Landry utilized the Shotgun formation than any other NFL team of that era, he did not create it if that's what you're implying as" brought in"
He used it as a more frequent weapon than the rest of the NFL in that era..
'quickccc' - you stated you never seen Fran Tarkenton play---Where do the Cowboys QBs rank among the Best All time QBs in NFL History:
( * still active)
1) Tom Brady *
2) Joe Montana
3) Peyton Manning
4) Aaron Rodgers*
5) Drew Brees *
6) Dan Marino
7) John Elway
8) Brett Favre
9) Dan Fouts
10) Pat Mahomes *
11 Steve Young
12 Kurt Warner
13) Roger Staubach
14) Terry Bradshaw
15) Ben Rothlisberger
16) Russell Wilson *
17) Jim Kelly
18) Randall Cunningham
19) Troy Aikman
20) Warren Moon
Honorable mention: Tony Romo, Joe Namath, Phillip Rivers, Eli Manning
I listed mine here in according to the ones I've seen play or had research to some extend. Its so really hard to count those I've never seen play or not enough research tools available; ala YA Tittle, Jonny Unitas, Sammy Baugh, Fran Tarketon, Otto Graham, Sid Luckman Bart Starr etc. etc.
both were league MVP's ..and Warner is in the NFL record books.
Where do the Cowboys QBs rank among the Best All time QBs in NFL History:
( * still active)
1) Tom Brady *
2) Joe Montana
3) Peyton Manning
4) Aaron Rodgers*
5) Drew Brees *
6) Dan Marino
7) John Elway
8) Brett Favre
9) Dan Fouts
10) Pat Mahomes *
11 Steve Young
12 Kurt Warner
13) Roger Staubach
14) Terry Bradshaw
15) Ben Rothlisberger
16) Russell Wilson *
17) Jim Kelly
18) Randall Cunningham
19) Troy Aikman
20) Warren Moon
Honorable mention: Tony Romo, Joe Namath, Phillip Rivers, Eli Manning
I listed mine here in according to the ones I've seen play or had research to some extend. Its so really hard to count those I've never seen play or not enough research tools available; ala YA Tittle, Jonny Unitas, Sammy Baugh, Fran Tarketon, Otto Graham, Sid Luckman Bart Starr etc. etc.
'quickccc' - you stated you never seen Fran Tarkenton play---
but the last 10 years of his career are simultaneous with Staubach's 10 of his 11 seasons. Tarkenton played for the Giants and Vikings during the late 60's through the late 70's. From 1969-71 Fran went head-to-head with Roger twice a year with New York, and 6 times with Minnesota from 1972-78.
Tarkenton is in the NFL HOF. Is playing resume` is just as easily available as Staubach's.
If fact all the QBs that played "before your time" - their statistics are attainable.
Here's two places where to go research NFL games, players, and records:
Pro Football Reference
The Football Database
Roger Staubach needs to be much higher. Like in the 5-10 range. He won 2 SBs, played in 2 more, won 4 NFC championship games, and won a total of 11 playoff games. Having Brett Favre, Dan Fouts, Steve Young ahead of Roger is crazy. Too many fans over-value stats and not enough value to winning championships and leadership. Every criticism I’ve ever heard of Roger is about stats when teams didn’t throw the ball as much.
My top 10:
1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. Peyton Manning
4. John Elway
5. Terry Bradshaw
6. Roger Staubach
7. Aaron Rodgers
8. Dan Marino
9. Drew Brees
10. Pat Mahomes (he will probably be top 3 in 5 more years)
I put Troy around 12-15. Romo? Sorry, not even honorable mention. Loved him but there’s too many QBs that achieved way more.
What do you mean --"actual eyeball test". ? If you mean film highlights and game footage -they are out there too.I like research tools that offer me more of the actual eye ball test, rather than just stats, records
I believe more in what I can see in a full game and game to game sense capacity. .
Where's Dinucci! Where's Dalton? @PAPPYDOG is gonna be mad that you left out the Red Rider!!!Where do the Cowboys QBs rank among the Best All time QBs in NFL History:
( * still active)
1) Tom Brady *
2) Joe Montana
3) Peyton Manning
4) Aaron Rodgers*
5) Drew Brees *
6) Dan Marino
7) John Elway
8) Brett Favre
9) Dan Fouts
10) Pat Mahomes *
11 Steve Young
12 Kurt Warner
13) Roger Staubach
14) Terry Bradshaw
15) Ben Rothlisberger
16) Russell Wilson *
17) Jim Kelly
18) Randall Cunningham
19) Troy Aikman
20) Warren Moon
Honorable mention: Tony Romo, Joe Namath, Phillip Rivers, Eli Manning
I listed mine here in according to the ones I've seen play or had research to some extend. Its so really hard to count those I've never seen play or not enough research tools available; ala YA Tittle, Jonny Unitas, Sammy Baugh, Fran Tarketon, Otto Graham, Sid Luckman Bart Starr etc. etc.
1. Brady (33 playoff wins)
2. Montana (16 playoff wins)
3. Elway (14 playoff wins)
4. Payton Manning (14 playoff wins)
5. Bradshaw (14 playoff wins)
6. Staubach (11 playoff wins)
7. Marino (8 playoff wins)
8. Rodgers (11 playoff wins)
9. Aikman (11 playoff wins)
10. Mahomes (6 playoff wins)
Mahomes will likely keep ascending and eventually wind up second on the list.
Staubach also missed 4 prime years (age 27-30) while serving in the Navy then only played for 7 years after that.Roger Staubach needs to be much higher. Like in the 5-10 range. He won 2 SBs, played in 2 more, won 4 NFC championship games, and won a total of 11 playoff games. Having Brett Favre, Dan Fouts, Steve Young ahead of Roger is crazy. Too many fans over-value stats and not enough value to winning championships and leadership. Every criticism I’ve ever heard of Roger is about stats when teams didn’t throw the ball as much.
My top 10:
1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. Peyton Manning
4. John Elway
5. Terry Bradshaw
6. Roger Staubach
7. Aaron Rodgers
8. Dan Marino
9. Drew Brees
10. Pat Mahomes (he will probably be top 3 in 5 more years)
I put Troy around 12-15. Romo? Sorry, not even honorable mention. Loved him but there’s too many QBs that achieved way more.
looks good, I too was thinking they overlooked Bradshaw.Roger Staubach needs to be much higher. Like in the 5-10 range. He won 2 SBs, played in 2 more, won 4 NFC championship games, and won a total of 11 playoff games. Having Brett Favre, Dan Fouts, Steve Young ahead of Roger is crazy. Too many fans over-value stats and not enough value to winning championships and leadership. Every criticism I’ve ever heard of Roger is about stats when teams didn’t throw the ball as much.
My top 10:
1. Tom Brady
2. Joe Montana
3. Peyton Manning
4. John Elway
5. Terry Bradshaw
6. Roger Staubach
7. Aaron Rodgers
8. Dan Marino
9. Drew Brees
10. Pat Mahomes (he will probably be top 3 in 5 more years)
I put Troy around 12-15. Romo? Sorry, not even honorable mention. Loved him but there’s too many QBs that achieved way more.
Roger Staubach is way better than Mahomes.Where do the Cowboys QBs rank among the Best All time QBs in NFL History:
( * still active)
1) Tom Brady *
2) Joe Montana
3) Peyton Manning
4) Aaron Rodgers*
5) Drew Brees *
6) Dan Marino
7) John Elway
8) Brett Favre
9) Dan Fouts
10) Pat Mahomes *
11 Steve Young
12 Kurt Warner
13) Roger Staubach
14) Terry Bradshaw
15) Ben Rothlisberger
16) Russell Wilson *
17) Jim Kelly
18) Randall Cunningham
19) Troy Aikman
20) Warren Moon
Honorable mention: Tony Romo, Joe Namath, Phillip Rivers, Eli Manning
I listed mine here in according to the ones I've seen play or had research to some extend. Its so really hard to count those I've never seen play or not enough research tools available; ala YA Tittle, Jonny Unitas, Sammy Baugh, Fran Tarketon, Otto Graham, Sid Luckman Bart Starr etc. etc.