no deal expected for Dockery

[Biggems]

being a Longhorn fan, i was watching that draft hoping DD would go past the skins.....but no...they took him

i have rooted against him ever since. now if he comes here, i can root for him again.

 

[BigDFan5]

I remember his first couple years when he was a penalty-committing machine. I mean horrendous. I assume that part of his resurgence was a drop in penalties. I wonder if anyone has these stats?

I'm skeptical of Dockery (although not quite as much as you) but open to evidence.

Last season Dockery gave up 3 sacks and had 7 penalties called on him, 6 of those were false starts

 

[Biggems]

how many of those false starts happened after the QB change?

 

[fanfromvirginia]

Last season Dockery gave up 3 sacks and had 7 penalties called on him, 6 of those were false starts

Not to sound like too much of a dumb, but is that a lot?

 

[BigDFan5]

Not to sound like too much of a dumb, but is that a lot?

sacks not a whole lot, but thats quite a few false starts



to answer the other question no idea how many came after the qb change

 

[AmishCowboy]

On Second thought maybe it would be funny to sign Him and hear the Deadskin fans whine, it sure sounds like they don't want to lose him.

 

[5mics]

I've been saying for some time that assuming we sign Colombo, that Dockery may be a more doable option for JJ than Steinbach/Deilman.

I thought he really started to show improvement last year.

Agreed, I think he's about to blossom coming into his 4th year. I'd love to see him at ORG!

 

[Alexander]

Yeah I just buzzed by ES and they're pretty much freaking out about it. Good stuff.

I'd love to have him here.

Actually, the fact they believe he is a talent should scare you away.

 

[dbair1967]

Actually, the fact they believe he is a talent should scare you away.

I agree...

only at ES cant you find out that Dockery is 2x the player Larry Allen was in his prime

David

 

[dbair1967]

Agreed, I think he's about to blossom coming into his 4th year. I'd love to see him at ORG!

yeah, a few more trips through the chow line tends to make some folks "blossom"

David

 

[big dog cowboy]

yeah, a few more trips through the chow line tends to make some folks "blossom"

David

You gotta remember, those plates are awfully small.

 

[TEK2000]

yeah, a few more trips through the chow line tends to make some folks "blossom"

David

How many games have you watched and focused on primarily him? I'd like to know more than just "chow line" remarks about him.

He committed 7 false starts and ONE holding penalty all of last season. In comparison... Marco Rivera had 2 False Starts and THREE holding penalties. Rivera had few penalties but MORE penalty yardage.
Flozell Adams had 5 false starts and 1 holding penalty and allowed 7.5 sacks.
Dockery allowed 3 sacks... Rivera allowed 3.5 sacks.
Kosier had 2 false starts, 3 holding penalties, and allowed 5 sacks last season (most of his sacks allowed came against stunts between him and Flo from what I remember)

Here is what I wrote on another forum during a discussion about Derrick Dockery:
(note that this is the only game I really focused on watching Dockery so its just a 1 game analysis)

Just watched the Commanders vs Colts 2006 and Derrick Dockery would be a quantum leap improvement over Marco Rivera.

Don't let the listing of his size fool you.. he is NO late career Larry Allen. Larry Allen was very sluggish, slow and clumsy the past few years... well Derrick Dockery is MUCH more agile than LA. Seems to have very quick feet for his size, doesn't lunge and get off balance, keeps moving his feet to maintain position, keeps looking for people to block in pass protection.

He was 15 yards downfield run blocking on 1 play.

He holds the line of scrimmage very well but he doesn't seem to just blow people out like good ole Larry Allen used to.

EDIT: This guy has some LONG arms. Pretty much... once he's on you, you're blocked and might as well give up. I didn't see any of the Colts quick DLinemen get around him one on one (without the help of a stunt or blitz).

 

[Biggems]

well the skins did change their offense last year.....had some new personnel.....and then during the season they changed to a younger QB....these kinds of things can cause some communication problems on the field.

 

[TEK2000]

False starts by Dockery occured as follows:

1 vs Vikings week 1
1 vs Giants week 5
1 vs Eagles week 10
1 vs Panthers week 12
1 vs Eagles week 14
1 vs Saints week 15

I don't remember what week it was that Campbell became the starter.. somebody help me out.

 

[adamknite]

I agree...

only at ES cant you find out that Dockery is 2x the player Larry Allen was in his prime

David

going to ES is usually good for a quick laugh.....

 

[adamknite]

False starts by Dockery occured as follows:

1 vs Vikings week 1
1 vs Giants week 5
1 vs Eagles week 10
1 vs Panthers week 12
1 vs Eagles week 14
1 vs Saints week 15

I don't remember what week it was that Campbell became the starter.. somebody help me out.

He started 7 games so I believe it was week 10.

 

[AmishCowboy]

As much as the Commander Losers like him now, As soon as he signs with the Cowboys he will be a No talent Bum that they were glad to see go, then they will sign some over the hill Guy for way too much money.

 

[bbgun]

As a closet Skins fan, I was very impressed by his play last year. But I wonder if it was him or the fact that all his o-line mates were more or less completely healthy and working in tandem.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

sacks not a whole lot, but thats quite a few false starts



to answer the other question no idea how many came after the qb change

But only one other than the false starts and false starts, as annoying as they are, are about the least harmful of OL penalties (holding, chop blocks to name 2 off the top of my head.)

This doesn't seem that bad. And he did it on a bad offense.

 

[cowboyed]

his agent just said that w/ it being so late in the stage, a new deal is not expected for his client, OG Derrick Dockery, so he'll probably be hitting free agency when it starts March 2nd

:laugh2: stupid skins, the fans on ES think it's a matter of the Skins not wanting to pay to keep him, the reality is, they can't, not for what he's probably asking for

The Skins will pay the price for hickory dickory Dockerying.