Nick Folk

[Cover 2]

No, definitely no...

Why not?

 

[fan62]

Something is sooo... wrong here, after surgery.
Mechanics not right, tight muscles because of surgery...etc?
I would guess our coaches have tried everything already. I like Nick and would love to see him get it back. Jerry needs to find an innovative kicking coach to get Folk and Bueller right, on field goals. I just don't see why their isn't a coach out there that can use before and after films to see what motion is different and do their best to correct it. Do we have just a kicking coach or adviser?
For what they spend on these guys, I would hope that they have high speed film of every kicker, when they are on. Then use the same to compare and fix when something goes wrong. Someone has to be an expert and selling his services to NFL teams.
Bring him back only if you think you have a solution, and can help him.

 

[CCBoy]

Some perspective is added when one considers the journey that Philadellphia's David Akers has seen...

He has a career success rate of almost 82%. More recently he has a success rate of close to 87% as the season winds down.

Ackers flunked tryouts with the Falcons, Panthers and Commanders. He even spent a year kicking for a NFL Europe team in Berlin before the Eagles job in 2000.

Kicker is the most fragile position on the field, no contest.

Last season, Nick Folk went 20 for 22 for Dallas a year after earning a Pro Bowl trip as a rookie. This season he missed field goal attempts in six straight games...and it cost him his job.

In 2008, Suisham misfired on only two of sixteen within the 40 yard lines, but three crucial kicks cost him his roster spot with Washington this season.

Last winter, the Giants dumped Pro Bowl kicker John Carney in favor of Lawrence Tynes. Carney signed with New Orleans, and has since been replaced. While Tynes was no good four times from inside the 40 in his first 13 games.

There are many things that can affect a kick: the snap, the hold, the protection, the field, and weather conditions.




I'm with the 'Bear...as I think Folk's career is far from over, unless the old injury dominates somehow.
And before Parcells arrived, the Cowoys had a magician running the kicking responsibilities on the team.

 

[CowboyMike]

And before Parcells arrived, the Cowoys had a magician running the kicking responsibilities on the team.

Steve Hoffman. Great kicking coach. But Parcells didn't want anyone "babying" his kickers, so he booted him.

 

[CliffnDallas]

Yes. Then so he can practice, we have goal posts tatooed on his girlfriends ...

 

[Randy White]

surprise me if the Cowboys signed him to the practice squad.

he's still eligible.

 

[Yeagermeister]

surprise me if the Cowboys signed him to the practice squad.

he's still eligible.

I don't think he is. He's played in to many games.

 

[Randy White]

I don't think he is. He's played in to many games.

I thought practice squad elegibility was by number of years in the league.

Is it now like college football red shirt program ?

 

[Yeagermeister]

I thought practice squad elegibility was by number of years in the league.

Is it now like college football red shirt program ?

I think it's 3 years or a set number of games. If we could have put him on the PS I think Jerry would have by now.

 

[Yeagermeister]

From Wikipedia:

National Football League

Each NFL team may keep up to eight members on its "practice squad" in addition to the 53-member main roster. They consist mostly of rookies who were cut in training camps and borderline NFL-caliber players. Both rookies and young veterans are eligible for the practice squad. However, a player cannot participate on the practice squad for more than three seasons, or if he has accrued a year of NFL experience (six or more games on a club's 53-man active roster or official Injured Reserve list.) If the player was on the active list for fewer than 9 games during their "only Accrued Season(s)", he maintains his eligibility for the practice squad[1].

Practice squad players practice alongside regular roster players during the week, but they are not allowed to play in actual games. They can be paid considerably less than active squad players: The minimum salary from 2008 to 2010 is $5,200 per week (2008-2010)[2] for 17 weeks, or $88,400 per season, in comparison to the NFL minimum rookie salary of $285,000. (Some practice squad players are paid considerably more, however. In 2006, the New England Patriots paid third-year player Billy Yates the full $425,000 he would have earned on the active roster.)[3]

Players can be promoted to the active roster of their current team or to that of any other team. They have free agent status and can sign with any team they wish without compensation to the original team, if they are released from the practice squad. Additionally, the NFL has a program through which foreign players may be assigned to teams' practice squads, called the International Practice Squad Program.[4]

 

[brickman]

Kicking is such a mental thing. I think once it started going bad, it just snowballed. You definitely bring him back. He has too much talent and has shown in the past that he is a great, clutch kicker. I think (and hope) he will be back and better than ever.

 

[Randy White]

so, basically, it's the NFL version of a redshirt...

 

[Cowboy Brian]

so, basically, it's the NFL version of a redshirt...

except people can steal em.

 

[aikemirv]

Kicking is such a mental thing. I think once it started going bad, it just snowballed. You definitely bring him back. He has too much talent and has shown in the past that he is a great, clutch kicker. I think (and hope) he will be back and better than ever.

I think this was a problem that was created by the coaching staff. His confidence was poor at the beginnning of the year and then the holder problems further caused problems with him and by the time we changed holders his confidence was shot.

That is my personal opinion on what went wrong with Folk, and I am sticking to it!

 

[Doomsday101]

When Dallas released Folk my hope was he gets an opportunity to return next season and compete for the job.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think this was a problem that was created by the coaching staff. His confidence was poor at the beginnning of the year and then the holder problems further caused problems with him and by the time we changed holders his confidence was shot.

That is my personal opinion on what went wrong with Folk, and I am sticking to it!

What did you want the coaches to do bring back Brad Johnson so he could continue to hold for Folk? :laugh2:

 

[Biggems]

Some perspective is added when one considers the journey that Philadellphia's David Akers has seen...

He has a career success rate of almost 82%. More recently he has a success rate of close to 87% as the season winds down.

Ackers flunked tryouts with the Falcons, Panthers and Commanders. He even spent a year kicking for a NFL Europe team in Berlin before the Eagles job in 2000.

Kicker is the most fragile position on the field, no contest.

Last season, Nick Folk went 20 for 22 for Dallas a year after earning a Pro Bowl trip as a rookie. This season he missed field goal attempts in six straight games...and it cost him his job.

In 2008, Suisham misfired on only two of sixteen within the 40 yard lines, but three crucial kicks cost him his roster spot with Washington this season.

Last winter, the Giants dumped Pro Bowl kicker John Carney in favor of Lawrence Tynes. Carney signed with New Orleans, and has since been replaced. While Tynes was no good four times from inside the 40 in his first 13 games.

There are many things that can affect a kick: the snap, the hold, the protection, the field, and weather conditions.




I'm with the 'Bear...as I think Folk's career is far from over, unless the old injury dominates somehow.
And before Parcells arrived, the Cowboys had a magician running the kicking responsibilities on the team.

If I am not mistaken, Carney is injured, and that is why the Saints signed Hartley.

 

[rynochop]

What did you want the coaches to do bring back Brad Johnson so he could continue to hold for Folk? :laugh2:

I still can't believe Kitna cant freaking hold. I have to assume its been tried at some point in his career, but damn when Tonys getting most of the reps in practice cant he practice holding??

Question: Are there any other starting QB's holding?

Anyone else looking forward to the playoffs and anytime we have to kick a FG the announcers will bring up Seattle? Yeah, me either.

 

[Doomsday101]

I still can't believe Kitna cant freaking hold. I have to assume its been tried at some point in his career, but damn when Tonys getting most of the reps in practice cant he practice holding??

Question: Are there any other starting QB's holding?

Anyone else looking forward to the playoffs and anytime we have to kick a FG the announcers will bring up Seattle? Yeah, me either.

In a perfect situation it would be Kitna holding but he evidently has not done it before or was not good at it either way Kitna is not an option at this time.

As for your question of a starting QB doing it? I don't know of any who do.

I will say at this late juncture I would just as soon have Romo do it than to take a chance on someone else. Next season I would hope we will have someone other than Romo doing it.

Lastly I’m sure we will see the replay of the botched hold vs. Sea. When the playoffs start up but I don’t get upset over stupid things like that from the guys calling the game, I have learned that it should be expected

 

[Chuck 54]

Depends on how Suisham does the rest of the way. If he starts making them like he was earlier in the year with Washington, forget Folk. Suisham has a stronger leg and was making everything before missing two against Dallas. The guy only missed 3 field goals all year.

Unless Folk is making 90 percent, he's just another guy and we have to have a kickoff specialist.