NFL Blames Lions Not Refs

[DripTooHard]

70 reported, 68 thought he reported. It was still deception by Detroit.

GMFB on NFLN thing about it still. Just a bunch of whiners about it.

Time to move on to Washington game and winning the NFCE and the 2nd seed.

Yeah GMFB forgot that the refs have to announce who is eligible regards of the trickery by the Lions.

 

[CowboyStar88]

My read of Dan Campbell’s and Tyler Decker’s post comments is that they were being coy. They were still in the heat of the moment and wanted to seem like they were unfairly victimized. They weren’t giving up all the details.

Sorta like a guy that gets caught sleeping with a sexbot and then telling his wife “I never slept with another woman.”

This was the exact read I had in it as well, and that’s an Interesting analogy.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I think the ref reported the number the Lions wanted him to report because they didn't understand the rules which state that the ALL have to be reported not just the one you're trying to play footsy with the refs on.

Of course they did. The Lions wanted him to report the number they reported lol. That's where the deceit comes in at lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

70 reported, 68 thought he reported. It was still deception by Detroit.

GMFB on NFLN thing about it still. Just a bunch of whiners about it.

Time to move on to Washington game and winning the NFCE and the 2nd seed.

Of course it is. Detroit successfully confused the refs and the refs penalized them for it.

 

[silvernblu]

The NFL is being immature about this but typically they always do when it comes to officiating. At the end of the day he made an error. A mistake. No shame in making a mistake. It's when the NFL doesn't own up to it and in this case just making excuses. Lions tried to get cute and sneaky and it screwed them but it's not their job to officiate the game. They got screwed. That's become a part of the NFL though.

I don't cry for them because you make your own luck. You threw 2 interceptions. You didn't play well. Had you played better you wouldn't have needed that 2 point conversion that you didn't even need to begin with. Your coach could've bailed out and calmed things down but stuck with wanting to go for 2.

It’s also wrong to say the penalty cost them a victory. If the Cowboys were told 68 was eligible then they obviously would have covered him.

 

[Vtwin]

People are asserting that the Lions "would not lie about something like this." I would certainly call that "defending the Lions." Of course they would lie.. What would they gain by coming clean about trying to cheat?

You're going to have to provide the evidence to back up your very vague claim.

I haven't seen anyone suggest the play should have stood, which would be defending the Lions.

 

[CowboyStar88]

I think the ref reported the number the Lions wanted him to report because they didn't understand the rules which state that the ALL have to be reported not just the one you're trying to play footsy with the refs on.

I think Ronnie is onto something here. I think you’re right. It kinda makes DC statement of you can’t have 2 report eligible have some clarity. I assume that was the explanation given to DC, and that prompted the statement of “we told the refs about the play before the game”, only to find out Allen wasn’t apart of that meeting in which he probably would’ve told DC you can’t do that.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

“You’re not going to believe this, but the NFL is blaming the Lions for a blown call that cost them a win vs. the Cowboys on Saturday night.

According to Pro Football Talk’s Mike Florio, the NFL has no plans to change the rules on players reporting as eligible after Saturday night’s fiasco in Dallas. And it’s not placing blame on the refs.

“Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the NFL does not plan to change the procedure for players reporting as eligible. The league views the situation as an effort by the Lions to engage in deception and gamesmanship that backfired,” Florio said.

“Basically, the Lions wanted the Cowboys to think Skipper was reporting as eligible and that Decker was not. Which would have caused the Cowboys to cover Skipper, not Decker, when the play unfolded. The problem is that, in trying to confuse the Cowboys, the Lions confused Allen.”


Full Story Here:
https://www.clickondetroit.com/spor...call-on-2-point-play-vs-cowboys-not-the-refs/

Good. In short, Scott Campbell was trying to cheat, but he got caught. That doesn't happen often. I'm sure you guys remember the playoff game against Seattle in which they needed to kick a field goal to probably win, but Romo (as the field goal holder) bobbled the snap, then tried to run for the touchdown, but was tackled. What a lot of people don't know is that that play was the result of the Seahawks cheating. Kickers prepare balls for kicking by pressing them and manipulating them in their hands. The Seahawks made certain that the field goal try would be done with a brand-new slick ball, and not one of the ones the kicker gotten ready. Their cheating worked. It helped them get their win, and it made Romo look foolish. They didn't get caught with that rotten trick, but I'm glad Scott Campbell was caught. I respected the man before this game. I admired how he's turned Detroit's program around. His failed attempt to cheat has put a black mark on his record.

 

[BigD5]

I can’t believe I’m about to say this… but here it goes…

I 1000000% agree with the NFL here

The Lions tried some funny business to try and trick Dallas into not knowing who was eligible. Which, is kinda bs if you ask me. Why couldn’t they just line up and try to beat them straight up? So instead they tried to blur the lines on cheating and it didn’t work in their favor

Boohoo lions. Tough shhhhhhhh

 

[The Quest for Six]

This is false the head ref never had that conversation with DC.

what part of "refs", plural didn't you comprehend?

 

[Nova]

I don't know the rules about that. I know the refs have to convey the right number but if they don't then that's on the refs or the Lions? The rules may defend the officials here. Lions took a risk confusing the ref and it bit them. Rightfully so. But it bit them because the ref got confused.

I wouldn’t say there are any “rules” about how the information is conveyed.

But the lions apparently reported verbally without using the hand signal.

That’s legal, but it makes it more susceptible to miscommunication.

 

[jazzcat22]

Of course it is. Detroit successfully confused the refs and the refs penalized them for it.

NO, the refs did not fall for it, is the right answer. Therefore they were penalized within the RULES. Something Detroit tried to circumvent.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

How is sending 3 OL to the head ref to create confusion doing everything right? How is hearing 70 has reported as eligible over the PA and running the play anyways to an ineligible wr doing everything right?

I think what people are saying is quit absolving Detroit of blame, THEY screwed up just as much in this scenario.

Oh I don't absolve Detroit of blame. It just seems like people are absolving the refs of blame. While saying things like the refs "assumed" or was "Confused". That's just unacceptable.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

NO, the refs did not fall for it, is the right answer. Therefore they were penalized within the RULES. Something Detroit tried to circumvent.

The refs did fall for it they failed to report 68 was eligible.

 

[CowboyStar88]

what part of "refs", plural didn't you comprehend?

What part of Allen wasn’t part of that conversation don’t you comprehend? The HEAD ref who made the call? I think that tidbit of information is important to point out, don’t you?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

People are asserting that the Lions "would not lie about something like this." I would certainly call that "defending the Lions." Of course they would lie.. What would they gain by coming clean about trying to cheat?

Who's defending the Lions?

 

[jazzcat22]

The refs did fall for it they failed to report 68 was eligible.

I am not going to talk to a brick wall anymore. Not worth my time. You have NO proof. But go ahead, hate away.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I can't believe some Dallas fans can't see this for what is. An attempt at some gamesmanship combined with an error by the official lead to a very confused play that was ultimately and rightfully disallowed.

The Lions screwed up. The officials screwed up. Both of those things are equally true.

p.s. I don't see anyone here "defending" the Lions. Acknowledging the whole picture does not equal defending the Lions.

I don't understand why people don't see it this way. They both equally screwed up....it's ok to admit that. But people feel by saying that they are discrediting the Cowboys W.

 

[vig454]

It’s looking like the ref got the wrong number but the nfl is really stretching it with the gamesmanship angle. This one that nobody is going to agree on. The good news is we should never hear from the refs are out to get Dallas crowd again . The funny part of the whole thing is Allen was informed about this very play and told Campbell he was good with it.

The Lions could have corrected the refs when 70 was announced as an eligible receiver but they did not. This is on the Lions.

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

I don't know the rules about that. I know the refs have to convey the right number but if they don't then that's on the refs or the Lions? The rules may defend the officials here. Lions took a risk confusing the ref and it bit them. Rightfully so. But it bit them because the ref got confused.

Lamar Jackson tripped over a ref. They’re part of it .

The only question is why did the lions let the play go on with the wring number announced? The fact he got the wrong number isn’t shocking. They ran 3 guys at him and 70 was the guy the entire time. They called a trip on the wrong team. It makes sense to get it wrong, it doesn’t make sense to snap it with the wrong number announced