NFL Blames Lions Not Refs

[Brax]

This is true.. however when they get caught most teams and coaches admit their mistake and move on. Maybe Campbell will to at some point but I get he's too emotional right now to own his mistake. They tried to be clever and found out they weren't as clever as they thought. It happens..

Ronnie I agree but post game DC said he went over this play step by step with officials, I don’t think we will ever know the real story

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

No they did not screw up. Detroit did.

How did they not screw up if the Lions reported 68 and the refs said 70? How is that not a screw up?

 

[RonnieT24]

Because there's no edge. The whole point of the play is to get an edge on the defense. If you run over and tell them to correct the number there's no longer an edge and the play is a fail.

Of course the deception was intentional lol. That's my whole point. They attempted to deceive and it failed them. That's how these type of plays work. Because of deceit. Once you have to make a correction to your play due to the refs incompetence the play no longer works.

But you HAVE to tell them to correct it or you risk drawing a flag for using an ineligible receiver. If the Lions were the only people in the whole stadium that knew #68 was eligible then the play was illegal. Is that really difficult to grasp? You can't mask it or hide it from the defense. Period. That's the rule. If you try it and get away with it.. good for you but if you get caught man up and say we tried to trick the other team and it backfired. I'd have more respect for them if they just did that.

 

[CowboyStar88]

I guess 68 should have taken the refs mic and announced he's eligible himself then, right since the ref was incompetent.

I mean the coaches tell the refs a when the clock is wrong all the time. You mean they couldn’t stop the ref and tell them they reported the wrong number? You know exactly why they didn’t correct it.

 

[The Quest for Six]

I can't believe some Dallas fans want to defend the Lions on this When it is very clear, and obvious Detroit tried to cheat and it failed.

The refs knew the play prior to the game as Campbell stated, how did they cheat again???

 

[Bagman]

It’s looking like the ref got the wrong number but the nfl is really stretching it with the gamesmanship angle. This one that nobody is going to agree on. The good news is we should never hear from the refs are out to get Dallas crowd again . The funny part of the whole thing is Allen was informed about this very play and told Campbell he was good with it.

No you're wrong. Allen was not informed. He wasn't at the pregame meeting. And it was just exactly that..... deception and gamesmanship. It was cheating the Cowboys by announcing over the PA that #70 was eligible. No announcement of #68 was made. Can't cover a guy who's supposed to stay in and block

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I don’t think this is cot (sorry about the large type couldn’t get to normal on my phones )

A furious Dan Campbell says he explained 'everything' about the Taylor Decker trick play to officials BEFORE Lions - Cowboys​

“Campbell said he told the officiating crew about the possibility of the play before the game, but Florio reports Allen wasn’t present during that meeting.”

 

[nightrain]

The Ref should have tapped the brakes on the play to sort out the Lions running 3 OL at him.

Someone posted a soundbite of the Ref saying #70 is reporting as eligible. I assume all OL have to report as eligible if they are intending to be out on a route?

It's a 50-50 culpability play. I could never in my wildest dreams thought of seeing the Cowboys on the winning side of such a clusterfudge.

Having a good laugh today at all the ex players who masquerade as analysts chiming in on this one.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

If the teams were reversed you be saying the refs screwed Dallas again and the NFL is out to get Dallas. You know you would. You are so bent with hate and envy because Belichick won so much. Got news for you, all teams bend the rules for an advantage it’s always been that way.

Cowboy fans feel the need to defend this crap because they think this game devalues our W. It doesn't. I don't care what happened a WIN is a WIN. You make your own luck.

 

[Brax]

The article specifically says the opposite. So where did you hear that? (just a question since I haven't heard that).

It’s what he said in his post game press briefing you can look it up pretty easily

 

[DripTooHard]

That's not the rule lol. The rule is you have to report to the official. The official then reports that number to the defense. It doesn't say anything about what if the official reports the wrong number.

Again you don’t know what was said by 68 do you? What if he told Allen happy new year and walked away, while 70 actually declared? Do you have audio proof of what Decker said?

 

[jazzcat22]

That's not the rule lol. The rule is you have to report to the official. The official then reports that number to the defense. It doesn't say anything about what if the official reports the wrong number.

But he did not report the wrong number. Watch the film. 70 came running making a beeline to the ref. Brushing his jersey to say...I am reporting as eligible. As where the other 2 OL were just standing there doing nothing. Sure Decker said he reported, but merely saying it in a very loud stadium does not mean the ref heard him.

Are you hurt that Dallas won or something?

 

[CowboyStar88]

So why would they do that lol? If they are trying to deceive the Cowboys why would they correct a mistake so now the Cowboys can cover 68 lol? It makes no sense lol.

Because it a penalty? So maybe you might wanna make sure you don’t get a penalty? That would be one reason why you’d correct it.

 

[jazzcat22]

How did they not screw up if the Lions reported 68 and the refs said 70? How is that not a screw up?

ONCE AGAIN ... 70 reported, 68 did not, in the normal accepted way.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The Ref should have tapped the brakes on the play to sort out the Lions running 3 OL at him.

Someone posted a soundbite of the Ref saying #70 is reporting as eligible. I assume all OL have to report as eligible if they are intending to be out on a route?

It's a 50-50 culpability play. I could never in my wildest dreams thought of seeing the Cowboys on the winning side of such a clusterfudge.

Having a good laugh today at all the ex players who masquerade as analysts chiming in on this one.

Yeah everyone is PISSED lol. No one is taking the angle of the refs screwed up as well as the Lions. It's either or lol.

 

[CowboyStar88]

The refs knew the play prior to the game as Campbell stated, how did they cheat again???

This is false the head ref never had that conversation with DC.

 

[RonnieT24]

Ronnie I agree but post game DC said he went over this play step by step with officials, I don’t think we will ever know the real story

No we won't. Let's say for the sake of argument the ref announced the wrong guy. The operative word being ANNOUNCED.. As in notified everybody in the stadium that #70 was eligible and by extension #68 was not. What were the Lions coaches doing when they heard the announcement? My guess is they were celebrating because they thought they'd gotten away with one. Because they didn't understand the rule. I guarantee you that if Campbell went over this "play" step by step and explained that "the goal is to get you to announce the wrong guy and not announce the right guy so the defense will leave him wide open" the refs would have explained to him that that was illegal.

 

[Brax]

Cowboy fans feel the need to defend this crap because they think this game devalues our W. It doesn't. I don't care what happened a WIN is a WIN. You make your own luck.

There are bad calls and missed calls every game probably the worst call I ever saw was the PI in the New Orleans playoff game against the Rams I think.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Because it a penalty? So maybe you might wanna make sure you don’t get a penalty? That would be one reason why you’d correct it.

It's a penalty because they gave the right number and the official "ASSUMED" it was 70? I get you guys want to defend this because the Cowboys are on the right side of it but I'd be PISSED if the Cowboys did everything right and the refs screwed up by "ASSUMING".

 

[Adreme]

This has blown up for 3 reasons:

1. The size of the audience who saw it and the importance of the game.
2. The seemingly insane amount of bad calls this season deciding games.
3. The outright dishonesty and insultingly dumb excuses the NFL keeps making.

1 and 2 speak for themselves but 3 is why this isn’t a 1 day story. The fact that they tried to say 68 never reported and 70 did was laughable. We had video of Goff telling 68 to report, 68 going up to the ref and the ref signaling that the report was good all while 70 is on the opposite side of the field.

Now this is their second attempt to cover it up and it still sounds stupid. Just come out and say you got it wrong, he thought it was 70, and it was a mistake. Anything else is an insult to the intelligence of the fans and just makes it worse.