Next time a Skins fan...

[superpunk]

Plus, any ideas they might have had about a super bowl victory went out the window once there was no work stoppage.:laugh1:

Only funny if you know your his'try.

 

[DragonCowboy]

The best part is Galloway just walking in there casually...

 

[Clove]

Oh, the CARNAGE!!

Did you see the look on Theiiiiiisman's face... he was really scared...

Keep posting so I can continuously see your sig.

 

[MC KAos]

hey i hate the deadskins just as much as the next guy, but their numbers arent THAT bad, not as good as ours, but they are a pretty good franchise. I still hate the Commanders, dont get me wrong, but id say the eagles are WAY more sorry than the deadskins

 

[Hostile]

typical Cowboys fans, last season turned ya'll into a bunch of historians

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Your av title is accurate.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Keep posting so I can continuously see your sig.

10-4 good buddy

 

[firehawk350]

I dont know why you guys let these skins fans bother you so much?

You could not find these people two years ago. All of a sudden they are all the biggest nfl fans ever...! whatever.

They are laughable. I love reading their posts about how gibbs is better than parcells, brunnell is better than bledsoe, the skins are going to win the nfc....blah blah...

They had a good season, they deserve accolades for last year, the circumstances set up perfectly for them in december and getting to play the eagles as a cupcake the last game was the perfect scenario. September starts a new season.

I have no Idea why so many of them come here and talk trash? It is entertainment though.

Let me ask the obvious then... In what ways is Parcells better then Gibbs? Gibbs is 140-76 (65% win percentage), 3 super bowl wins, 4 NFC championships and a 17-5 record in the postseason. Parcells is 163-123 (57% win percentage) 2 super bowl wins, 3 AFC championships and a 11-7 record in the postseason. So Gibbs has a better record, more super bowls, more conference championships and more wins and less losses in the postseason but Gibbs somehow is not better then Parcells. Yeah okay... I think the skins this year has as good of a chance to get to the super bowl as anyone else. Just like the Cowboys have a good chance as well. Just my thoughts...

 

[SkinsFan07]

It's because you guys were never in the playoffs late enough to play us more than twice...

We've only been in the playoffs together 9 times. Out of those times, you lost in the first round 5 of those 9 years.

We have more playoff VICTORIES than you guys have APPEARANCES...

It's pretty easy to break down the two franchises since 1960:

Regular Season Record:
Dallas 392-292-6
Washington 357-321-12

NFC Division Titles:
Dallas: 18
Washington: 6

NFC Conference Championships:
Dallas 10
Washington 5

Playoff Appearances:
Dallas 27
Washington 15

Playoff Record:
Dallas 33-22
Washington 20-12

NFL Championship Appearances:
Dallas 2
Wasington 0

NFC Championship Appearances:
Dallas 14
Washington 6

Superbowl Appearances:
Dallas 8
Washington 5

Superbowl Wins:
Dallas 5
Washington 3

All-time Head to Head:
54-35-2 (Dallas)

Playoff Head to Head:
2-0 (Washington)

Your stat about Washington having 0 NFL championships is incorrect my friend. You must have gotten them mixed up b/c according to the links i posted below, ya'll have ZERO NFL championships, not 2.

We have 2 NFL championships (1937 and 1942).

Also you guys only have 10 conference championships not 12, and we have 5 conference championships, not 6.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Cowboys

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Redskins

SO Overall we have the same amount of total Championships with 5 each.

The rest of your info is correct. But make sure you have the right stuff so you don't make yourself look bad when someone like me finds the correct info.

Doesn't make you guys look that much better than us, now does it?

 

[SkinsFan07]

Let me ask the obvious then... In what ways is Parcells better then Gibbs? Gibbs is 140-76 (65% win percentage), 3 super bowl wins, 4 NFC championships and a 17-5 record in the postseason. Parcells is 163-123 (57% win percentage) 2 super bowl wins, 3 AFC championships and a 11-7 record in the postseason. So Gibbs has a better record, more super bowls, more conference championships and more wins and less losses in the postseason but Gibbs somehow is not better then Parcells. Yeah okay... I think the skins this year has as good of a chance to get to the super bowl as anyone else. Just like the Cowboys have a good chance as well. Just my thoughts...

Great post, and I couldn't agree more. But add to that, that GIBBS is a HALL OF FAME coach, and well Parcells isn't..................................

 

[DragonCowboy]

Let me ask the obvious then... In what ways is Parcells better then Gibbs? Gibbs is 140-76 (65% win percentage), 3 super bowl wins, 4 NFC championships and a 17-5 record in the postseason. Parcells is 163-123 (57% win percentage) 2 super bowl wins, 3 AFC championships and a 11-7 record in the postseason. So Gibbs has a better record, more super bowls, more conference championships and more wins and less losses in the postseason but Gibbs somehow is not better then Parcells. Yeah okay... I think the skins this year has as good of a chance to get to the super bowl as anyone else. Just like the Cowboys have a good chance as well. Just my thoughts...

Good points...

Gibbs does seem like the better coach, but there could also be an argument for Bill Parcells.

He took the Giants, Patriots, and Cowboys and made them respectable (not sure about the Jets...). Gibbs stuck with one team.

Tell me if you understand what I'm saying...Parcells rebuilt three teams, and reaped some rewards, while Gibbs built one team. You'll agree with me that you'll come across more losses when you rebuild bad teams than if you stick with a good team.

And, look at the Parcells-Gibbs head-to-head. I think Parcells is ahead, not sure though...

Good points, IMO, Gibbs is a better coach though, from what I've heard from their pasts...

 

[theebs]

Let me ask the obvious then... In what ways is Parcells better then Gibbs? Gibbs is 140-76 (65% win percentage), 3 super bowl wins, 4 NFC championships and a 17-5 record in the postseason. Parcells is 163-123 (57% win percentage) 2 super bowl wins, 3 AFC championships and a 11-7 record in the postseason. So Gibbs has a better record, more super bowls, more conference championships and more wins and less losses in the postseason but Gibbs somehow is not better then Parcells. Yeah okay... I think the skins this year has as good of a chance to get to the super bowl as anyone else. Just like the Cowboys have a good chance as well. Just my thoughts...

Ok I dont really want to get into right now because I dont have the time.

I will say this. Gibbs came to a talented Commanders team now twice. Those are his only coaching stops.

Parcells is the ultimate franchise rebuilder, go check the records of the teams he took over in new england, ny jets and now dallas before he was there and look at the success while he was there.,

Let me put it this way, parcells has twice taken over a team the quality of the texans last year and had the number 1 pick, he turned them into outstanding teams. Gibbs has never done anything remotely close to this. Comparing the two to me is apples and oranges.

IF gibbs had come back last year and taken over the niners and then made them a winner that would be comparable. However he came back to a team that had arrington, samuels, jansen, dockery, thomas, 1st round qb in ramsey, fred smoot, coles, then traded bailey for portis and signed brunell. He had alot of talent there already and just needed to lay down the law.

I think gibbs is a fantastic coach, I lost all respect for him after the comments in the dallas game last year and the way he reacted to it, and his queer eye for the straight guy handshakes when the skins lost twice to Dallas two years ago... He has become a whiner and a bit of a baby. So I have lost alot of respect that I once had for the guy who coached back then, Who I thought was fantastic.

He took over a talented team that was ready to win now, he did not rebuild it or has he ever.

Parcells is on his 4th franchise reconstruction.

Its apples and oranges, you can pull winning percentages all you want, the fact is look at those pats, jets, cowboys teams the year before and the year after, the talent goes up and the quality goes up as do the results and it is all from the ground up.

Especially the patriots, they were not just a bad team they were a really bad franchise. They had horrible practice facilities and horrible practice fields. The whole operation was second rate, he whipped that whole franchise into shape and layed the foundation for success that carried over.

Not only that but parcells coached at air force for one year and he is credited for putting a stamp on that program that lasted like 19 years.

He is a rebuilder who enjoys the challenge. Its apples and oranges, both are fantastic but just showing the winning percentage is only half the story. You have to look at what teams they were coaching and in what situation.

 

[firehawk350]

Great post, and I couldn't agree more. But add to that, that GIBBS is a HALL OF FAME coach, and well Parcells isn't..................................

At the same hand, Parcells probably will be given enough time. Gibbs just has the time in service... The thing i found interesting is parcells with belicheck vs. parcells with belicheck

Parcells with Belicheck went 117-73-1, won 11 playoff games and 2 super bowls. Without, he went 44-47 and lost his only playoff game.

 

[theebs]

At the same hand, Parcells probably will be given enough time. Gibbs just has the time in service... The thing i found interesting is parcells with belicheck vs. parcells with belicheck

Parcells with Belicheck went 117-73-1, won 11 playoff games and 2 super bowls. Without, he went 44-47 and lost his only playoff game.

UMM R U serious? Gibbs is a hall of fame coach and parcells isnt? OMG

This is why I dont usually argue or try to debate with you guys because if you dont even know why parcells isnt in the hall of fame, having any kind of intelligent organized debate is impossible.

And as far as the parcells with belichick debate goes, belichick won in new england with parcells whole staff! Guess you didnt notice that tidbit, funny how belichick made a mess of the browns and didnt win without that coaching staff, nor did he last year.

and again, it is about talent. Parcells in Dallas doesnt have his old guys here as coaches, none of them, they are all head coaches or assitants somewhere else. So keep that in mind, while in Dallas parcells is not only coaching players but coaching the coaches, and then reorganizing the front office and scouting department to improve the draft which he has.

Gibbs has his guys in washington again, at least a few of them to lean on as he always did in the old days. How would gibbs do If he was hired as the texans coach this past offseason and couldnt bring any assitants along with him, had to hire and teach all the coaches as well as the players.

Anway, if you dont even understand why parcells isnt in the hall of fame then this is over because you are a johnny come lately who only remembers last season.

 

[firehawk350]

Ok I dont really want to get into right now because I dont have the time.

I will say this. Gibbs came to a talented Commanders team now twice. Those are his only coaching stops.

Parcells is the ultimate franchise rebuilder, go check the records of the teams he took over in new england, ny jets and now dallas before he was there and look at the success while he was there.,

Let me put it this way, parcells has twice taken over a team the quality of the texans last year and had the number 1 pick, he turned them into outstanding teams. Gibbs has never done anything remotely close to this. Comparing the two to me is apples and oranges.

IF gibbs had come back last year and taken over the niners and then made them a winner that would be comparable. However he came back to a team that had arrington, samuels, jansen, dockery, thomas, 1st round qb in ramsey, fred smoot, coles, then traded bailey for portis and signed brunell. He had alot of talent there already and just needed to lay down the law.

I think gibbs is a fantastic coach, I lost all respect for him after the comments in the dallas game last year and the way he reacted to it, and his queer eye for the straight guy handshakes when the skins lost twice to Dallas two years ago... He has become a whiner and a bit of a baby. So I have lost alot of respect that I once had for the guy who coached back then, Who I thought was fantastic.

He took over a talented team that was ready to win now, he did not rebuild it or has he ever.

Parcells is on his 4th franchise reconstruction.

Its apples and oranges, you can pull winning percentages all you want, the fact is look at those pats, jets, cowboys teams the year before and the year after, the talent goes up and the quality goes up as do the results and it is all from the ground up.

Especially the patriots, they were not just a bad team they were a really bad franchise. They had horrible practice facilities and horrible practice fields. The whole operation was second rate, he whipped that whole franchise into shape and layed the foundation for success that carried over.

Not only that but parcells coached at air force for one year and he is credited for putting a stamp on that program that lasted like 19 years.

He is a rebuilder who enjoys the challenge. Its apples and oranges, both are fantastic but just showing the winning percentage is only half the story. You have to look at what teams they were coaching and in what situation.

I gotta throw the BS flag here. The Skins, before Coach Gibbs, were 6-10 and 5-11. Hardly turn-key there. it's debatable if Parcells set the NE Patriots for success because it still took them until 2001 (4 years after Parcells left) to win a playoff game. What a coincidence, that was the second year that belicheck had the team. So NE's success is much more solidly tied to Belicheck then Parcells' "legacy".
And you still have the fact that Parcells without Belicheck has a losing record...

 

[trickblue]

Your stat about Washington having 0 NFL championships is incorrect my friend. You must have gotten them mixed up b/c according to the links i posted below, ya'll have ZERO NFL championships, not 2.

We have 2 NFL championships (1937 and 1942).

Also you guys only have 10 conference championships not 12, and we have 5 conference championships, not 6.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Cowboys

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Redskins

SO Overall we have the same amount of total Championships with 5 each.

The rest of your info is correct. But make sure you have the right stuff so you don't make yourself look bad when someone like me finds the correct info.

Doesn't make you guys look that much better than us, now does it?

My friend... had you read the post, you would see it was from 1960 on, when both teams were in the league at the same time... apples to apples...

My advice to you would be to read a an entire post before being critical of said post...

Make sure you have the right stuff so you don't make yourself look bad when someone like me posts the correct info...

http://img.***BLOCKED***/albums/v628/cowboyszone/thread_stuff/learn_to_read.jpg

 

[theebs]

I gotta throw the BS flag here. The Skins, before Coach Gibbs, were 6-10 and 5-11. Hardly turn-key there. it's debatable if Parcells set the NE Patriots for success because it still took them until 2001 (4 years after Parcells left) to win a playoff game. What a coincidence, that was the second year that belicheck had the team. So NE's success is much more solidly tied to Belicheck then Parcells' "legacy".
And you still have the fact that Parcells without Belicheck has a losing record...

Yeah that was the kind of response I expected. thanks for playing johnny come lately.

Geez, I am doing exactly what I posted I didnt understand why other people did.

 

[Hostile]

My friend... had you read the post, you would see it was from 1960 on, when both teams were in the league at the same time... apples to apples...

My advice to you would be to read a an entire post before being critical of said post...

Make sure you have the right stuff so you don't make yourself look bad when someone like me posts the correct info...

http://img.***BLOCKED***/albums/v628/cowboyszone/thread_stuff/learn_to_read.jpg

 

[SkinsFan07]

My friend... had you read the post, you would see it was from 1960 on, when both teams were in the league at the same time... apples to apples...

My advice to you would be to read a an entire post before being critical of said post...

Make sure you have the right stuff so you don't make yourself look bad when someone like me posts the correct info...

http://img.***BLOCKED***/albums/v628/cowboyszone/thread_stuff/learn_to_read.jpg

still doesn't disregard the fact that you were wrong about ya'll having 12 NFC championships.

 

[trickblue]

still doesn't disregard the fact that you were wrong about ya'll having 12 NFC championships.

Scroll up to my original post... #7 and tell me exactly where I said 12 for us and 6 for you ...

It CLEARLY says 10 and 5...

I'll be waiting...

I'll tell you something, my friend... you aren't coming across as a child in the gifted program at school...

http://img.***BLOCKED***/albums/v628/cowboyszone/hosted/snyder_gifted.jpg

 

[DragonCowboy]

still doesn't disregard the fact that you were wrong about ya'll having 12 NFC championships.

And your source is Wikipedia...anyone can edit wikipedia...

I would take trickblue over wikipedia anyday...