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TheCount;1985510 said:
The Lions say they won't trade him, and have said so several times now. So I doubt he moves.

I think we should take a look at the Bryant Johnson's and D.J. Hackets that are left.

I still can't believe the Raiders paid Walker, Randy Moss money.

T.O. is going to want 11 mil a year when it comes his time, holy crap.

Screw it then let him walk and sign RW next year.
 

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Hostile;1985513 said:
Not sure, but Detroit will either have to trade him, or lose him via Free Agency because they will not be able to pay him. They ahve too much tied up in WR with the contracts they've given Calvin Johnson, Mike Furrey and Sean McDonald.

I know for a fact he wants to come to Dallas. I think he's a perfect fit here.

The bottom line is you're point Hos.

Det can say whatever they want to right now but in 2009 Roy Williams wants to come back to Texas. Now, does Roy Williams want to be in the best WR, the most marketable player this city in the South has had or does he want to try and chase a career as being a pretty good WR for the Texans?

J Jones may have to wait but if what R Williams says is true then sooner or later we'll see if he really wants to be in Texas.

btw Cason in the 2nd sounds nice to me :)
 

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cowboyrock;1985290 said:
Here's the problem with your thinking. we had those players last year and still got beat in the first round again.if we bring the same team back this coming season. we are going to get beat again. the team is not good enough to win a championship.

Of course it is... it may well be that the only thing this team is lacking right now is playoff toughness, and losing a coupla disappointing games the last two seasons in the playoffs may help give the Boys that toughness...



this is not about Walker. this is about Jerry not bringing in any new talent,

Actually, this seems to be about your being clueless... the Cowboys had not one, not two, but three Pro Bowl players who were free agents this offseason, and they have made sure that they didn't lose any of them... it doesn't make sense to go throwing money at other teams' free agents if it means you let your own good players go...

The Cowboys' top priority this offseason was to keep as much of their nucleus intact as possible... they now have 15 players on their roster who have played in the Pro Bowl in the past two seasons, something no other team can claim... indeed, I wonder if any team has ever been able to claim so many incumbent Pro Bowlers in an offseason...

You seem to be one of them there Chicken Littles, but your cries of despair don't make any sense, because the sky is NOT falling...
 

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theogt;1985302 said:
Jiminy Cricket. That's absurd. I was slightly bummed until I read that.

My reaction exactly-- I was quite disappointed to learn Walker was going elsewhere, until I saw what the Faiders paid him...

Amazing, just amazing... so, anybody got Bryant Johnson's agent's number??
 

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Teague31;1985319 said:
i think jerry has done a great job... 13 pro bowlers on the roster and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM is coming back.

15, actually... Mat McBriar and Zach Thomas were Pro Bowlers in 2006...
 

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Sorry, I may be an idiot but I don't see why we would even think about drafting a receiver or go for a free agent at the position.

1. We have one superstar, TO.
2. We possibly have another, who is currently banged up but is a hard work TG.
3. We have a superstar Tight End JW.
4. We have a decent #2 or 3 - Crayton
5. We have a good skill guy - Hurd
6. We have a decent very tall guy - Miles
7. We have a possible burner - Stanbach
8. We will have a ton on UDFA's and others who will be released after FA in camp competing.

I could have almost seen a Moss signing. TO + Moss is kinda insane to ponder if the personalities would have worked. But thats not on the table. There is no one with the possible exception of Roy Williams that is on the table.

What draft prospect is less risk/more upside than what we have by such a wide margin that you cripple other areas that need work... like CB, Def. Line, Safety, (Maybe RB - Although that is a position that seems to fill up easily IMHO)

Javon Walker was not a bargain for us at 4 million or even 2 million. 9 million is insane. Paying a Day 1 draft pick is insane.

If TO goes down, there is nobody that we are going to get that can replace them. If anyone else goes down, we have options. Those current options have played with Romo for 2 years. They are beginning to know the routes. A rookie or FA wont. Unless they are elite... just not worth it...

But... But... But... TO and TG are old and wearing out.. Well a rookie is not going to be able to replace them this year any better than what we have. In later years there will always be some elite receiver on the block. And there probably won't be a salary cap and Jerry will have his 80,000 seat stadium money.

Please quit thinking about a receiver. We are full up at the hotel. Lets spend Jerry's money on smart things.

Sorry for the rant.
 

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tskyler;1985606 said:
Sorry, I may be an idiot but I don't see why we would even think about drafting a receiver or go for a free agent at the position.

1. We have one superstar, TO.
2. We possibly have another, who is currently banged up but is a hard work TG.
3. We have a superstar Tight End JW.
4. We have a decent #2 or 3 - Crayton
5. We have a good skill guy - Hurd
6. We have a decent very tall guy - Miles
7. We have a possible burner - Stanbach
8. We will have a ton on UDFA's and others who will be released after FA in camp competing.

I could have almost seen a Moss signing. TO + Moss is kinda insane to ponder if the personalities would have worked. But thats not on the table. There is no one with the possible exception of Roy Williams that is on the table.

What draft prospect is less risk/more upside than what we have by such a wide margin that you cripple other areas that need work... like CB, Def. Line, Safety, (Maybe RB - Although that is a position that seems to fill up easily IMHO)

Javon Walker was not a bargain for us at 4 million or even 2 million. 9 million is insane. Paying a Day 1 draft pick is insane.

If TO goes down, there is nobody that we are going to get that can replace them. If anyone else goes down, we have options. Those current options have played with Romo for 2 years. They are beginning to know the routes. A rookie or FA wont. Unless they are elite... just not worth it...

But... But... But... TO and TG are old and wearing out.. Well a rookie is not going to be able to replace them this year any better than what we have. In later years there will always be some elite receiver on the block. And there probably won't be a salary cap and Jerry will have his 80,000 seat stadium money.

Please quit thinking about a receiver. We are full up at the hotel. Lets spend Jerry's money on smart things.

Sorry for the rant.

Hurd is a spare. Hes good on ST but hes essentially a small possession reciever. I just don't see him being much better than he already is which makes him infinitely replaceable. TG is probably toast. He is bone on bone at this point.

That gives us

TO
Crayton
Stanback
Miles

as locks.

I want a top rookie filling that last roster spot.
 

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kinda glad we didn't get this guy i'd be surprised if his knee holds up and he returns to his old form which is what it seems OAK is betting the farm on with this deal
 

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Some Raiders fan seriously needs to pull a Saving Silverman, for you movie lovers, and kidnap Al Davis and, unlike the movie, NEVER let him go. He is a madman. This very well could be the most absurd Pro Football contract ever.
 

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alancdc;1985702 said:
Some Raiders fan seriously needs to pull a Saving Silverman, for you movie lovers, and kidnap Al Davis and, unlike the movie, NEVER let him go. He is a madman. This very well could be the most absurd Pro Football contract ever.

Keeping Fitz in Arizona without restructuring his contract is far worse.
 

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noletime95;1985280 said:
Do you seriously think Jerry should have shelled out that kind of Jack for Walker? Seriously?


I'm sure he does. Stupidity is a dangerous thing.
 

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Chocolate Lab;1985307 said:
Who did the Giants add in FA last year?

Exactly. But, seriously, don't waste your time on those incapable of thinking on any level that doesn't involve turning the salary cap off, like in Madden.
 

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AdamJT13;1985412 said:
There's nothing to suggest that's even remotely true. Super Bowl championship teams almost always win because they improved from within, not because they made some big splash in free agency -- and certainly not early in free agency, when guys are getting overpaid left and right.

In fact, of the past seven Super Bowl champions, NONE of them signed a free agent within the first 10 days of free agency who made any real impact whatsoever.

The 2007 Giants (who went 8-8 and lost in the first round in the previous season) didn't sign ANY free agents until March 27, and the biggest free agent they signed all offseason was Kawika Mitchell -- for less than $1 million per season.

The 2006 Colts signed exactly one unrestricted free agent all offseason (Adam Vinatieri), and that happened 11 days into free agency.

The 2005 Steelers, 2004 Patriots and 2003 Patriots didn't sign a single starter during free agency.

The 2002 Buccaneers didn't sign anyone significant until March 22 -- three weeks into free agency (and that was Michael Pittman, who has never even rushed for 1,000 yards).

The 2001 Patriots didn't sign anyone significant until March 16 -- two weeks into free agency (when they got Mike Vrabel).

The last Super Bowl champion who had signed any signficant free agent within the first 10 days of free agency was the 2000 Ravens, who signed Shannon Sharpe on the fifth day of free agency.

OUCH. Smacking them down with a heavy dose of reality and common sense. You sir should be commended. :)
 

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And at those numbers, we are well off.

Spend that money, Al.

It will make it easier on us when Draft Day comes and you are out of cap money and have to trade out of your #4 pick..

to us..

:devil:

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