NFL Network is calling the 4th down spot controversial

[TwoDeep3]

The angle where Collinsworth called it a first down, after the play was being reviewed, looked like the guy got to the 30.

But the nanosecond they used the other replay where you see him catch the ball and is stuffed backward by the defender, it was clear and Collinsworth flipped on what he initially thought.

NFLN can say what they think. It was not a bad call. The bad call came when the refs suggested he got the BALL to the 30.

He did not.

 

[boysfanindc]

Bull ****, Dez caught a TD against the giants and refs ruled a TD but then over turned it saying his fingers was on the goal line. It was not clear as his gives was white if his fingers was up or laying across the line. We lost that game.

That fumble was clearly a fumble from the angle they showed after the ruling.

Again, it was not only about whether the ball came loose, which it did. It was about whether he was down by contact at the time it did. If you could definitely see he was not down by contact at that time in between 6 players, Superman wants his instant X-ray vision back.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Again, it was not only about whether the ball came loose, which it did. It was about whether he was down by contact at the time it did. If you could definitely see he was not down by contact at that time in between 6 players, Superman wants his instant X-ray vision back.

Did you watch the replay of the angle after the refs said play stands? It clearly shows he wasn't down and the ball came out, stop it. Go back and watch the replay

 

[Hardline]

Not only did the ball get to the first down marker. The receivers body at no point made it to the first down marker. The only way this is a controversial call is if they ruled that catch a first down.

 

[gimmesix]

There was nothing controversy at all about it. The Giants knew he was short. That's why they ran up to the line and tried to run a play rather than calling a timeout.

Teams do this on any close call that might be challenged. It simply means they aren't sure enough to chance it. So I don't think the Giants knew for sure that he was short, but I think they knew that it was a close call.

 

[boysfanindc]

Did you watch the replay of the angle after the refs said play stands? It clearly shows he wasn't down and the ball came out, stop it. Go back and watch the replay

Ok Superman.

 

[tyke1doe]

I really don't see how it's in question at all. Every angle showed that he didn't make it to the 30.

Not the overhead angle. That made it look like he got the first down. But that was a very deceptive angle. Not the best one to trust. The angles from cameras on the ground showed he wasn't even close to the first down.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Ok Superman.

Haha dude if you can't have a discussion without name calling don't reply to my comments again.

 

[boysfanindc]

Haha dude if you can't have a discussion without name calling don't reply to my comments again.

Someone calls me Superman I would be flattered, just complementing you on your amazing eye sight.

 

[tyke1doe]

I agree. That's why I was surprised they presented it using the word controversy. Why bring it up at all? And that was a clear cut TD by Dez too.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but why are fans still surprised?
The Cowboys are TOP DRAW!!! Their fans tune in win or lose to hear what is being said about them.
And they react louder and more vigorously than ANY OTHER fan base.
I mean, Colin Cowherd said as much. He said during production meetings, the bosses will say, "What can we say about the Cowboys" because the Cowboys generate clicks, ratings, responses, etc.
Cowboys win? Yeah, that's going to generate interest.
Cowboys win after controversial call? That's going to generate MAJOR feedback.

At some point, we've got to understand this. It may add years to our lives. Just saying.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Someone calls me Superman I would be flattered, just complementing you on your amazing eye sight.

Ya ok

 

[tyke1doe]

Is the NFL Network based in Nyc?

I think they're out of Culver City, California.

 

[boysfanindc]

Please don't take this the wrong way, but why are fans still surprised?
The Cowboys are TOP DRAW!!! Their fans tune in win or lose to hear what is being said about them.
And they react louder and more vigorously than ANY OTHER fan base.
I mean, Colin Cowherd said as much. He said during production meetings, the bosses will say, "What can we say about the Cowboys" because the Cowboys generate clicks, ratings, responses, etc.
Cowboys win? Yeah, that's going to generate interest.
Cowboys win after controversial call? That's going to generate MAJOR feedback.

At some point, we've got to understand this. It may add years to our lives. Just saying.

Your exactly right, was thinking about this when watching NFL network this morning, with everything that happened in the league yesterday, 50% of the coverage was about the the Boys (both good/bad).

Patriots went off yesterday, a heck of a game in Seattle etc and the Boys where most of the coverage. I am sure it rubs the non Boys fans in the wrong way. Not that I care.

But it certainly draws viewership from those that love the Boys and those who hate them.

 

[pugilist]

Not only did the ball get to the first down marker. The receivers body at no point made it to the first down marker. The only way this is a controversial call is if they ruled that catch a first down.

I can't remember if they ever officially signaled 1st down, but due to where the line judge initially spotted the ball it was going to be a 1st, hence the challenge and subsequent review

 

[VACowboy]

at this stage of the season they are all big games. The word "trap game" should not even be used, you have to win no matter who you are playing.

Nah. If Romo's on the field, it's only a big game if 1) it takes place in week 17, and 2) the division title is on the line.

 

[mahoneybill]

I don't know what they were watching but that ball wasn't at the 30 yard line at any point. They even brought in a NFL official who explained it was the right call, but implied that the ball may have been at the 30 yard line before McClain made contact. Bull! That ball was nowhere near the 30 before or after contact.

They also called Dez's TD controversial. The official said the ball moved in his hands but it wasn't enough to overturn it? I saw the ball move at one point, but Dez clearly had control and the defender knew it by his reaction. Why not just give the Cowboys credit without implying that two great plays in a comeback win are controversial? At least ESPN's Mike and Mike gave the Cowboys credit for a great win.

They like BSPN only like controversy

 

[Longboysfan]

This was NFL Network, but there is some hate there too, but with better coverage/reporting.

Because they did not cover the game and with the high ratings points NBC got - NFL Network wanted some of their own.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I don't think the ball ever made it to the 30, even in the air. It was a clear cut stop to me from the start. I don't even know how that official could spot it like he did. Great play by RoMac. Not one mention of that.

The second he caught it, I said no way that is a first down, then I saw the ref put it at the 30 and I yelled that is horse,,,,,. There was no way he was over the 30

 

[mahoneybill]

After the way we got raped all night by the refs, they are complaining about the spot?

You could see from the international space station that he was short.

Even heard that a couple of Martians said " no way we ever want to invade that planet" as those people are crazy - referring to the refs.....

 

[mahoneybill]

That could easily have been a first down. Easily. All he would have had to do was stretch his hands out, but Ro made the tackle, AND made it in a way that his hand hit the ball too on the OPPOSITE side of the receivers body, and then used his strength to counter the guys momentum and push him back. Yet no media members gives him any credit. There would have been a ton of tackles that would have got it wrong, be it leg tackles, pushing him on side, etc. It was the perfect tackle for the perfect moment

And another reason we should sign him to a multi year deal. He reminds me of Butkus hitting someone.... When hit they stop and move backwards.....