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Every analyst on NFC Playbook--Sharpe, Balldinger, Millen, and Theisman--picked the Commanders to win on Monday night, and not one of them cited the Cowboys' growing injury list as an impetus for his decision. In fact, they completely ignored the injury situation.

Instead, they raved about the Commanders' offense and how the Cowboys defense will be completely impotent against the onslaught of Sexy Rexy and Jabar Gaffney.

Admittedly, a Commander win wouldn't surprise me in the event that Austin, Bryant, and Romo don't play. It will be extremely difficult to cobble together any sustained offense with Jon Kitna throwing to Ogletree and Holley.
 
ScipioCowboy;4132949 said:
Every analyst on NFC Playbook--Sharpe, Balldinger, Millen, and Theisman--picked the Commanders to win on Monday night, and not one of them cited the Cowboys' growing injury list as an impetus for his decision. In fact, they completely ignored the injury situation.

Instead, they raved about the Commanders' offense and how the Cowboys defense will be completely impotent against the onslaught of Sexy Rexy and Jabar Gaffney.

Admittedly, a Commander win wouldn't surprise me in the event that Austin, Bryant, and Romo don't play. It will be extremely difficult to cobble together any sustained offense with Jon Kitna throwing to Ogletree and Holley.

I love it when this happens. The Cowboys play the best when they are the underdogs
 
I used to think Playbook was the best football show on television until I realized it's nothing more than a survey show. They don't really analyze the games.

You're telling me Rex Grossman and Jabar Gaffney are the only elements that are going to beat the Cowboys? Let's not even contest that they will. Let's accept it. You're telling me that's the single reason? There are a multiplicity of reasons, and Playbook never discusses them.

Here's why I think the Cowboys will win:

1. Rex Grossman's 59.1 rating against 3-4 teams. Two times, he's been shutout and thrown 3 picks against 3-4 teams. One of those times was against us.

2. The Cowboys have the 2nd ranked rushing defense. The Commanders have the 15th ranked rushing offense. This forces Rex to throw. See Reason 1.

3. The Commanders have the 24th ranked rushing defense. Although we're 32nd in the rushing department, most of that is skewed because we had to abandon the run in order to win the 49ers game. Even if Felix is dinged, Choice and Murray should be good enough to eat clock and give our defense a rest.

All of this is assuming we execute properly and Romo doesn't get injured. But even then, what I listed are primarily defensive statistics. What you're going to see in this game is our defense bring the Commanders offense down a notch. Whether or not that is good enough to win is dependent on how our offense is rolling on Monday night.
 
The Emperor;4132982 said:
I used to think Playbook was the best football show on television until I realized it's nothing more than a survey show. They don't really analyze the games.

You're telling me Rex Grossman and Jabar Gaffney are the only elements that are going to beat the Cowboys? Let's not even contest that they will. Let's accept it. You're telling me that's the single reason? There are a multiplicity of reasons, and Playbook never discusses them.

Here's why I think the Cowboys will win:

1. Rex Grossman's 59.1 rating against 3-4 teams. Two times, he's been shutout and thrown 3 picks against 3-4 teams. One of those times was against us.

2. The Cowboys have the 2nd ranked rushing defense. The Commanders have the 15th ranked rushing offense. This forces Rex to throw. See Reason 1.

3. The Commanders have the 24th ranked rushing defense. Although we're 32nd in the rushing department, most of that is skewed because we had to abandon the run in order to win the 49ers game. Even if Felix is dinged, Choice and Murray should be good enough to eat clock and give our defense a rest.

All of this is assuming we execute properly and Romo doesn't get injured. But even then, what I listed are primarily defensive statistics. What you're going to see in this game is our defense bring the Commanders offense down a notch. Whether or not that is good enough to win is dependent on how our offense is rolling on Monday night.

It's week three of the season - all those stats you just mentioned dont mean crap...as a matter a fact, stats dont mean crap for ANY Divisional game.
 
rdskn4eva;4132984 said:
It's week three of the season - all those stats you just mentioned dont mean crap...as a matter a fact, stats dont mean crap for ANY Divisional game.

I arrived at my conclusions using science and reason. How did you arrive at yours? By smearing menstrual blood on your chicken feathers?
 
The Emperor;4132985 said:
I arrived at my conclusions using science and reason. How did you arrive at yours? By smearing menstrual blood on your chicken feathers?

I arrived at my conclusion from watching Dallas/Commanders games for the past 20 years...Stats dont mean a damn thing in these games.
 
rdskn4eva;4132987 said:
I arrived at my conclusion from watching Dallas/Commanders games for the past 20 years...Stats dont mean a damn thing in these games.

That's a hackney line people say because either A) they're too lazy to analyze the games or B) they're too stupid to analyze the games. The statistics have been very predictive when it's come to these two teams going back to 2007.
 
ScipioCowboy;4132949 said:
Every analyst on NFC Playbook--Sharpe, Balldinger, Millen, and Theisman--picked the Commanders to win on Monday night, and not one of them cited the Cowboys' growing injury list as an impetus for his decision. In fact, they completely ignored the injury situation.

Instead, they raved about the Commanders' offense and how the Cowboys defense will be completely impotent against the onslaught of Sexy Rexy and Jabar Gaffney.

Admittedly, a Commander win wouldn't surprise me in the event that Austin, Bryant, and Romo don't play. It will be extremely difficult to cobble together any sustained offense with Jon Kitna throwing to Ogletree and Holley.

I agree, but the format of the show requires them to use footage from previous weeks to analyze strengths and weaknesses. But certainly the most important element of this week's match-up is the injuries to our offensive starters.
 
rdskn4eva;4132987 said:
I arrived at my conclusion from watching Dallas/Commanders games for the past 20 years...Stats dont mean a damn thing in these games.

Given that both of these teams have been substantially re-constituted since they last played each other in 2010, what specific Dallas/Commanders games from the past 20 years are you drawing your conclusions from? Those in which Campbell, McNabb, Brunnell, Ramsey, Wuerffel, Johnson, Banks, Frerotte, Rypien started - those games? (I'm sure that I forgot a dozen or so Skins QB's, sorry).
 
The Emperor;4132982 said:
I used to think Playbook was the best football show on television until I realized it's nothing more than a survey show. They don't really analyze the games.

You're telling me Rex Grossman and Jabar Gaffney are the only elements that are going to beat the Cowboys? Let's not even contest that they will. Let's accept it. You're telling me that's the single reason? There are a multiplicity of reasons, and Playbook never discusses them.

Here's why I think the Cowboys will win:

1. Rex Grossman's 59.1 rating against 3-4 teams. Two times, he's been shutout and thrown 3 picks against 3-4 teams. One of those times was against us.

2. The Cowboys have the 2nd ranked rushing defense. The Commanders have the 15th ranked rushing offense. This forces Rex to throw. See Reason 1.

3. The Commanders have the 24th ranked rushing defense. Although we're 32nd in the rushing department, most of that is skewed because we had to abandon the run in order to win the 49ers game. Even if Felix is dinged, Choice and Murray should be good enough to eat clock and give our defense a rest.

All of this is assuming we execute properly and Romo doesn't get injured. But even then, what I listed are primarily defensive statistics. What you're going to see in this game is our defense bring the Commanders offense down a notch. Whether or not that is good enough to win is dependent on how our offense is rolling on Monday night.
Not sure what his QB rating was last year against Dallas. But we were up 27-7, but only won 33-30. And Grossman put up HUGE numbes. I think he threw some picks. But last years defense is different than this years defense. He SHOULD have a much tougher time this year. But their running game this year is 10 times better than last year. Having said that, for us to win this game...the defense has to be lights out and force turnovers and give the offense a short field. Special teams have to be perfect. Offense has to be efficient. When fully healthy we are the better team. But we are too banged up at KEY spots to roll anyone right now. This offense has carried this defense for years. The defense needs to hold down the fort for a couple of weeks.
 
rdskn4eva;4132987 said:
I arrived at my conclusion from watching Dallas/Commanders games for the past 20 years...Stats dont mean a damn thing in these games.

And stadium beer means even more...right?
 
bbailey423;4133016 said:
The defense needs to hold down the fort for a couple of weeks.

The Defense did just that in the 49ers game. I don't think the Commanders running or passing game is much better than the 49ers.
 
Myself, I would leave the early season predictions of a conflict driven media...in the same category that I do tea leave readings and Ouija Board findings. They have been consistently in left field over the entire past four to five years on all topics concerning the Cowboys.

When the Cowboys win on Monday, they actually will be in control of the NFC East....and looking at even harder matchups in the Lions and then the Patriots. But this game against the Commanders is an important one...as the metal of that same Grossman hasn't been challenged upon how strongly he has been forged to in this season. Weaknesses in his very metal will be found out as he is bent and given character challenges. His ability to be steel, as in the vein of Tony Romo now, will be seen in a relatively short manner.

For now, the volumn levels will be left on, as there will be some directed and effort filled activity by both teams. We shall see were talent levels settle out for this very game. Myself, as long as the actual starters for Dallas remain in tact for this game, whether that includes Phil Costa, Miles Austin, Dez Bryant, or even Felix Jones.

Terence Newman can handle Santana Moss. Gerald Sensabaugh can handle Fred Davis. And the Dallas box can handle Tim Hightower.
 
CCBoy;4133026 said:
Myself, I would leave the early season predictions of a conflict driven media...in the same category that I do tea leave readings and Ouija Board findings. They have been consistently in left field over the entire past four to five years on all topics concerning the Cowboys.

When the Cowboys win on Monday, they actually will be in control of the NFC East....and looking at even harder matchups in the Lions and then the Patriots. But this game against the Commanders is an important one...as the metal of that same Grossman hasn't been challenged upon how strongly he has been forged to in this season. Weaknesses in his very metal will be found out as he is bent and given character challenges. His ability to be steel, as in the vein of Tony Romo now, will be seen in a relatively short manner.

For now, the volumn levels will be left on, as there will be some directed and effort filled activity by both teams. We shall see were talent levels settle out for this very game. Myself, as long as the actual starters for Dallas remain in tact for this game, whether that includes Phil Costa, Miles Austin, Dez Bryant, or even Felix Jones.

Terence Newman can handle Santana Moss. Gerald Sensabaugh can handle Fred Davis. And the Dallas box can handle Tim Hightower.

And one hot route throw on Dbag Hall's corner Blitz, that goes for 60 yards will handle him.
 
The Emperor;4132982 said:
I used to think Playbook was the best football show on television until I realized it's nothing more than a survey show. They don't really analyze the games.

I agree. But I would contend that the show used to provide more genuine analysis.

When the show started, it featured only two analysts, Baldinger and Sharpe, with the occasional guest. Now, it has five regular analysts--Baldinger, Sharpe, Theisman, Millen, and Billick.

There simply isn't insufficient time for any one of them to offer a detailed account of a game.

You're telling me Rex Grossman and Jabar Gaffney are the only elements that are going to beat the Cowboys? Let's not even contest that they will. Let's accept it. You're telling me that's the single reason? There are a multiplicity of reasons, and Playbook never discusses them.

Here's why I think the Cowboys will win:

1. Rex Grossman's 59.1 rating against 3-4 teams. Two times, he's been shutout and thrown 3 picks against 3-4 teams. One of those times was against us.

2. The Cowboys have the 2nd ranked rushing defense. The Commanders have the 15th ranked rushing offense. This forces Rex to throw. See Reason 1.

3. The Commanders have the 24th ranked rushing defense. Although we're 32nd in the rushing department, most of that is skewed because we had to abandon the run in order to win the 49ers game. Even if Felix is dinged, Choice and Murray should be good enough to eat clock and give our defense a rest.

All of this is assuming we execute properly and Romo doesn't get injured. But even then, what I listed are primarily defensive statistics. What you're going to see in this game is our defense bring the Commanders offense down a notch. Whether or not that is good enough to win is dependent on how our offense is rolling on Monday night.

Good analysis!
 
rdskn4eva;4132984 said:
It's week three of the season - all those stats you just mentioned dont mean crap...as a matter a fact, stats dont mean crap for ANY Divisional game.

I bet they would if they favoured your team
 
rdskn4eva;4132987 said:
I arrived at my conclusion from watching Dallas/Commanders games for the past 20 years...Stats dont mean a damn thing in these games.
Yeah the only stat that matters is the win/loss record in that 20 years....so how's that workin' for ya ?
 
Well...we were told one night that with The Triplets going into the Ring of Fame, there was no way the Commanders win and then later that season we were told "You got lucky on Monday Night but this Sunday, at FedEx, revenge is ours because we won't take you lightly"...only to see that ring hollow too. :)

We've seen winless Cowboys teams get one of their few victories over a playoff bound Skins team and vice versa.

The old cliche "throw the records out the window, it's a division rivalry" fits here. Even moreso when those rivals are the Cowboys/Commanders.

Should be a heckuva game.
 
CooleyDiesel;4133264 said:
Well...we were told one night that with The Triplets going into the Ring of Fame, there was no way the Commanders win and then later that season we were told "You got lucky on Monday Night but this Sunday, at FedEx, revenge is ours because we won't take you lightly"...only to see that ring hollow too. :)

Truly, Hos is a prophet. From two days ago:

Hostile;4129558 said:
You will hear the yapping this week. It happens every year. Dallas is on the schedule, here come the Commanders fans and their lame comments. You're going to hear all about 2005. What about it? Oh, that was their last season sweep of the Cowboys. They cherish it like it is some kind of magical season. I get that, because even though I am not a psychologist and just play one on the Internet, I know that in our 51 year History against them they only have 4 season sweeps, so the last one must be precious. Meanwhile we have busted out the brooms on them 15 times.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4129558&postcount=1

This was two days ago, and I venture that every Commanders fan, including the above poster, has mentioned this MNF game -- a regular season game that was played over five years ago.

Tough few years for y'all?
 
ScipioCowboy;4133275 said:
Truly, Hos is a prophet. From two days ago:



http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4129558&postcount=1

This was two days ago, and I venture that every Commanders fan, including the above poster, has mentioned this MNF game -- a regular season game that was played over five years ago.

Tough few years for y'all?
Nope, not at all.

Sorry if you get all out of sorts by a few innocuous comments by a rival fan.

Some posters here wouldn't admit that Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan may have turned the Commanders in the right direction even if held at gunpoint.

I just look at it this way: How much fun would you make of Commanders fans if our squad was as nicked up as yours and Skins fans predicted an easy victory?
 

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