NFL Officiating

[Yeagermeister]

Dat true!

It's the Dilbert Principle

Promote the ones who can't do the job to management so they will be out of the way of those who can. :laugh2:

 

[Daudr]

Maybe some changes are coming................

Officiating chief Pereira to retire

NEW YORK -- Mike Pereira, who has headed the NFL's officiating department since 2001, will retire after the 2009 season.

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said that Pereira, who will turn 60 next year, told commissioner Roger Goodell after last season that next year would be his final one. He and his wife will return to his native northern California.

Pereira's retirement was first disclosed by Fox Sports.

Pereira has been one of the most open chiefs of officiating in NFL history. He has used technology, including a show on the NFL Network, to help explain decisions and talks regularly to the media, including a session at the annual NFL meetings that includes game tapes and quizzes.

He also sends out officiating tapes several times a year on both routine and controversial decisions.


Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press

His "explanations" are always company-line validations of the call. Sometimes it is blantantly obvious that it isn't as black-and-white as he's trying to make it seem.

 

[Future]

It's getting worse and it needs to change.

#1 - Get rid of dead ball penalties that don't allow replays. We'll call it the Hochuli rule. Too many big plays are changing due to outdated rules.

#2 - Allow a team to challenge a penalty. Ask Ed Reed if he actually touched the punter. Or, better yet, view a replay.

What else?

...I thought it was called on someone else...but that's not the point.

I'm torn on whether or not penalties should be challengable. There is too fine a line. Its easy to say that there wasnt' PI 50 yards downfield, but within 10?

At some point teams and fans need to recognize that most penalties are subjective, and take the rulings without whining. There are going to be missec calls, repaly won't change that, but it's a part of the game. Other than the Colts and Steelers in 95 it hasn't directly changed the outcome of a game (though you could make arguments for TB vs. STL a few years ago and some others).

There may be problems with the rules themselves and that is one thing, but to place the blame on the officiating is wrong and unjust. It will never be perfect, and there will always be something to complain about.

 

[EveryoneElse]

Maybe some changes are coming................

Officiating chief Pereira to retire

NEW YORK -- Mike Pereira, who has headed the NFL's officiating department since 2001, will retire after the 2009 season.

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said that Pereira, who will turn 60 next year, told commissioner Roger Goodell after last season that next year would be his final one. He and his wife will return to his native northern California.

Pereira's retirement was first disclosed by Fox Sports.

Pereira has been one of the most open chiefs of officiating in NFL history. He has used technology, including a show on the NFL Network, to help explain decisions and talks regularly to the media, including a session at the annual NFL meetings that includes game tapes and quizzes.

He also sends out officiating tapes several times a year on both routine and controversial decisions.


Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press

I caught a few of those segments on NFLN, but stopped watching after watching him try to completely BS his way through blatantly bad calls.

Has anyone witnessed a segment where he indeed admitted his bufoons screwed up?

 

[ZeroClub]

Officials aren't the main problem.

The main problem is an excessively large set of excruciatingly detailed and hair-splitting rules that are almost impossible to enforce consistently on the fly. It is easy to miss things when you are expected to focus on too many small details.

The league needs to simplify its rules so the rules can be enforced consistently.

 

[Scranton Tiger]

I'm torn on whether or not penalties should be challengable. There is too fine a line. Its easy to say that there wasnt' PI 50 yards downfield, but within 10?

Did you feel the same way during the first Philly game after the P.I. call that gave the Eagles a first and goal at the one? This even though replay CLEARLY showed the receiver dragging the defender to the ground. Then laughing about it on the sideline. I know I was PISSED.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Things will only change AFTER an NFL ref is charged with fixing games...which in my opinion is inevitable.

Until than however, the NFL will continue to pretend nothing is wrong.

 

[sacase]

Hell, there should have been a personal foul call on Ryan's hit on Mcgahee. Leading with the helmet and causing the fumble, it should have been ravens ball 15 yards from the spot of the foul.

 

[Future]

Did you feel the same way during the first Philly game after the P.I. call that gave the Eagles a first and goal at the one? This even though replay CLEARLY showed the receiver dragging the defender to the ground. Then laughing about it on the sideline. I know I was PISSED.

I was mad too, just like I am at every call that goes against the Cowboys.

But I just think a line needs to be drawn somewhere with instant replay...challenging penalties is too much IMO.

 

[J-DOG]

Hell, there should have been a personal foul call on Ryan's hit on Mcgahee. Leading with the helmet and causing the fumble, it should have been ravens ball 15 yards from the spot of the foul.

Agree.
How can every ref on the field not see a DB leading with his helmet on a play like that?
If that was Roy Williams.....there would have been 4 flags on that play.
They will probably fine Clark for that hit on Mcgahee but the inconsistency on plays like that make me question the validity of the referee's in the NFL.
You can say that the horse collar rule is not the Roy Williams rule or that the throwing the ball after a good play is not biased against the Cowboys but I see those plays all the time in games that the Cowboys are not in and they are not called.
More often than not it's only when the Cowboys are playing that the refs are calling the penalties and are so strict.
That Mcgahee hit was ridiculous...that has to be a penalty.

 

[JonJon]

The rules are already simple:

1. If its the Dallas Cowboys, call it. If its the other team, turn your head.

2. If you didn't see it, it didn't happen. If the replay shows that it did happen, it still didn't happen.

 

[Biggems]

Coaches are allowed 2 challenges per game, 3 if they get the first 2 right. They have 46 minutes to make those challenges, since the last 2 minutes of each half is reviewed by the booth.

IMO, the coaches should be allowed to review any aspect they want. It is their challenge and their timeout they are willing to wager.

 

[Biggems]

Did you feel the same way during the first Philly game after the P.I. call that gave the Eagles a first and goal at the one? This even though replay CLEARLY showed the receiver dragging the defender to the ground. Then laughing about it on the sideline. I know I was PISSED.

well the NFL Gods offered sweet justice....cause on the 4th down play, the defender had a nice firm grip on Curtis' ankle and no flag was thrown.

 

[dbair1967]

2. If you didn't see it, it didn't happen. If the replay shows that it did happen, it still didn't happen.

This is the "dont see dont call" rule that applies mostly to games where the Cowboys are involved.

For example, refs clearly dont see the other team mugging our front 7 guys, particularly Ware and Ellis. They do however see Andre Gurode's hand barely touch another defenders face mask for a split second, even though it has no impact on the play.

This also applies to defensive PI and illegal contact calls for and against the Cowboys

 

[Kangaroo]

Things will only change AFTER an NFL ref is charged with fixing games...which in my opinion is inevitable.

Until than however, the NFL will continue to pretend nothing is wrong.

If that was the case Dallas would never be 5-11 the ratings are to good when the team is winning please you think the NFL or the TV executives wanted Dallas to not be in the playoffs that is big money for them and big ratings.

It is funny people cry this stuff all the time in sports if this was true then every small market team would be screwed and never make the playoffs or SB.

The Jets; Giants; Dallas; Pitt ; Commanders and teams like that would always make the playoffs. Sorry Carolina your TV market is two small. Atlanta while you are not a great draw bye bye

 

[JonJon]

This is the "dont see dont call" rule that applies mostly to games where the Cowboys are involved.

For example, refs clearly dont see the other team mugging our front 7 guys, particularly Ware and Ellis. They do however see Andre Gurode's hand barely touch another defenders face mask for a split second, even though it has no impact on the play.

This also applies to defensive PI and illegal contact calls for and against the Cowboys

Don't forget the roughing the passer calls when the thumb slightly grazes the top of the QB's helmet. Yeah, that deserves a 15 yard penalty, but when Romo is mugged a full second after the pass was thrown and gets up with a busted up chin, it was obviously a continuation and therefore should not be a penalty.
Then there is the intentional grounding where Romo is scrambling and gets hit when he is in the process of throwing, but because the ball ended up away from the receiver because of the hit, then it is intentional grounding and a loss of down. Let's just ignore when Eli is under pressure and clearly in the pocket, but throws the ball to an empty spot on the field. Well that's just good recognition by Eli right there and doesn't even deserve to be mentioned by the announcers as potential intentional grounding.
What about Ware and Ratliff getting tackled in the backfield by the O-line? Well those O-linemen are doing an excellent job protecting the QB, but please, feel free to negate our 40 yard pass to Owens because Gurode's left pinkie touched the name on the back of the defensive ends jersey.
Blatant pushing off by the receiver against our cornerback as offensive pass interference? Nope. The defender should just sit on the sideline and hope the receiver doesn't catch the ball. Call defensive pass interference and put the ball on the 1 yard line. I could go on and on, but you get the point.

 

[ryanbabs]

...and with the 1st pick in the 2010 NFL Officials Draft, the East Coast selects... :laugh2:

Is there an over/under on the number of bad calls in Pittsburgh's favor for the Super Bowl?

 

[bigE79]

I think the problem is refs having alliance to teams they grew up cheering for and before everyone thinks im an idiot think about this,we have been the most hated team in the nfl since the late 70s and chances are some of those people who hated the cowboys are now refs, are you trying to tell me, when they are r****** a cowboy game ,they wouldnt make a couple of **** calls to keep the cowboys from winning or hurt their chances of winning? Im not saying this happens but would it surprise me if it did...HELL NO because i know if i was a ref or if a few of you were,it would be almost impossible not to call a game in the cowboys favor...jmho

 

[jackrussell]

What would determine being a 'full time' ref? I mean, what are they going to do during the off season, go to ref camp or something? Have some sort of drill training?

I don't think officiating is any worse, or any better than years past. It's just that technology has given the viewer a BETTER view than the refs. And we see more than we were able to in the past. The only way would be put all the refs in the studio and give them the same access...not happening.

Bad calls are the nature of the game, just as bad play calling and bad execution. The greatest majority of time, a truely great team will overcome a bad call in a single game situation, and in the big picture over the course of the season you benefit as much as you lose.