NFLPA should have negotiated a late release penalty

[ABQCOWBOY]

All players are an injury away from borderline. The NFL tries to stay away from guaranteed money because the risk associated with injury are just too great. It's not good for the product on the field. At the end of the day, fans still want to see a good product. I don't think this helps the actual product on the field.

 

[xwalker]

The ability for teams to keep players until the day before the season starts (or the end of training camp) is a huge advantage for the teams over the players.

That should have been a major negotiating point. They should have pushed for salaries to be guaranteed at the start of training camp.

Please quit starting nonsensical threads.

They have a 90 man TC roster. They can't guarantee 37 contracts that will definitely not be on the team.

 

[Galian Beast]

Please quit starting nonsensical threads.

They have a 90 man TC roster. They can't guarantee 37 contracts that will definitely not be on the team.

Sure they can. They can do whatever they want. They could make it so that the bottom 59 contracts don't count against the cap, even if they are guaranteed. It's all based on what you negotiate.

 

[pansophy]

The ability for teams to keep players until the day before the season starts (or the end of training camp) is a huge advantage for the teams over the players.

That should have been a major negotiating point. They should have pushed for salaries to be guaranteed at the start of training camp.

How do you guarantee a salary before they have made the 53 man roster? That's the end of the discussion.

 

[xwalker]

Sure they can. They can do whatever they want. They could make it so that the bottom 59 contracts don't count against the cap, even if they are guaranteed. It's all based on what you negotiate.

The last CBA was focused on paying the players that contribute the most and that's why the rookie contracts are drastically lower now. It would be beyond dumb to be paying 37 players per team that are not actually playing.

 

[Galian Beast]

The last CBA was focused on paying the players that contribute the most and that's why the rookie contracts are drastically lower now. It would be beyond dumb to be paying 37 players per team that are not actually playing.

One of my biggest complaints with the CBA is that it is top heavy.

That being said, that argument doesn't dissuade from what I wrote in the OP. Stop trolling.

 

[xwalker]

One of my biggest complaints with the CBA is that it is top heavy.

That being said, that argument doesn't dissuade from what I wrote in the OP. Stop trolling.

It would be moronic to play 37 players per team NOT to play. Neither the teams or the players Union want that to happen.

 

[Galian Beast]

How do you guarantee a salary before they have made the 53 man roster? That's the end of the discussion.

They don't need to make the roster in order for you to guarantee their salary. You're confusing what is and what could be.

 

[Galian Beast]

And besides that you could have any number of rules to limit the number of players this impacted

- Vets only
- Players with more than one year left on their contract

The list could go on.

My point is that teams shouldn't be able to keep players they have no intention of keeping and the NFLPA should have recognized that.

 

[pansophy]

They don't need to make the roster in order for you to guarantee their salary. You're confusing what is and what could be.

Guaranteeing salaries will reduce opportunities. Instead of having 90 players in camp there will be somewhere below to 60. You don't guarantee salaries because a couple of overpaid vets get cut late in training camp. If anything it works. Carr gets to show that he is better than anyone else we could have to replace him and thereby is worth overpaying.

 

[Galian Beast]

Guaranteeing salaries will reduce opportunities. Instead of having 90 players in camp there will be somewhere below to 60. You don't guarantee salaries because a couple of overpaid vets get cut late in training camp. If anything it works. Carr gets to show that he is better than anyone else we could have to replace him and thereby is worth overpaying.

This isn't about Carr or his abilities.

Trust me, I don't want this because of Carr, but rather because I think it is an unfair term of free agency for a player to knowingly be held hostage to a team that doesn't want them. I think we could see more trades, and more good fits on teams, when players have the opportunity to get a full training camp with said team, it helps the league produce a better product.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The reality of the situation, IMO, is that this process has been in place for a long time. If it were something that the players felt strongly enough about, it would have been changed or at the very least, addressed.


Gailian's opinion is that it should have been. Nothing wrong with an opinion and if that is his, that's fine. Many don't agree and that's also fine. Nothing will be done about this any time soon. It is what it is.

 

[speedkilz88]

The reality of the situation, IMO, is that this process has been in place for a long time. If it were something that the players felt strongly enough about, it would have been changed or at the very least, addressed.


Gailian's opinion is that it should have been. Nothing wrong with an opinion and if that is his, that's fine. Many don't agree and that's also fine. Nothing will be done about this any time soon. It is what it is.

But as has been pointed out. The repercussions would be that many vets that can still contribute to a team would be phased out of the league. No one would want to guarantee these older vets (or borderline talent vets) that salary.

 

[Galian Beast]

But as has been pointed out. The repercussions would be that many vets that can still contribute to a team would be phased out of the league. No one would want to guarantee these older vets (or borderline talent vets) that salary.

As I said, if that was a concern there would have been a bunch of wording to avoid that.

You could limit it to players who were under contract the prior year.