NFL Penalizing Salary Cap for Cowboys and Commanders

[cowboy_ron]

One good thing about this developement is the unifying factor.

Homers and Haters united in their common fury.


Except of course for the few true Cowboy hating trolls/*******s. They can't help but reveal themsleves at a time like this.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

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The nfl engaged in collusion. The cowboys and Commanders violated back room deal. The NFLPA is not challenging because no player will lose $

 

[speedkilz88]

It appears to actually be somewhat personal or, at least, arbitary. I'm guessing the small market owners (Jags, Bucs for example) were tired of getting outbid by Snyder and Jones in particular and threw a hissy about it. Instead of reviewing every contract's structure, Goodell threw up his hands and said, "fine whatever, I'll dock them the contracts' in penalties and give it to everybody else". The small market owners presumably clapped in delight.

He basically had to give it to everybody else to buy off the NFLPA so they would agree with it. What is funny(in a not so funny way) is that the NFL is admitting that they were in collusion together and the NFLPA seems to be fine with it.

 

[casmith07]

No big deal. Quit crying. I know it isn't fair. $10M ain't all that bad. Cut Newman, Kosier, and Beuhler and you get the $10M back. Those three were getting cut anyway.

Jerry Jones has $10M less to spend on salaries which means he has $10M more in his pocket. The other owners have $1.6M more available to spend on salaries if they so choose. But they have to spend $1.6M from their pockets if they do. I think.

This is essentially what I said earlier - with $1.6M other owners can extend their longsnapper or sign a guy that won't even dress on Sundays. Big deal.

Unless, with this apparent group ownership stuff, the owners of all 28 of those teams get together and decide to sign Carl Nicks :laugh1:

 

[NinePointOh]

Nope. Peppers' cap number went down a little, but it was still $12,783,333 in 2011. Weddle was still on his rookie contract during the uncapped year.

So are ESPN's numbers wrong, or was there other money that balanced it out from 2010 to 2011?

 

[sonnyboy]

Isn't it though. Even the Jerry haters can't hate on Jerry since this was an obvious attempt to put winning ahead of profit.

 

[This is Our Year]

Only issue I have is how is it the Cowboys and the Skins the only teams who did this?

Dallas will be able to overcome this but I find it hard to believe given the contract that were being tossed around in the uncapped year that only these 2 teams were in violation?

My thoughts exactly, that's what I was thinking as well

 

[Cajuncowboy]

No big deal. Quit crying. I know it isn't fair. $10M ain't all that bad. Cut Newman, Kosier, and Beuhler and you get the $10M back. Those three were getting cut anyway.

Jerry Jones has $10M less to spend on salaries which means he has $10M more in his pocket. The other owners have $1.6M more available to spend on salaries if they so choose. But they have to spend $1.6M from their pockets if they do. I think.

No! It is a big deal. Goodell pulling this crap one day before FA? Really? He is trying to dictate who DOESN'T sign big name players. And the main reason it is a big deal if they can do this to selective teams just because they want to what would be next?

 

[AdamJT13]

Quick question Adam.
Do you believe the Cowboys will still be able to do all they want to or will this handicap them too much?

Unless we're stupid, we'll take the entire hit next year, and this won't affect us much this year. Then next year, a couple of quick restructures next year will take care of the penalty, and the following year, the cap is expected to jump.

Frankly, structuring Austin's contract the way we did and then restructuring it allowed us to keep his cap number small last year and this year. Last year, we decided to do nothing with all of that cap room, and we ended up wasting one of Romo's best seasons. It would be asinine to hold back this season and waste yet another year of Romo's prime.

 

[firehawk350]

This is essentially what I said earlier - with $1.6M other owners can extend their longsnapper or sign a guy that won't even dress on Sundays. Big deal.

Unless, with this apparent group ownership stuff, the owners of all 28 of those teams get together and decide to sign Carl Nicks :laugh1:

You could probably get it with 8 teams one from each conference. Each team gets Nicks for two games. If two of the teams play each other, then Nicks will be a very tired man by the end.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

This is essentially what I said earlier - with $1.6M other owners can extend their longsnapper or sign a guy that won't even dress on Sundays. Big deal.

Unless, with this apparent group ownership stuff, the owners of all 28 of those teams get together and decide to sign Carl Nicks :laugh1:

And I'm guessing over half the owners would rather not spend the extra $1.6M which comes from their own pockets. You think the Bengals' owner is going to spend that money/ The Bengals are $46M under the cap this year That cheapskate ain't spending a dime. Same with the TB owner who is in deep debt.

 

[cowboy_ron]

This is essentially what I said earlier - with $1.6M other owners can extend their longsnapper or sign a guy that won't even dress on Sundays. Big deal.

Unless, with this apparent group ownership stuff, the owners of all 28 of those teams get together and decide to sign Carl Nicks :laugh1:

 

[JonJon]

One good thing about this developement is the unifying factor.

Homers and Haters united in their common fury.


Except of course for the few true Cowboy hating trolls/*******s. They can't help but reveal themsleves at a time like this.

LOL. True statement. I think the best way to deal with this is to roll the $10 million over to next year when the dead money comes off the books. That way, this year and next will we will still have a moderate amount of spending money for free agents.

 

[Cowboy Junkie]

Unless we're stupid, we'll take the entire hit next year, and this won't affect us much this year. Then next year, a couple of quick restructures next year will take care of the penalty, and the following year, the cap is expected to jump.

Frankly, structuring Austin's contract the way we did and then restructuring it allowed us to keep his cap number small last year and this year. Last year, we decided to do nothing with all of that cap room, and we ended up wasting one of Romo's best seasons. It would be asinine to hold back this season and waste yet another year of Romo's prime.

thanks Adam

 

[casmith07]

You could probably get it with 8 teams one from each conference. Each team gets Nicks for two games. If two of the teams play each other, then Nicks will be a very tired man by the end.

And I'm guessing over half the owners would rather not spend the extra $1.6M which comes from their own pockets. You think the Bengals' owner is going to spend that money/ The Bengals are $46M under the cap this year That cheapskate ain't spending a dime. Same with the TB owner who is in deep debt.

Which is why firehawk's plan will probably be more likely. Nicks obviously wouldn't play for the Bengals, Bucs, or Cards, since their owners are cheapskates extraordinaires.

 

[firehawk350]

Unless we're stupid, we'll take the entire hit next year, and this won't affect us much this year. Then next year, a couple of quick restructures next year will take care of the penalty, and the following year, the cap is expected to jump.

Frankly, structuring Austin's contract the way we did and then restructuring it allowed us to keep his cap number small last year and this year. Last year, we decided to do nothing with all of that cap room, and we ended up wasting one of Romo's best seasons. It would be asinine to hold back this season and waste yet another year of Romo's prime.

Restructuring is short-term vision at its finest, or worst. Having been through that hell for 10 years as a Skins fan, I'd avoid doing that unless in dire straights.

 

[jazzcat22]

And to get my opinion out there before the ten page madness ensues, I don't understand why we're being punished for this. Every team had this option and it was up to them to use it. We chose to, they didnt, sucks for them but to penalize us AFTER the fact is bush league.

We get punished for sneezing, or anything else remotely football related.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

No! It is a big deal. Goodell pulling this crap one day before FA? Really? He is trying to dictate who DOESN'T sign big name players. And the main reason it is a big deal if they can do this to selective teams just because they want to what would be next?

Small potatoes. Nothing to worry about. Pretty soon we will be laughing at the teams getting hit with bounty fines.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Small potatoes. Nothing to worry about. Pretty soon we will be laughing at the teams getting hit with bounty fines.

My concern lies with the direction the league is going. Like I said, if they can flagrantly penalize a team just for the hell of it what else can they get away with. It's absurdity at it's highest level.

 

[sonnyboy]

No! It is a big deal. Goodell pulling this crap one day before FA? Really? He is trying to dictate who DOESN'T sign big name players. And the main reason it is a big deal if they can do this to selective teams just because they want to what would be next?

From my point of view, it's not really Goodell, its the POS team or teams that complained about it.

Obviously that POS team was only complaining about what they saw as a future slary cap circumvention of it's division rivals.