Newman stinks!!!

Have you noticed that on 3rd and long they almost always throw at Newman because they know he will sit on the short route and they can hook up down field? The guy is either lazy or poorly conditioned and it's time for him to go, he's been doing this for years.
 
Muhast;3718581 said:
Our safeties havn't helped all season. I agree. It's unfair to pinpoint just the CB's.

On the TD Jenkins gave up right after the Newman bomb, Sensi steps up and gives the WR an easy catch. Jenkins was in pretty good position but thats a tough play to stop when the safety gives the middle of the end zone up for no reason.
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IMO Jenkins had man coverage on that play.

Newman sucks at man coverage. And now Jenkins sucks at man coverage too.

When your CBs can't play man coverage at all, it ain't on the safeties.

Don't get em wrong. The safeties have sucked this year. But, Jenkins, Newman, and Scandrick have been downright atrocious in both zone and man-to-man coverage. And I forgot to mention they CBs can't tackle either.
 
Newman gave up a huge play late in the game after Roy Williams gave them a free shot today. However, don't let the exaggerated agenda driven people fool you about the type of player Newman has been throughout his career.

"Newman is what you'd consider a shut-down corner," one scout said. "Talented player. Long arms. Some say he's still a top five (cornerback). Not real big and physical, but he will go in and cut a guy down."

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/70062137.html 2009 NOV

If Roy Williams puts two hands on the football while the ball is in his gut and gets low or down, Dallas is in prime position for the final kill shot in that game. The Saints defense was tiring, and Dallas' offense was starting to score TDs. Dallas' defense had held them to 23 points.

Finally, Dallas most likely isn't even in man coverage if Williams doesn't fumble the game away. They are probably in cover 2, and Brees isn't going to have much time left to over come even a 7 point deficit. Brees would have been forced to move the ball slowly down the field.

Dallas lost points and clock and the game.

The defense shouldn't have even been on the field.

But...

Newman got beat on a big play...

Have at your agendas....

It's a good day for some of you...

Your days have been rare in this regard.

Enjoy it..
 
Speaking of "agendas" #41gy..

:laugh2:


.. always right there to defend your boy all year long when he's clearly been beat game in and game out.

Go ahead and post another quote from the same anonymous scout saying that Newman is a shut down corner now.. lol.
 
RoyTheHammer;3718696 said:
Speaking of "agendas" #41gy..

:laugh2:


.. always right there to defend your boy all year long when he's clearly been beat game in and game out.

Go ahead and post another quote from the same anonymous scout saying that Newman is a shut down corner now.. lol.
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At least he's posting something.

You still haven't answered my query in the "Romo's not a leader" thread.
 
RoboQB;3718515 said:
Regarding the play Newman was burned by Meachem at the end, am I the only one that believes Balll was supposed to help him over the top?

You don't leave your corners in man coverage when your ahead by four and the opposing team has to march 90 yards to win the game.

I believe that Ball was to blame on that particular play.

Not a Newman "hugger" or hater. Just a knowledgable football fan.
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Nope, you are very observant and of course...Ball was out of position like he always is.

The guy is horrible. Why he is even out there is beyond me.

Newman did not play nearly as bad as some posters in this thread would like us to believe.

He is no where near the top of the problems this team has.
 
Newman has been great pretty much all year but he struggles in Zone so the switch isn't very good for him.


With that said hes been banged up too so none of us know how bad he is hurt.


I do know that we need DB's in this draft. Especially safeties.
 
ThreeSportStar80;3718724 said:
I'm not for losing though.
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I think we're looking at 5-11 to 6-10 so we're going to be in the 4-8 region.


I bet we get a shot @ him.

We'll be 3-9 after the Colts game.
 
Primetime42;3718715 said:
At least he's posting something.

You still haven't answered my query in the "Romo's not a leader" thread.
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I stated my reasons for saying what i did very early in that thread. I don't respond to everyone after people start insulting me and acting like they know more than anyone else on this board about things that can't be said for sure either way. Unless you're in the locker room no one here knows how much the players look up to Romo and how much of a leader he really is. So debating this issue is far from stupid. One win in four chances in the postseason with teams that were considered super bowl caliber teams. That's the last im going to say about it.

I've moved on with my life.. you should too. ;)


Oh btw.. did you watch the game today? Hear Aikman bring up the point that as the leader and face of this franchise its very strange that Romo hasn't even made himself available to the media at all to even make one comment about the new head coach or anything else for that matter since the change?

Sounds suspiciously like one of the points i was making yesterday.. just sayin. Moving on..
 
RoyTheHammer;3718696 said:
Speaking of "agendas" #41gy..

:laugh2:


.. always right there to defend your boy all year long when he's clearly been beat game in and game out.

Go ahead and post another quote from the same anonymous scout saying that Newman is a shut down corner now.. lol.
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I will defend my guy from wrong opinions like yours.

"Newman is what you'd consider a shut-down corner," one scout said. "Talented player. Long arms. Some say he's still a top five (cornerback). Not real big and physical, but he will go in and cut a guy down."

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/70062137.html 2009 NOV



That "one NFL scout" quotes the "some" (plural) that he has talked to in his NFL profession. Again, "some" would be plural and not just what that one scout thought. That would be what other NFL people thought, the guys who actually get paid to evaluate personnel in the NFL.

I guess RTH knows more than NFL Scouts.

You have stated that Newman has never been "that" good, or that he is over rated.

When it's been just the exact opposite. He more respected around the NFL when it comes to NFL GMs, NFL Scouts, Pro Personnel People, NFL Coaches, ect...

A 2008 Pro Football Weekly Survey of NFL GMs, NFL scouts, NFL personnel guys, and NFL coaches rated Newman the number 5 CB in the NFL coming into 2008. Do I need to go get the link. I've posted it on here before. So, what that "one" NFL scout stated late last year, fits what this survey stated.

Rod Woodson put Newman exactly at number 5 in one of his recent surveys that was within this time frame, too. (Before the 2009 season)

Go ahead...

It's a great day for RTH...

Beep...

Beep...

Newman and Jenkins were rated the number 4 CB duo after last season according to an article that surveyed NFL personnel people, scouts, GMs, and NFL coaches.

I've given you four NFL sources who put Newman in a top 5 list.

What ever...

Again, it's a good day for this thread..

Enjoy it...

You guys have not had very many over the last 8 years..

Going into this game, Newman had only given up 2 significant plays down the sidelines in man coverage. Both plays were not nearly as big as this one. The NY and GB plays were around 20 yard plays or in that area.

The one today hurt for sure, but Newman should not have even been on the field.

If Roy Williams protects the football, Dallas is most likely playing cover 2 when they go back out there.

I just put this in another thread recently, and that thread sure did croak fast.

Again, you have some ammunition now...

Fire away....
 
41gy#;3718750 said:
I will defend my guy from wrong opinions like yours.

That "one NFL scout" quotes the "some" (plural) that he has talked to in his NFL profession. Again, "some" would be plural and not just what that one scout thought. That would be what other NFL people thought, the guys who actually get paid to evaluate personnel in the NFL.

I guess RTH knows more than NFL Scouts.

You have stated that Newman has never been "that" good, or that he is over rated.

When it's been just the exact opposite. He more respected around the NFL when it comes to NFL GMs, NFL Scouts, Pro Personnel people, NFL coaches, ect...

A 2008 Pro Football Weekly Survey of NFL GMs, NFL scouts, NFL personnel guys, and NFL coaches rated Newman the number 5 CB in the NFL coming into 2008. Do I need to go get the link. I've posted it on here before. So, what that "one" NFL scout stated late last year, fits what this survey stated.

Rod Woodson put Newman exactly at number 5 in one of his recent surveys that was within this time frame, too. (Before the 2009 season)

Go ahead...

It's a great day for RTH...

Beep...

Beep...

Newman and Jenkins were rated the number 4 CB duo after last season according to an article that surveyed NFL personnel people, scouts, GMs, and NFL coaches.

I've given you four NFL sources who put Newman in a top 5 list.

What ever...

Again, it's a good day for this thread..

Enjoy it...

You guys have not had very many over the last 8 years..

Going into this game, Newman had only given up 2 significant plays down the sidelines in man coverage. Both plays were not nearly as big as this one. The NY and GB play were around 20 yard plays or in that area.

The one today hurt for sure, but Newman should not have even been on the field.

If Roy Williams protects the football, Dallas is most likely playing cover 2 when they go back out there.

I just put this in another thread recently, and that thread sure did croak fast.

Again, you have some ammunition now...

Fire away....
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You didn't know?

You should hear what he has to say about Romo. I'm really hoping Jerry Jones hires him as general manager someday. In fact, I'd move to Dallas and take out a home loan and somehow divert the money towards financing season tickets if they made RoyTheHammer general manager.

RoyTheHammer is like the Pope; he's just infallable.

The less you argue with him, the happier you'll be.
 
You copy and paste your posts don't you lol. Keep quoting scouts and articles from 2 years ago.

For the last time, Newman is a solid, but inconsistent CB. Nothing more, nothing less. He'll give up plays every game, but then flash some good plays too. Like today, he'll bat a ball out of the WR's hands, then he'll get burnt deep. He is what he is.. i don't need a scout to tell me what i see on the field.



I have a great idea actually.. why don't you post a poll?

We have quite a few people on this board, over 1000 at least i would think who are active.. so why don't you post a poll seeing how many on here think Newman is a shutdown CB and how many do not. Do it.. but be warned, you won't like the results lol.
 
The Emperor;3718761 said:
You didn't know?

You should hear what he has to say about Romo. I'm really hoping Jerry Jones hires him as general manager someday. In fact, I'd move to Dallas and take out a home loan and somehow divert the money towards financing season tickets if they made RoyTheHammer general manager.

RoyTheHammer is like the Pope; he's just infallable.

The less you argue with him, the happier you'll be.
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I have my opinions just like you and anyone else. I back them up. If you want to flame another thread, im not going to oblige. PM me if you want to trade insults.. otherwise you should probably just move on with your life. Its kinda creepy that you follow me around threads just to insult me. lol

BTW.. since you just had to post in here, why not offer something of value to the thread.. do you consider Newman one of the few shutdown CB's in this league? I'd love to hear your opinion, backed up with youre own reasoning of course.. if that's allowed here.
 
No sane person would even try to defend Newman's play today.

I will be so happy the day that piece of garbage is no longer a Dallas Cowboy. The sooner the better.

Put him on IR. Cut him. Make him inactive. I don't care.

Call up Teddy Williams from the practice squad to take his place. Teddy Williams would have played better than Newman. McCann would have played better than Newman.
 
RoyTheHammer;3718740 said:
I stated my reasons for saying what i did very early in that thread. I don't respond to everyone after people start insulting me and acting like they know more than anyone else on this board about things that can't be said for sure either way. Unless you're in the locker room no one here knows how much the players look up to Romo and how much of a leader he really is. So debating this issue is far from stupid. One win in four chances in the postseason with teams that were considered super bowl caliber teams. That's the last im going to say about it.

I've moved on with my life.. you should too. ;)


Oh btw.. did you watch the game today? Hear Aikman bring up the point that as the leader and face of this franchise its very strange that Romo hasn't even made himself available to the media at all to even make one comment about the new head coach or anything else for that matter since the change?

Sounds suspiciously like one of the points i was making yesterday.. just sayin. Moving on..
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I must have missed the part where I insulted you.

I have no problem calling you a hypocrite, though.
 
Primetime42;3718852 said:
I must have missed the part where I insulted you.

I have no problem calling you a hypocrite, though.
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You didn't insult me.. read the post again.

As for being a hypocrite.. i'd love to hear the reasoning behind that lol.

..but in a PM. If you want to flame other threads to get at me do it to someone who cares. You wana PM me and chat? Go for it.. otherwise don't interrupt the thread topic with this garbage.


Since you wana be another fanboy who takes time out of what im sure is your're very important life to follow me around threads just to try and get me to respond to you or belittle me.. i'll ask you the same thing lol. You wana post in this thread? Add something of value? What's your opinion on Newman? Do you think he's a shutdown CB? Why or why not?
 
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