NFL QBs by All-Pro selections

[Nova]

I'm a fan of All-Pro selections except for when it comes to QBs.

I get the format, but limiting to just 1 slot for both first and second team seems disproportionate for some reason.

 

[MarcusRock]

I'm a fan of All-Pro selections except for when it comes to QBs.

I get the format, but limiting to just 1 slot for both first and second team seems disproportionate for some reason.

How so? Only 1 QB is on the field for a team in a game, whereas you have 2 tackles, 2 guards, etc. and they're voted on as such, are they not?

 

[Nova]

How so? Only 1 QB is on the field for a team in a game, whereas you have 2 tackles, 2 guards, etc. and they're voted on as such, are they not?

I get the aim of the format, but it doesn't actually work out that way.

With your example, Guard, it's not like they say "well we picked Martin who is an RG, so now we need an LG". They just take the best guards. Same with receivers.

And running backs? There's usually a pair of backs which doesn't really happen in practice. Hell in 2023, there were 4: 1st team running backs.

 

[Tussinman]

I get the aim of the format, but it doesn't actually work out that way.

With your example, Guard, it's not like they say "well we picked Martin who is an RG, so now we need an LG". They just take the best guards.

No for offensive line they actually differentiate right and left side. This was last years AP team for example

LT: Trent Williams (1st) and Tyron Smith (2nd)
LG: Joe Thuney (1st) and Tyler Smith (2nd)
RG: Zack Martin (1st) and Chris Lidstrom (2nd)
RT: Penei Sewell (1st) and Lane Johnson (2nd)

 

[pjtoadie]

Speaking of All-Pro, do we know who that 1 vote was that voted for Dak to be MVP?

I think it was Rockport, Qcard, the OP, or Marathon

 

[Nova]

No for offensive line they actually differentiate right and left side. This was last years AP team for example

LT: Trent Williams (1st) and Tyron Smith (2nd)
LG: Joe Thuney (1st) and Tyler Smith (2nd)
RG: Zack Martin (1st) and Chris Lidstrom (2nd)
RT: Penei Sewell (1st) and Lane Johnson (2nd)

you're right, my bad

also, looks like I was mixing up All-Pro lists.

I guess it's all fair, lol

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

and the Dak bots ignoring his playoff failures

Understood there's nothing to write him about when it comes to his failures lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I think it was Rockport, Qcard, the OP, or Marathon

Naw I voted for Romo lol......I thought I could vote for his 2014 "MVP" season lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Dak is not a Top 4 QB.

There isn't a GM in football that would agree.

I don't think GM's in this league would even agree on who's top 4. My top 4 would be Mahomes, Allen, Lamar and Dak. Some would probably put Goff in there. Some would probably put Burrow. Some would put Stroud. That's why these "top 4" lists are useless. The only consistent name in there would be Mahomes lol.

 

[pjtoadie]

Naw I voted for Romo lol......I thought I could vote for his 2014 "MVP" season lol.

Lol

 

[morat1959]

Thank you! The Dak slobbers can’t stat away this one. They never respond to it.

 

[morat1959]

That was David Carr, and that was from 10 years ago.

Dak more recently beat Herbert in a similar throwing contest. He takes 1 win, takes 1 loss. If he plays Carr again now, he probably spanks him.

FA La La….probably does this or that. Dak is a freakin joke! The sooner he’s gone the better. Mark this reply….this is the year it unravels. He’s done wearing the star.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Well how bad is Jim Kelly and Dan Marino?? Eli Manning took his team to 2 superbowl victories and Trent Dilpher took his team to a Superbowl victory.

So according to what you're saying, E. Manning and Dilpher were better quarterbacks than Kelly and Marino, correct?

We dont see eye to eye often...but yer not wrong here!

 

[DallasEast]

Speaking of All-Pro, do we know who that 1 vote was that voted for Dak to be MVP?

It would be interesting to review each AP voter's ballot. Doug Farrar published his ballot choices (link). Below is the list of all 50 voters (link):

Emmanuel Acho, FS1
Greg Auman, Fox Sports
Howard Balzer, PHNX radio
Jarrett Bell, USA Today
Dave Birkett, Detroit Free Press
Tom Brady, Fox Sports
Tedy Bruschi, ESPN
Vic Carucci, WGRZ radio
Mark Craig, Minneapolis Star Tribune
Tom Curran, NBC Sports Boston
Charles Davis, CBS Sports
Nate Davis, USA Today
Howard Deneroff, Westwood One
Tony Dungy, NBC Sports
Jori Epstein, Yahoo Sports
Boomer Esiason, CBS Sports
Doug Farrar, USA Today Sports Media
Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk
Reuben Frank, NBC Sports Philadelphia
Rich Gannon, SiriusXM
Jonathan Jones, CBS Sports
Lindsay Jones, The Ringer
Mike Jones, The Athletic
Clark Judge, Talk of Fame Network
Ira Kaufman, ***FAKE-NEWS-SOURCE***.com
Mina Kimes, ESPN
Peter King, NBC Sports
Pat Kirwan, SiriusXM
Jeff Legwold, ESPN
Jim Miller, SiriusXM
Sam Monson, Pro Football Focus
Bruce Murray, SiriusXM
Gary Myers, NFL author
Laura Okmin, Fox Sports
Dan Orlovsky, ESPN
Nick Pavlatos, SiriusXM
Dan Pompei, The Athletic
Nora Princiotti, The Ringer
Lorenzo Reyes, USA Today
Charles Robinson, Yahoo Sports
Dianna Russini, The Athletic
Mike Sando, The Athletic
Aaron Schatz, FTN Network
Adam Schein, CBS Sports
Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
Chris Simms, NBC Sports
Armando Salguero, Outkick.com
Mike Tirico, NBC Sports
Ben Volin, Boston Globe
Charean Williams, Pro Football Talk

 

[gtb1943]

It would be interesting to review each AP voter's ballot. Doug Farrar published his ballot choices (link). Below is the list of all 50 voters (link):

Emmanuel Acho, FS1
Greg Auman, Fox Sports
Howard Balzer, PHNX radio
Jarrett Bell, USA Today
Dave Birkett, Detroit Free Press
Tom Brady, Fox Sports
Tedy Bruschi, ESPN
Vic Carucci, WGRZ radio
Mark Craig, Minneapolis Star Tribune
Tom Curran, NBC Sports Boston
Charles Davis, CBS Sports
Nate Davis, USA Today
Howard Deneroff, Westwood One
Tony Dungy, NBC Sports
Jori Epstein, Yahoo Sports
Boomer Esiason, CBS Sports
Doug Farrar, USA Today Sports Media
Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk
Reuben Frank, NBC Sports Philadelphia
Rich Gannon, SiriusXM
Jonathan Jones, CBS Sports
Lindsay Jones, The Ringer
Mike Jones, The Athletic
Clark Judge, Talk of Fame Network
Ira Kaufman, ***FAKE-NEWS-SOURCE***.com
Mina Kimes, ESPN
Peter King, NBC Sports
Pat Kirwan, SiriusXM
Jeff Legwold, ESPN
Jim Miller, SiriusXM
Sam Monson, Pro Football Focus
Bruce Murray, SiriusXM
Gary Myers, NFL author
Laura Okmin, Fox Sports
Dan Orlovsky, ESPN
Nick Pavlatos, SiriusXM
Dan Pompei, The Athletic
Nora Princiotti, The Ringer
Lorenzo Reyes, USA Today
Charles Robinson, Yahoo Sports
Dianna Russini, The Athletic
Mike Sando, The Athletic
Aaron Schatz, FTN Network
Adam Schein, CBS Sports
Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
Chris Simms, NBC Sports
Armando Salguero, Outkick.com
Mike Tirico, NBC Sports
Ben Volin, Boston Globe
Charean Williams, Pro Football Talk

some of those names I really roll my eyes at. Mike Florio for one

 

[GINeric]

Both Kelly and Marino played in SBs, Dak can't even get close. Your analogy is flawed.

Yet you still didn't answer the question. Stay focused. Your dodging the original question says it all. YOU are flawed.

The question was.... If Manning and Dilpher lead their teams to Superbowl victories and Kelly and Marino failed to do so.... according to the guidelines previously used, clearly Dilpher and E. Manning are better than Marino and Kelly, correct???

Can you just answer this simple question or will you rely on another deflection tactic .... ball is in your court.

 

[gtb1943]

Jim Kelly had the absolute worst luck of any HOF QB I can think of
Loses one SB because the kicker blows a chip shot
then gets worked by the next three even though he had arguably a great team

 

[GINeric]

All QBs you listed are much better than Dak.

Also, "Dilpher" lolololololol

And I have to respect your opinion.... but Kelly and Marino failed to win Superbowls, so according to your logic, Dilpher and E. Manning won Superbowls so that mean they are better quarterbacks than Kelly and Marino, correct?

 

[MarcusRock]

It would be interesting to review each AP voter's ballot. Doug Farrar published his ballot choices (link). Below is the list of all 50 voters (link):

Emmanuel Acho, FS1
Greg Auman, Fox Sports
Howard Balzer, PHNX radio
Jarrett Bell, USA Today
Dave Birkett, Detroit Free Press
Tom Brady, Fox Sports
Tedy Bruschi, ESPN
Vic Carucci, WGRZ radio
Mark Craig, Minneapolis Star Tribune
Tom Curran, NBC Sports Boston
Charles Davis, CBS Sports
Nate Davis, USA Today
Howard Deneroff, Westwood One
Tony Dungy, NBC Sports
Jori Epstein, Yahoo Sports
Boomer Esiason, CBS Sports
Doug Farrar, USA Today Sports Media
Mike Florio, Pro Football Talk
Reuben Frank, NBC Sports Philadelphia
Rich Gannon, SiriusXM
Jonathan Jones, CBS Sports
Lindsay Jones, The Ringer
Mike Jones, The Athletic
Clark Judge, Talk of Fame Network
Ira Kaufman, ***FAKE-NEWS-SOURCE***.com
Mina Kimes, ESPN
Peter King, NBC Sports
Pat Kirwan, SiriusXM
Jeff Legwold, ESPN
Jim Miller, SiriusXM
Sam Monson, Pro Football Focus
Bruce Murray, SiriusXM
Gary Myers, NFL author
Laura Okmin, Fox Sports
Dan Orlovsky, ESPN
Nick Pavlatos, SiriusXM
Dan Pompei, The Athletic
Nora Princiotti, The Ringer
Lorenzo Reyes, USA Today
Charles Robinson, Yahoo Sports
Dianna Russini, The Athletic
Mike Sando, The Athletic
Aaron Schatz, FTN Network
Adam Schein, CBS Sports
Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel
Chris Simms, NBC Sports
Armando Salguero, Outkick.com
Mike Tirico, NBC Sports
Ben Volin, Boston Globe
Charean Williams, Pro Football Talk

Oh awesome, thanks. So now we know it was the person at FAKE-NEWS-SOURCE.com that did it. Joker. Lol.

 

[Yobwocs]

Dak is not a Top 4 QB.

There isn't a GM in football that would agree.

No way you can possess that information unless you had lunch with them. The general GM opinion can't differ much from the media - who most recently had him in the Top 5: