NFL not looking for perfection in officiating

[Diehardblues]

The issue isn’t perfection. It’s that they aren’t even close to right on the roughing call. Last week the guy just tackled a QB and actually used his arms to brace himself and got the call. I get the need to not water down the product but overall it’s football with pads. Unless it’s a late hit or toward the head/knees..the Ds goal is to get to the QB and cause turnovers

I’d agree . Unfortunately the issue is forever evolving . And the intention and interpretation of the new contact rules to the QB isn’t what most of us would deem reasonable for a contact sport like football.

But the NFL and its owners appear determined to protect their most valuable asset which are approaching half billion dollar contracts .

And looks like even stronger discipline is on the horizon with ejections . Perhaps we need to coach our defenders in what is going to be allowed or be willing to accept the consequences.

 

[tyke1doe]

I’d like to see some of our fans out there in the live speed of the game doing much better. It wasn’t until Instant Replay that we actually begun to question officiated calls and why the rules were implemented.

The key factor here despite some fans uproar is perfection isn’t a goal of the NFL or any sports .

Getting it right most of the time is acceptable. And let the players decide the outcome . That’s the ultimate goal.

Everyone's a perfect umpire or ref ... FROM THE STANDS AND IN THEIR LIVING ROOMS!
Even if every penalty or play were challengeable and reviewed by replay, fans STILL would complain.
Facts don't matter to unconscious biases. And many fans suffer from conscious and unconscious biases and only consider factual calls that favor their teams.

 

[Aftershock]

Owners meetings are underway in Irving this week. There’s several top topics .

One is roughing the passer which they are considering ejections on roughing the passer penalty and hits on defenseless players. Similar to what the NCAA has implemented on targeting.

Although the league executive expressed caution on how such rulings would be enforced. And whether replay officials would become part of the process . Which could open the door for having penalties reviewable which isn’t a direction the league appears interested in going .

Their concern is if they open the door to reviewing this penalty then other personal fouls which include pass interference could become reviewable which they’d have to weigh in how it lengthens the game .

The league doesn’t want to chase perfection. They feel it’s a dangerous place to go for the game and officiating.

If officiating was perfect the game would take 10 hours cause you would be forced to call every single penalty that happens. Somewhere in the line of scrimmage and the trenches there is holding every single play

 

[Diehardblues]

The league accepts there is always going to be human error so no, perfection is not attainable. With that said, They still want to strive for as few errors as possible. People need to stop saying otherwise.

Well said .

There is a human element played by humans . Sports aren’t intended to be perfect . I still believe most games are decided by the players performance within the rules not speculative or poor judgmental officiating.

There’s always been questionable or bad calls . But very few games are impacted as such. And replays and reviewing has no doubt help correct some of errors . But not all. And where the imperfection is acceptable.

And the NFL while attempting to protect their most coveted product is steering in a direction to further this purpose along with other violent hits which continue despite the existing rules.

Perhaps when teams begin getting star players ejected they will better coach them to adhere to the new rules.

 

[Shane612]

Officiating any [team] sport will never be perfect, no matter what.
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The only thing perfect in this world is the 7th hole at Pebble Beach Golf Links...the perfect par 3.

 

[big dog cowboy]

what the league does not want are 4 hour games. Many rules over the years have been put into place to keep the games in the 3 hour window.

Just cut back on commercials. There are so many it's ridiculous.

Kick extra point, commercials. Kick off, commercials. 3 and out, commercials. We watch more commercials than actual football sometimes.

 

[Reid1boys]

Cant have perfection. Every penalty discussed by the TV crew and the "rules expert," disagree with what is and isn't a penalty, what is a catch and on and on. So if these "Experts," can't agree after watching something over and over again, how the hell can anyone think these guys can approach "Perfection."

 

[MarcusRock]

So years ago, and you may know better than I.
One of the refs used to be on the defensive side of the ball, behind the LB's, maybe the back judge I think. But quite a while ago they moved him to the offensive side of the ball. Supposedly to help see better, but it was really for protection, as too many were getting injured caught up in plays.

Has the officiating missing more calls a result of this, or just seems that way? Specifically holding calls on the OL.

I think holding calls on the OL are better seen from behind the LOS anyways. They're looking for restriction so you have a better view of the OL's hands and then make your judgement based on the action of the defender trying to change direction, which is how the vast majority of holds happens IMO. Having both sides helps of course but if you had to lose one side, I think losing the front of the LOS would be preferred.

 

[JayFord]

Just cut back on commercials. There are so many it's ridiculous.

Kick extra point, commercials. Kick off, commercials. 3 and out, commercials. We watch more commercials than actual football sometimes.

Thats Fox so its not much that can be done....if you watch a 30 min sitcom on fox 17 minutes of it is commercials

i usually watch games on CBS its much better paced with the commercials. only games i watch on fox involve Dallas no Dallas no Fox

 

[nobody]

Simple solution to protecting a QB. Two hands on him and he's down. Period. No roughing, no tackling.. If the defender touches him with two hands, or two defenders touch him with one hand each, he'd down. Sorry.

If they're going to whine about a full contact sport, then make that a special rule for QB's.

 

[Gonzomandela01]

They're doing a great job then.

 

[jazzcat22]

https://www.rookieroad.com/football/referees/#:~:text=The seven officials in an NFL game include:,6 The Side Judge 7 The Back Judge

So it was the umpire they flipped sides of the LOS.

 

[john van brocklin]

Owners meetings are underway in Irving this week. There’s several top topics .

One is roughing the passer which they are considering ejections on roughing the passer penalty and hits on defenseless players. Similar to what the NCAA has implemented on targeting.

Although the league executive expressed caution on how such rulings would be enforced. And whether replay officials would become part of the process . Which could open the door for having penalties reviewable which isn’t a direction the league appears interested in going .

Their concern is if they open the door to reviewing this penalty then other personal fouls which include pass interference could become reviewable which they’d have to weigh in how it lengthens the game .

The league doesn’t want to chase perfection. They feel it’s a dangerous place to go for the game and officiating.

While perfection would be nice it's not realistic.
My main issue is consistentcy.
Or lack thereof.

 

[Doomsday101]

So it was the umpire they flipped sides of the LOS.

I believe so

 

[Mannix]

Unfortunately that has been on painful display for decades.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Succinct....perfect

 

[MarcusRock]

Everyone's a perfect umpire or ref ... FROM THE STANDS AND IN THEIR LIVING ROOMS!
Even if every penalty or play were challengeable and reviewed by replay, fans STILL would complain.
Facts don't matter to unconscious biases. And many fans suffer from conscious and unconscious biases and only consider factual calls that favor their teams.

This is the funniest thing where people will accuse refs of bias, ignoring that they have the incentive to accuse them or others of bias to cover their obvious (and oblivious) fan bias but it only shows their bias that much more. This shows up in other games where magically, the refs' super plan is to also cheat the opponents of Philly, Washington, the Giants (and Pittsburgh and New England for good measure) because it's against what they want to happen. The real funny ones are the ones that so believe they're "in the know" but can't exactly tell you how they know other than the hazy connecting of 86 different dots and taking Matrix-type leaps between buildings to bypass much simpler logic.

 

[JD_KaPow]

Owners meetings are underway in Irving this week. There’s several top topics .

One is roughing the passer which they are considering ejections on roughing the passer penalty and hits on defenseless players. Similar to what the NCAA has implemented on targeting.

Although the league executive expressed caution on how such rulings would be enforced. And whether replay officials would become part of the process . Which could open the door for having penalties reviewable which isn’t a direction the league appears interested in going .

Their concern is if they open the door to reviewing this penalty then other personal fouls which include pass interference could become reviewable which they’d have to weigh in how it lengthens the game .

The league doesn’t want to chase perfection. They feel it’s a dangerous place to go for the game and officiating.

They shouldn't strive for perfection. Perfection is tedious.

Some penalties should be reviewable. Offisdes, facemasks, illegal motion, maybe illegal man downfield (but I think they'd have to soften up the rule then). But I do not want the purely subjective penalties like PI and holding reviewed, because you're just replacing one subjective evaluation with another. What I would like is more consistency, and the way to achieve that is to have full-time officials. But that costs money.

 

[Bagman]

This just in.......water is wet.

 

[JayFord]

so when will the NFL figure out what a catch is and train officials on it?

 

[MarcusRock]

so when will the NFL figure out what a catch is and train officials on it?

I don't think it's officials that don't know what a catch is. There's just too many pieces for the average fan's attention span.