checked since TO has been in Dallas, he hasn't called his quarterback gay...
 
Doomsday101;1147289 said:
It is a game in High School and College as well and the players manage to play the game without the stunts. In the NFL you get paid so you can afford to go out and have fun and enjoy a life style others dream about. If the NFL wants to end this endzone stunts altogether they can very easily do it
Bottomeline is that the NFL would NEVER have such a rule. Negating a TD cause you celebrated?? Might as well cancel out HR's if you watch it too long. Or negate 2 points if you dunk too hard.

It's not gonna happen. This isn't pee-wee football. And you really think the players union would agree on that??:laugh2:
 
crazytown41;1147345 said:
Bottomeline is that the NFL would NEVER have such a rule. Negating a TD cause you celebrated?? Might as well cancel out HR's if you watch it too long. Or negate 2 points if you dunk too hard.

It's not gonna happen. This isn't pee-wee football. And you really think the players union would agree on that??:laugh2:

I agree that the league will not go that far as to negating the TD however they will get in under control and as coaches see players killing them with 15 yarders many coaches will put their foot down. Lastly your right this is not pee-wee football so what do some feel the need to act like it is pee-wee football? It is the game that makes this league great it always has and always will. Players come and go the game survives because people love the game.
 
SkinsandTerps;1147321 said:
Thats calling out his coaches ? Thats telling them not to talk to him anymore ? Thats saying his QB is gay ? Thats saying his QB is the one that got tired ? Thats his making fun of himself falling asleep in a meeting ?

Chad Johnson and TO are the ones we're talking about. Not Tiki, Strahan, Rudi, etc.
So what my point is be consistent. Bring another point that all these rule changes are because Cowboys are doing it,which speaks to me as being bias. From taking off your helmet to Horse Collar. Fine is you want to blast TO just be consistent with others as well.
 
Hoov;1147311 said:
The NFL wanst to get a handle on some things but if it takes over the spontaneity of the game too much no one will watch, it is an entertainment business after all.
It's not an entertainment business, .. it is football. Yes, football is entertaining, but nobody watches just to see the celebrations.

If the NFL made a TD null and void because a player celebrated, only the ultimate die hard football fans would still watch. The NFL is trying to generate more intrest from the youth, not squash it.

My point was if the NFL wanted to stop it, that would make players stop.

I don't think it would ever have to be enforced.

Let them celebrate on the sidelines.

Even if you stop the celebrations, people will still watch.
 

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