Twitter: Next gen stats - Zeke was slower in 2017

blueblood70

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Feel free to discuss. I think there are several reasons for this : off season issues, trouble with the league etc. stress weighs on people

nope how about with the line in shambles hes was slower with his first step and his burst was late and tackles got there earlier..too much went wrong im tired of all the fans trying to find the one player who cause dit..it was all of them as a team..it just didn't workout...yet with all that 9-7 wasn't horrible and im expecting abounce back season..11-5 easy..
 

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Doesn't seem like much of a sample size.

And accounts for 0 other variables that happen on any given run play.

Maybe the OL didn't run block as well, maybe defenses stacked the box more, maybe certain alignments gave opposing defenses more predictability to play the run. Maybe Daks inefficiency led to teams playing the run differently in packages.

That's why these stupid dorks who took intro Stats in college are making ****** Excel plots, and making all the goobers believe something that is laughable to anyone who's done data analysis profesionally.
 

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I am interested in seeing if this is brought up in All or Nothing. Fans picked up on it early in the season that he didn’t have the same burst which was met with harsh criticism of “can’t be Zeke”. Analysts picked up on it but they are just haters. Jerry eluded to Zeke being in better shape coming off the suspension. Now these numbers seem to support the thought Zeke wasn’t the same last year.

Sure everything can be discredited and brushed off. Is there anything that shows he was the same other than believing he was?
 
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Rofl. What a terrible way to use numbers to try and prove a stupid point.

Confirmation bias at it's finest right here.

Just by eyeball, the first thing that jumps out is the opposite of the point of the OP.

In 2016, Zeke got faster Q1 to Q4
In 2017, Zeke got slower Q1 to Q4

Just by the numbers, he started the season in better shape in 2017.
 

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Feel free to discuss. I think there are several reasons for this : off season issues, trouble with the league etc. stress weighs on people

I said this early in the season and was loudly criticized.

Go figure.
 

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And I was led to believe it was all Dak’s inability to throw an out route

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Zeke was slower in 2017

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I am interested in seeing if this is brought up in All or Nothing. Fans picked up on it early in the season that he didn’t have the same burst which was met with harsh criticism of “can’t be Zeke”. Analysts picked up on it but they are just haters. Jerry eluded to Zeke being in better shape coming off the suspension. Now these numbers seem to support the thought Zeke wasn’t the same last year.

Sure everything can be discredited and brushed off. Is there anything that shows he was the same other than believing he was?
Zeke admitted it himself and it was noticeable.... he put on the Freshman 15 in all those meetings with his lawyers.......no crop tops in the courtroom
 

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"Out of shape" Zeke was headed toward 1,600 plus yards and another rushing title before #HerTruth sat him down for a month and a half.

All the bullcrap that went with the lies a woman told, all the distraction and that was the pace he was at before the suspension. And he was getting better every game.

On the laundry list of worries with this team, Zeke Elliott is about last on the list.

So yeah, Joshy....he who thinks he knows something....Dallas "better hope" that doesn't happen again or we're liable to have another rushing champion.
 

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"Out of shape" Zeke was headed toward 1,600 plus yards and another rushing title before #HerTruth sat him down for a month and a half.

All the bullcrap that went with the lies a woman told, all the distraction and that was the pace he was at before the suspension. And he was getting better every game.

On the laundry list of worries with this team, Zeke Elliott is about last on the list.

So yeah, Joshy....he who thinks he knows something....Dallas "better hope" that doesn't happen again or we're liable to have another rushing champion.
His six pack had a cooler last year

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18 mph was the top speed in both years. They are claiming he wore down more this past year.
 

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"Out of shape" Zeke was headed toward 1,600 plus yards and another rushing title before #HerTruth sat him down for a month and a half.

All the bullcrap that went with the lies a woman told, all the distraction and that was the pace he was at before the suspension. And he was getting better every game.

On the laundry list of worries with this team, Zeke Elliott is about last on the list.

So yeah, Joshy....he who thinks he knows something....Dallas "better hope" that doesn't happen again or we're liable to have another rushing champion.
Any runner given volume in our system is going to "put up yards."

Zeke was noticeably worse this year than last.

Arguing otherwise is silly and exposed ones bias.
 

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"Out of shape" Zeke was headed toward 1,600 plus yards and another rushing title before #HerTruth sat him down for a month and a half.

All the bullcrap that went with the lies a woman told, all the distraction and that was the pace he was at before the suspension. And he was getting better every game.

On the laundry list of worries with this team, Zeke Elliott is about last on the list.

So yeah, Joshy....he who thinks he knows something....Dallas "better hope" that doesn't happen again or we're liable to have another rushing champion.

Wish he would get those 1600 yards on 313 carries instead of 390 carries, or if he is going to have 390 carries he has 1900+ yards.
 
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