NFL not looking for perfection in officiating

[Xeven]

Leaves it open to rigging.

 

[MarcusRock]

With so many penalties being judgment calls, it's almost impossible to achieve perfection anyways. Getting most right while keeping the flow of the game going well is a good goal. There will be bad/no calls all the time because there has to be. There's no way 7 officials can watch 11 matchups while looking for all the things they need to like possession, forward progress, holding, where to spot the ball, etc. Also, controversy sells. So when you don't have enough officials on the field it's just statistics that some big ones will be missed and get people all up in arms. People would realize this if they didn't go straight to victim mode every time a call doesn't go their way and then get creative with boogeyman ideas like the great Goodell/Refs Syndicate that may or may nor involve Mara form the Giants. Lol.

 

[JustChip]

Im not sure that plays into it . Most fans can’t even name a handful of officials in the league.

It’s more about sour grapes when calls don’t go their way or are missed , etc.

Most calls aren’t argumentative .

I don’t know about that regarding judgement calls. Most judgement calls can be argued because, you know, they’re based on one’s judgement. Judgement calls will always be imperfect, which is why I whole-heartedly supported eliminating the receiver forced out judgement on a sideline catch (of course, I was a big fan of it in 1975 on the last drive before the Hail Mary play ).

 

[CWR]

The best way to achieve your goals is to define your goals based on your actions after you do them.

It's incredibly effective.

 

[MarcusRock]

I don’t know about that regarding judgement calls. Most judgement calls can be argued because, you know, they’re based on one’s judgement. Judgement calls will always be imperfect, which is why I whole-heartedly supported eliminating the receiver forced out judgement on a sideline catch (of course, I was a big fan of it in 1975 on the last drive before the Hail Mary play ).

 

[JayFord]

they dont need to be perfect but somethings are right infront of their eyes

missed holding? fine
missed PI? fine

but when something like a regular sack happens and you call roughing thats egregious

 

[jazzcat22]

With so many penalties being judgment calls, it's almost impossible to achieve perfection anyways. Getting most right while keeping the flow of the game going well is a good goal. There will be bad/no calls all the time because there has to be. There's no way 7 officials can watch 11 matchups while looking for all the things they need to like possession, forward progress, holding, where to spot the ball, etc. Also, controversy sells. So when you don't have enough officials on the field it's just statistics that some big ones will be missed and get people all up in arms. People would realize this if they didn't go straight to victim mode every time a call doesn't go their way and then get creative with boogeyman ideas like the great Goodell/Refs Syndicate that may or may nor involve Mara form the Giants. Lol.

So years ago, and you may know better than I.
One of the refs used to be on the defensive side of the ball, behind the LB's, maybe the back judge I think. But quite a while ago they moved him to the offensive side of the ball. Supposedly to help see better, but it was really for protection, as too many were getting injured caught up in plays.

Has the officiating missing more calls a result of this, or just seems that way? Specifically holding calls on the OL.

 

[JustChip]

Yep, that’s the one. Drew wasn’t going to come down inbounds even if he hadn’t been hit.

 

[foofighters]

Owners meetings are underway in Irving this week. There’s several top topics .

One is roughing the passer which they are considering ejections on roughing the passer penalty and hits on defenseless players. Similar to what the NCAA has implemented on targeting.

Although the league executive expressed caution on how such rulings would be enforced. And whether replay officials would become part of the process . Which could open the door for having penalties reviewable which isn’t a direction the league appears interested in going .

Their concern is if they open the door to reviewing this penalty then other personal fouls which include pass interference could become reviewable which they’d have to weigh in how it lengthens the game .

The league doesn’t want to chase perfection. They feel it’s a dangerous place to go for the game and officiating.

Shocker!!!!! I couldn't tell...

 

[Diehardblues]

they dont need to be perfect but somethings are right infront of their eyes

missed holding? fine
missed PI? fine

but when something like a regular sack happens and you call roughing thats egregious

Some of these sacks which we obviously still want to see as what we used to call normal are simply not normal any longer.

Defensive players must be coached properly on what is or isn’t allowed any longer. There’s a very fine line regardless whether we agree with it or not .

And the league is aiming to take much stronger discipline by ejecting players who don’t conform.

 

[Diehardblues]

Shocker!!!!! I couldn't tell...

Understood . But I felt this was important because I’ve often argued perfection isn’t a goal of the league.

 

[Doomsday101]

So years ago, and you may know better than I.
One of the refs used to be on the defensive side of the ball, behind the LB's, maybe the back judge I think. But quite a while ago they moved him to the offensive side of the ball. Supposedly to help see better, but it was really for protection, as too many were getting injured caught up in plays.

Has the officiating missing more calls a result of this, or just seems that way? Specifically holding calls on the OL.

https://www.rookieroad.com/football...me include:,6 The Side Judge 7 The Back Judge

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

One word response……

DAHHHHH!

 

[terra]

Amuses me how many so rabidly defend poor officiating. Of course one here ALWAYS defends the officials no matter what.

Its very CLEAR the league does not pursue perfection; they do not even pursue competence all too often.

Making rules like the catch rule incredibly complicated is part of the problem and THAT is on the NFL

Overall you see the usual suspects defending the league; status quo; etc.

As regards the length of the game, there are ways it can be speeded up but of course they REALLY do not want to speed up the game because the longer it lasts the more TV ad revenue they get, right?

 

[Miller]

Owners meetings are underway in Irving this week. There’s several top topics .

One is roughing the passer which they are considering ejections on roughing the passer penalty and hits on defenseless players. Similar to what the NCAA has implemented on targeting.

Although the league executive expressed caution on how such rulings would be enforced. And whether replay officials would become part of the process . Which could open the door for having penalties reviewable which isn’t a direction the league appears interested in going .

Their concern is if they open the door to reviewing this penalty then other personal fouls which include pass interference could become reviewable which they’d have to weigh in how it lengthens the game .

The league doesn’t want to chase perfection. They feel it’s a dangerous place to go for the game and officiating.

The issue isn’t perfection. It’s that they aren’t even close to right on the roughing call. Last week the guy just tackled a QB and actually used his arms to brace himself and got the call. I get the need to not water down the product but overall it’s football with pads. Unless it’s a late hit or toward the head/knees..the Ds goal is to get to the QB and cause turnovers

 

[terra]

The issue isn’t perfection. It’s that they aren’t even close to right on the roughing call. Last week the guy just tackled a QB and actually used his arms to brace himself and got the call. I get the need to not water down the product but overall it’s football with pads. Unless it’s a late hit or toward the head/knees..the Ds goal is to get to the QB and cause turnovers

bi polar problem with the NFL
They love the excitement of big plays
BUT ONLY IF THEY ARE NOT VIOLENT

 

[noshame]

I don't expect perfection everybody makes mistakes but just some consistency from crew to crew would be amazing.

 

[Miller]

bi polar problem with the NFL
They love the excitement of big plays
BUT ONLY IF THEY ARE NOT VIOLENT

Right. It’s comical in my head…like a guy running full speed and then stopping….putting QB in a bear hug and start slapping at the ball like two brothers wrestling at home…”excuse me while I try and slap the ball out of your hands.”

 

[JoeKing]

The league accepts there is always going to be human error so no, perfection is not attainable. With that said, They still want to strive for as few errors as possible. People need to stop saying otherwise.

 

[Creeper]

I hate the idea of ejections unless it is clearly flagrant, like throwing a punch.

A for replay of penalties, it won't work for all penalties but there are times when it might help. I don't understand why it can't be done in the 40 seconds between plays rather than holding up play. For example, an offsides penalty can be reviewed quickly, same with a false start. PI might take a few more seconds but PI also has much bigger implications. But in some cases, it is the rules, not the officials. When rules are too subjective it creates errors. For example, DBs can put their hands on the back of receivers as long as they don't impede the receivers path to the ball or turn the receiver. But that is so subjective. There was a play in the Cowboys Texans came were it looked to me like the DB (Pitre) went through Brown to knock the ball away. He clearly got there early, and it looked like he impeded Brown's ability to make the catch himself. There was no penalty called but maybe there should have been a call there.