Next OC. Mike McCarthy or Kliff Kingsbury?

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I'd say bring in Kliff Kingsbury and pay him top dollars just like we did with Garrett back in the day. But McCarthy wouldn't suck instead of Linehan.
 
No to McCarthy.
Maybe to Kingsbury. Would like to see other options out there after the season though. As he can’t be any worse than Linehan. However, not sure I like all the pass plays or possibly being too aggressive.

I rather see some other names on a list.
 
No interest in McCarthy.

But very interested in Kingsbury. I don't see it in happening however.
 
Mookie said:
I'd say bring in Kliff Kingsbury and pay him top dollars just like we did with Garrett back in the day. But McCarthy wouldn't suck instead of Linehan.
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:huh:

Mike McCarthy the Head Coach of the Packers?

They don't win that much despite him a top tier QB.

The Cowboys can likely get Kingsbury without having to make him the Head Coach.
 
Kingsbury has been gifted Johnny Manziel, Baker Mayfield and Patrick Mahomes as a college playcaller. That’s three of the 5-6 best college QBs in the last 10 years. How much can we trust his abilities vs having amazing QBs make him look good?

Additionally, he’s a pure air raid guy as a player and coach. He has no experience operating an offense like what he would need to run to be successful with this roster. And pure air raid concepts dont work in the NFL, they can be effective as a component but you can’t run the air raid out of 10 and 11 personnel exclusively. NFL defenses are too good in space.
 
Kingsbury has a standing offer to become the offensive coordinator at USC.

He is weighing that against a few offers to join NFL teams right now as a consultant. The Rams, Cowboys, and Texans have been rumored to be interested. My bet is that if he joins an NFL team it will be as a consultant right now and then in the off-season will be "promoted" to an offensive coordinator or some sort of assistant head coach/quarterback coach.
 
Enough with the re-treads at OC. Do we really need more failed head coaches on this team?

Get a young guy who's an assistant somewhere in the NFL or a guy out of the college ranks.
 
KingintheNorth said:
Kingsbury has a standing offer to become the offensive coordinator at USC.

He is weighing that against a few offers to join NFL teams right now as a consultant. The Rams, Cowboys, and Texans have been rumored to be interested. My bet is that if he joins an NFL team it will be as a consultant right now and then in the off-season will be "promoted" to an offensive coordinator or some sort of assistant head coach/quarterback coach.
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I dont know whats stopping Jerry from making that move.

Better offense = SB contender this year/better evaluation of Dak
 
TWOK11 said:
Kingsbury has been gifted Johnny Manziel, Baker Mayfield and Patrick Mahomes as a college playcaller. That’s three of the 5-6 best college QBs in the last 10 years. How much can we trust his abilities vs having amazing QBs make him look good?

Additionally, he’s a pure air raid guy as a player and coach. He has no experience operating an offense like what he would need to run to be successful with this roster. And pure air raid concepts dont work in the NFL, they can be effective as a component but you can’t run the air raid out of 10 and 11 personnel exclusively. NFL defenses are too good in space.
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NFL teams are not looking to become Air Raid teams, they simply want to add Air Raid elements to their offensive playbook like the Rams, Chiefs, Patriots, and Bears have. Kingsbury would be ideal for that IMO.
 
TWOK11 said:
Kingsbury has been gifted Johnny Manziel, Baker Mayfield and Patrick Mahomes as a college playcaller. That’s three of the 5-6 best college QBs in the last 10 years. How much can we trust his abilities vs having amazing QBs make him look good?

Additionally, he’s a pure air raid guy as a player and coach. He has no experience operating an offense like what he would need to run to be successful with this roster. And pure air raid concepts dont work in the NFL, they can be effective as a component but you can’t run the air raid out of 10 and 11 personnel exclusively. NFL defenses are too good in space.
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This. I'm in Lubbock, and while I do have some respect for Kliff's offensive mind it sort of gets overrated too. No evidence what he does would work in the NFL and he got most of his ideas from former Texas Tech coach (and his coach when he was the QB at Texas Tech) Mike Leach.
 
Playing devils advocate here. What exactly has this kingsbury guy done to deserve such high 'praise'. Didn't Texas Tech fire him?
 
First thing I would do is make Richard the head coach. Next, I would tell him I would like an aggressive in your face team on both sides of the ball so go find the coordinators you trust to do that. Next, I would sit back and enjoy my brilliant decision making.
 
Elusive6thRing said:
This. I'm in Lubbock, and while I do have some respect for Kliff's offensive mind it sort of gets overrated too. No evidence what he does would work in the NFL and he got most of his ideas from former Texas Tech coach (and his coach when he was the QB at Texas Tech) Mike Leach.
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Any college concepts that get imported to the NFL with a guy that understands them are better than some 30 year lifer that thinks the NFL is like it was even 15 years ago.

It is so evident and clear that the talent that is going to the NFL is not what it once was. They all have been taught this spread nonsense since Pee Wee.

Either embrace it or perish.

I hate it, because it does not seem like the football I grew up on, but I am not dumb enough to think that old coaches in the NFL can teach these kids completely new things.
 
Cowboys22 said:
First thing I would do is make Richard the head coach. Next, I would tell him I would like an aggressive in your face team on both sides of the ball so go find the coordinators you trust to do that. Next, I would sit back and enjoy my brilliant decision making.
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So you promote Richard. Is he equipped to handle a team?

The last time he had a whole side of the football in Seattle he got fired.

Just because he yells, picks fights and impresses you with his animation does not mean he is ready to run a football team.
 
Mookie said:
I'd say bring in Kliff Kingsbury and pay him top dollars just like we did with Garrett back in the day. But McCarthy wouldn't suck instead of Linehan.
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I am nor so sure...... the NFL is about talent and execution and about play calling not necessarily play design....everyone runs the same route trees..... Kelly was supposed to be this college genius who was going to revolutionize the NFL and he is out of the league in 4 years......the college spread offenses don't translate to NFL that easily
 
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