Newest 2009 Mock

[KingintheNorth]

I'm going with us getting the following Compensatory Picks:
5th for Julius Jones
6th for Jacques Reeves
7th for Nate Jones

2nd (Dallas) - Gerald McRath ILB 6-3/225 Southern Miss
3rd (Cleveland) - B.J. Raji NT 6-1/325 Boston College
3rd (*)- Javier Arenas CB 5-9/198 Alabama
*Traded both 4th round picks to move into the 3rd round.
5th (Dallas) - Chase Holbrook QB 6-5/245 New Mexico State
5th (Tennesee) - Paul Fanaika G 6-6/336 Arizona State
5th (compensatory) - Michael Bennett OLB 6-4/262 Texas A&M
6th (Miami) - Garrett Reynolds T 6-7/310 North Carolina
6th (compensatory) - Brandon Swain OLB 6-3/256 West Texa A&M
7th (Detroit) - Dallas Reynolds C 6-5/324 BYU
7th (Dallas) - David Buehler K 6-2/225 USC
7th (compensatory) - Willie Williams LB 6-3/228 Union (Ky)

McRath will come in and replace Kevin Burnett as a reserve inside linebacker but more importantly, learn from Zach Thomas so he can replace him in a year or two. Raji gives them a true 3-4 nose tackle and allows Jay Ratliff to occasionally slide outside to end. Arenas is small (5'9") but will contribute as a nickelback and kick retuner. He joins Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick to give the Cowboys sme of the best cornerback depth around. Holbrook becomes the "quarterback of the future" in Dallas and should surpass Brooks Bollinger on the depth chart soon. Fanaika, Garrett Reynolds, and Dallas Reynolds should challenge Cory Proctor, Joe Berger, and Pat McQusitan for reserve lineman jobs. Bennett, the older brother of Martellus, and Swain are college defensive ends that Dallas will try to convert to 3-4 pass-rushing outside linebackers and help fill the void left by deprted veteran Greg Ellis. Buehler will not challenge Folk, although he was a pretty good kicker. He was drafted for his ability (and Folk's inability) to drive kickoffs into the endzone. At 6'2", 225 lbs and a former junior college linebacker, he isn't afraid to run down field and make tackles. Williams is a low risk in the 7th round but the former five-star recruit has seen his share of legal troubles. He has played or been enrolled at five colleges but has stayed out of trouble and has shown flashes of his high school potential.

2009 2-Deep
LT Flozell Adams/Doug Free
LG Kyle Kosier/ Montrae Holland
C Andre Gurode/Dallas Reynolds
RG Leonard Davis/Paul Fanaika
RT Marc Colombo/Garrett Reynolds
TE Jason Witten/Martellus Bennett
WR Roy Williams/Miles Austin
QB Tony Romo/Brooks Bollinger
RB Marion Barber/Felix Jones
FB Deon Anderson ^Tashard Choice

LDE Marcus Spears/Jason Hatcher
NT Jay Ratliff/BJ Raji
RDE Chris Canty/Stephen Bowen
LOLB Anthony Spencer/Michael Bennett
LILB Bradie James/Carlos Polk
RILB Zach Thomas/Gerald McRath
ROLB DeMarcus Ware/Brandon Swain
LCB Terrence Newman/Orlando Scandrick
SS Ken Hamlin/Keith Davis
FS Anthony Henry/Pat Watkins
RCB Adam Jones/Mike Jenkins

We cut Greg Ellis and Roy Williams for cap reasons and let Kevin Burnett and Tank Johnson walk. Sam Hurd and Bobbie Carpenter are traded for 2010 draft picks. Cap room is used to re-sign Canty and Ware,

So I basically went for improving our o-line depth, linebacking depth, and trying to address some special teams needs. I also added a NT and a QB to groom. Have at it.

 

[the playmaker]

I'm going with us getting the following Compensatory Picks:
5th for Julius Jones
6th for Jacques Reeves
7th for Nate Jones

2nd (Dallas) - Gerald McRath ILB 6-3/225 Southern Miss
3rd (Cleveland) - B.J. Raji NT 6-1/325 Boston College
3rd (*)- Javier Arenas CB 5-9/198 Alabama
*Traded both 4th round picks to move into the 3rd round.
5th (Dallas) - Chase Holbrook QB 6-5/245 New Mexico State
5th (Tennesee) - Paul Fanaika G 6-6/336 Arizona State
5th (compensatory) - Michael Bennett OLB 6-4/262 Texas A&M
6th (Miami) - Garrett Reynolds T 6-7/310 North Carolina
6th (compensatory) - Brandon Swain OLB 6-3/256 West Texa A&M
7th (Detroit) - Dallas Reynolds C 6-5/324 BYU
7th (Dallas) - David Buehler K 6-2/225 USC
7th (compensatory) - Willie Williams LB 6-3/228 Union (Ky)

McRath will come in and replace Kevin Burnett as a reserve inside linebacker but more importantly, learn from Zach Thomas so he can replace him in a year or two. Raji gives them a true 3-4 nose tackle and allows Jay Ratliff to occasionally slide outside to end. Arenas is small (5'9") but will contribute as a nickelback and kick retuner. He joins Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick to give the Cowboys sme of the best cornerback depth around. Holbrook becomes the "quarterback of the future" in Dallas and should surpass Brooks Bollinger on the depth chart soon. Fanaika, Garrett Reynolds, and Dallas Reynolds should challenge Cory Proctor, Joe Berger, and Pat McQusitan for reserve lineman jobs. Bennett, the older brother of Martellus, and Swain are college defensive ends that Dallas will try to convert to 3-4 pass-rushing outside linebackers and help fill the void left by deprted veteran Greg Ellis. Buehler will not challenge Folk, although he was a pretty good kicker. He was drafted for his ability (and Folk's inability) to drive kickoffs into the endzone. At 6'2", 225 lbs and a former junior college linebacker, he isn't afraid to run down field and make tackles. Williams is a low risk in the 7th round but the former five-star recruit has seen his share of legal troubles. He has played or been enrolled at five colleges but has stayed out of trouble and has shown flashes of his high school potential.

2009 2-Deep
LT Flozell Adams/Doug Free
LG Kyle Kosier/ Montrae Holland
C Andre Gurode/Dallas Reynolds
RG Leonard Davis/Paul Fanaika
RT Marc Colombo/Garrett Reynolds
TE Jason Witten/Martellus Bennett
WR Roy Williams/Miles Austin
QB Tony Romo/Brooks Bollinger
RB Marion Barber/Felix Jones
FB Deon Anderson ^Tashard Choice

LDE Marcus Spears/Jason Hatcher
NT Jay Ratliff/BJ Raji
RDE Chris Canty/Stephen Bowen
LOLB Anthony Spencer/Michael Bennett
LILB Bradie James/Carlos Polk
RILB Zach Thomas/Gerald McRath
ROLB DeMarcus Ware/Brandon Swain
LCB Terrence Newman/Orlando Scandrick
SS Ken Hamlin/Keith Davis
FS Anthony Henry/Pat Watkins
RCB Adam Jones/Mike Jenkins

We cut Greg Ellis and Roy Williams for cap reasons and let Kevin Burnett and Tank Johnson walk. Sam Hurd and Bobbie Carpenter are traded for 2010 draft picks. Cap room is used to re-sign Canty and Ware,

So I basically went for improving our o-line depth, linebacking depth, and trying to address some special teams needs. I also added a NT and a QB to groom. Have at it.

we need a true safty!!!!! maybe 2...Davis, Watkins and Henry will NOT be our FS/SS next season:bang2:

 

[KingintheNorth]

I wouldn't mind us adding a true ballhawking FS but I'd like to see what Henry can do back there. He has the size, obviously has coverage skills, and doesn't shy away from contact. Guys like Rod Woodson, Corey Chavous, Dwight Smith, and Antrell Rolle have made the change and have had success.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I don't like this draft.....especially the K part.

 

[ThatsmyQB]

You want to use out top pick on a L.B. who's WAY WAY WAY TOO SMALL to play in the 3-4????

Then you want to trade TWO 4th rounders to move up in the 3rd and draft a C.B.????
Even WITHOUT Henry next year we'd have Newman and Pacman starting at C.B., and have Jenkins as our 3rd C.B. and Scrandrick as a 4th C.B., so WHY ON EARTH would we trade away TWO 4th round picks to draft a guy who is gonna be 5th on the C.B. depth chart?

Also Raji is a mide to late 1st rounder on most people's boards, he will not be there in round 3.

Horrible draft all around and EVERYONE in our front office would get fired if this was their draft.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

You want to use out top pick on a L.B. who's WAY WAY WAY TOO SMALL to play in the 3-4????

Then you want to trade TWO 4th rounders to move up in the 3rd and draft a C.B.????
Even WITHOUT Henry next year we'd have Newman and Pacman starting at C.B., and have Jenkins as our 3rd C.B. and Scrandrick as a 4th C.B., so WHY ON EARTH would we trade away TWO 4th round picks to draft a guy who is gonna be 5th on the C.B. depth chart?

Also Raji is a mide to late 1st rounder on most people's boards, he will not be there in round 3.

Horrible draft all around and EVERYONE in our front office would get fired if this was their draft.

link me to where Raji is projecting in the first round.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I like this draft

except for you committ 2 of my cardinal sins for mock drafts

you include underclassmen and you trade *tisk* *tisk*

 

[ThatsmyQB]

link me to where Raji is projecting in the first round.

NFL Draftcountdown has him 13th overall.

]Correction they have him 11th overall.

GBN Great Blue North has him ranked 38th overall.

 

[KingintheNorth]

You want to use out top pick on a L.B. who's WAY WAY WAY TOO SMALL to play in the 3-4????

Then you want to trade TWO 4th rounders to move up in the 3rd and draft a C.B.????
Even WITHOUT Henry next year we'd have Newman and Pacman starting at C.B., and have Jenkins as our 3rd C.B. and Scrandrick as a 4th C.B., so WHY ON EARTH would we trade away TWO 4th round picks to draft a guy who is gonna be 5th on the C.B. depth chart?

Also Raji is a mide to late 1st rounder on most people's boards, he will not be there in round 3.

Horrible draft all around and EVERYONE in our front office would get fired if this was their draft.

McRath is like 20, he will get bigger. The guy's an athletic freak and a hitter. My reasoning for trading up is 1) we have a talent-full, veteran roster. Not too many rookies will make the team. 2) There's always an underclassmen or two who start slipping in the draft. 3) Henry would be a free safety, Pacman is a dirty stare away from never playing football again, Newman is always injured. So I went for a talented cornerback who may slip because he's 5'9".

I've seen Raji in the 1st of 1 mock draft, which by the way, most are ran by people no more qualified than you or I. Mostly I see him anywhere from 2nd to 4th round. It's too early to tell. Last year this time, Calais Campbell from Miami was a top 5 pick in most mocks. He ended up going 50th overall.

If our front office didn't get fired for the Shante Carver, Quincy Carter, or Dwayne Goodrich drafts then I think I'm safe. Quit being so dramatic.

 

[KingintheNorth]

I like this draft

except for you committ 2 of my cardinal sins for mock drafts

you include underclassmen and you trade *tisk* *tisk*

Expect a lot of underclassmen this year. Agents have them all paranoid that a "rookie cap" is coming in the next collective bargaining agreement.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Expect a lot of underclassmen this year. Agents have them all paranoid that a "rookie cap" is coming in the next collective bargaining agreement.

that's a good point...

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Expect a lot of underclassmen this year. Agents have them all paranoid that a "rookie cap" is coming in the next collective bargaining agreement.

the "rookie cap" will only effect the top 5 to 10 picks, so only guys who have a shot, even if it's slim, to go in the top 5ish, will feel the pressure to come out now.

 

[KingintheNorth]

where have u seen that? so the 10th guy selected will be capped but the 11th selection can get whatever contract he wants OR the team wants to pay him? I'd feel sorry for the team with the 10th selection every year. No player or agent would talk to them.

Everything I've read would put a cap on all draft choices, with the highest picks getting the most money and then gradually working down, similar to the NBA draft.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

NFL Draftcountdown has him 13th overall.

]Correction they have him 11th overall.

GBN Great Blue North has him ranked 38th overall.

There's 32 teams in the NFL.

Don't you list 3 sites as being really good? And your top sites regrading the draft? You should tell us what nfldraftscout and what walterfootball have him going....Great blue north....nice....never heard you mention that website before.

 

[ThatsmyQB]

McRath is like 20, he will get bigger. The guy's an athletic freak and a hitter. My reasoning for trading up is 1) we have a talent-full, veteran roster. Not too many rookies will make the team. 2) There's always an underclassmen or two who start slipping in the draft. 3) Henry would be a free safety, Pacman is a dirty stare away from never playing football again, Newman is always injured. So I went for a talented cornerback who may slip because he's 5'9".

Why does everyone says Newmna is ALWAYS INJURED???
This year he's been banged up but his whole career he missed like one game.
Even with Henry gone or moved to safety, and even if Pacman gets thrown out of the league, we'd have our 2 starters in Newman Jenkins with Scandrick
as the nickle, and that's IF Pacman gets thrown out of the league, but AT BEST even with Pacman gone he'd be our 4th corner and I don't want to trade away TWO 4th round picks for a guy who AT BEST CASE SCENARIO is our 4th corner.

I've seen Raji in the 1st of 1 mock draft, which by the way, most are ran by people no more qualified than you or I. Mostly I see him anywhere from 2nd to 4th round. It's too early to tell. Last year this time, Calais Campbell from Miami was a top 5 pick in most mocks. He ended up going 50th overall.

If our front office didn't get fired for the Shante Carver, Quincy Carter, or Dwayne Goodrich drafts then I think I'm safe. Quit being so dramatic

Actually they did get fired, but they at least drafted for NEED at a starting position, why on earth would we use our TOP PICK on a guy who's GUARANTEED to be a BACKUP unless there's an injury??
I don't mind using a 4th rounder on a good backup O-lineman who could start one day, but our top pick???

 

[ThatsmyQB]

Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatsmyQB
NFL Draftcountdown has him 13th overall.

]Correction they have him 11th overall.

GBN Great Blue North has him ranked 38th overall.

There's 32 teams in the NFL.

I said at least ONE SITE has him as a 1st rounder, and 11th overall is a 1st rounder.
I mentioned GBN had him 38th to give another site that has him rated early is all, that was not meant to mean GBN had him as a 1st rounder, more so to just point out how high he is ranked on some boards and that I feel there's no way he's gonna be available in round 3.

Don't you list 3 sites as being really good? And your top sites regrading the draft? You should tell us what nfldraftscout and what walterfootball have him going....Great blue north....nice....never heard you mention that website before.

Um, I DID tell you waht NFL draftscout had him listed, 11th overall.

GBN has him 38th, and walter doesn't list exact number, just says round 2.

So based on 3 very good sites, one that has him ranked round 2, one has him 38th overall and one has him in the top 15, #11 overall to be exact, that is how I come to the conclusion at this point in the year to say he will not be there with our 3rd round pick.
Coudl he be, sure, anything is possible, but based off this data, I can only assume at this point that he will not be there in round 3 when we pick.

All I'm saying is if you wanna do a mock draft, do some research and be a little realistic, Michael Crabtree is a top 10 pick on basically every board, can he slip to round 2, sure anything's possible, NOT LIKELY but possible, but based off everyone's projection and I was making a mock draft, I wouldn't put him down as our 2nd round pick, and same thing with Raji, enough people on good sites mostly have him rated as a mid 1st to mid 2nd rounder at worst, so to put him as a 3rd rounder in a mock to me is not being realistic is all, could he fall, sure, but you have to make a mock on where most people project him IMO, otherwise it's just wishfull thinking and I can make a mock where I have us trading up to early 2nd round cause Micheal Crabtree fell to round 2, could he? sure, will he? Very very highly unlikely and wouldn't be an accurate mock IMO.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I said at least ONE SITE has him as a 1st rounder, and 11th overall is a 1st rounder.
I mentioned GBN had him 38th to give another site that has him rated early is all, that was not meant to mean GBN had him as a 1st rounder, more so to just point out how high he is ranked on some boards and that I feel there's no way he's gonna be available in round 3.





Um, I DID tell you waht NFL draftscout had him listed, 11th overall.

GBN has him 38th, and walter doesn't list exact number, just says round 2.

So based on 3 very good sites, one that has him ranked round 2, one has him 38th overall and one has him in the top 15, #11 overall to be exact, that is how I come to the conclusion at this point in the year to say he will not be there with our 3rd round pick.
Coudl he be, sure, anything is possible, but based off this data, I can only assume at this point that he will not be there in round 3 when we pick.

All I'm saying is if you wanna do a mock draft, do some research and be a little realistic, Michael Crabtree is a top 10 pick on basically every board, can he slip to round 2, sure anything's possible, NOT LIKELY but possible, but based off everyone's projection and I was making a mock draft, I wouldn't put him down as our 2nd round pick, and same thing with Raji, enough people on good sites mostly have him rated as a mid 1st to mid 2nd rounder at worst, so to put him as a 3rd rounder in a mock to me is not being realistic is all, could he fall, sure, but you have to make a mock on where most people project him IMO, otherwise it's just wishfull thinking and I can make a mock where I have us trading up to early 2nd round cause Micheal Crabtree fell to round 2, could he? sure, will he? Very very highly unlikely and wouldn't be an accurate mock IMO.

you getting confused between nfldraftscout and nfldraftcoutdown. FYI they don't have him ranked 11th overall they have him ranked 11 out of the top 32 seniors....

http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Rankings.php

Their round 1 mock.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-B.php

nice try though.

 

[KingintheNorth]

There's a tad bit of a difference between a no-doubt-about-it talent like Michael Crabtree somehow slipping and a NT with a questionable past slipping.

I actually look at all of the mocks ( I know, I need a life) and at this time, I feel it is not at all unrealistic that Raji could go anywhere from late 1st to early 3rd. That can change as the draft gets closer. His performance in the Senior Bowl, Combine, and Boston College's Pro Day will change everyone's projection.

I wouldn't put someone in the 3rd just because of wishful thinking. I'm going with the information that's out there. I also expect a ton of underclassmen to declare so that is going to possibly push guys like Raji, Herman Johnson, Phil Loadhalt, etc. down later in the draft. It's all opinion right now. Stop saying this won't happen or that won't happen. No one in the world had DeMarcus Ware going as high in mocks as he went this time of year his senior season. Players' stock are going to go up and down.

 

[ThatsmyQB]

you getting confused between nfldraftscout and nfldraftcoutdown. FYI they don't have him ranked 11th overall they have him ranked 11 out of the top 32 seniors....

http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Rankings.php

Their round 1 mock.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-B.php

nice try though.

Nice try though???
HUH???
I didn't get draftscout confused with draftocuntdown AT ALL, what are you talkin about?
My bad, he's ranked 11th overall for seniors, so that must mean I was wrong about him not being a 3rd round prospect!

 

[ThatsmyQB]

Stop saying this won't happen or that won't happen. No one in the world had DeMarcus Ware going as high in mocks as he went this time of year his senior season. Players' stock are going to go up and down.

UM, I never said players stocks couldn't go up and down in fact that's EXACTLY what I DID SAY is that players can go up and down.
But for right now in making a mock I feel selecting Raji in round 3 is a stretch is all.