No FA signing by JJ would've made the Cowboys appreciably better in 2024

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The Eagles core group was stronger than the Cowboys. No offseason signing would've put a dent in that gap. Fact is, the Eagles have been the best team in football for two and a half years. Should've won the SB two years ago--had a 10-1 record to start last season(2023)--this year they blew the doors off down the stretch. Over the past few years the Eagles have beaten the Chiefs twice -- the Bills --- Ravens -- Bengals -- the best the AFC has to offer.

The Eagles didn't win because of offseason signings. The offseason signings only strengthen what was already a championship core. Then add in their most important addition to the team in 2024... the defensive coordinator (how did he make that lateral move?)

The time for JJ to be proactive in trying to strengthen a championship level core for the Cowboys was in 2021 and 2022

Cowboys signing FA in 2024, would've only reinforced Stephen Jones belief that you don't get your bang for your buck in FA

And I believe the Cowboys were more of a 9 or 10 win team in 2023. Fact is, the Cowboys had about 4 or 5 games that year that they couldn't lose even if they wanted too

The 35-10 loss to Buffalo and the beatdown at SF is who they really were. And then not being able to put away a weak Dolphin's team

Ironic thing is, the FA losses are actually doing more damage to the team than the lack of FA signings

Cowboys lost four starting offensive linemen since 2021?

Four wide receivers? Go look at the group from 2021 compared to this one

Two running backs?

How many defensive linemen? At least two this past offseason

Dak's most reliable target. Dalton

Cowboys have been hit as hard as they were in the 90s. I know some of these guys would have needed to be replaced anyway but even JJ biggest detractor has to admit in good faith that even the best GM would need a season or two to regroup. Right?
 
Gameover said:
Four wide receivers? Go look at the group from 2021 compared to this one
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85 Noah Brown
16 Reggie Davis
6 Johnnie Dixon
83 Brennan Eagles
81 Simi Fehoko
13 Michael Gallup
88 CeeDee Lamb
14 Osirus Mitchell
18 Aaron Parker
80 Brandon Smith
17 Malik Turner
1 Cedrick Wilson Jr.

Here is the 2021 WR corp. What am I missing?
 
Are you absolving Jerry because no FA(FA’s) would help the abysmal team he assembled? :huh:

As for Fangio, it wasn’t a lateral move, he and the Dolphins mutually parted ways.
 
Blackrain said:
If the Cowboys signed saquon Barkley and makai becton the whole landscape of the NFC East would have been changed.

We signed Zeke instead and forced rookies to start on our offensive line that weren't ready to play.
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One rookie more so than the other
 
Gameover said:
The Eagles core group was stronger than the Cowboys. No offseason signing would've put a dent in that gap. Fact is, the Eagles have been the best team in football for two and a half years. Should've won the SB two years ago--had a 10-1 record to start last season(2023)--this year they blew the doors off down the stretch. Over the past few years the Eagles have beaten the Chiefs twice -- the Bills --- Ravens -- Bengals -- the best the AFC has to offer.

The Eagles didn't win because of offseason signings. The offseason signings only strengthen what was already a championship core. Then add in their most important addition to the team in 2024... the defensive coordinator (how did he make that lateral move?)

The time for JJ to be proactive in trying to strengthen a championship level core for the Cowboys was in 2021 and 2022

Cowboys signing FA in 2024, would've only reinforced Stephen Jones belief that you don't get your bang for your buck in FA

And I believe the Cowboys were more of a 9 or 10 win team in 2023. Fact is, the Cowboys had about 4 or 5 games that year that they couldn't lose even if they wanted too

The 35-10 loss to Buffalo and the beatdown at SF is who they really were. And then not being able to put away a weak Dolphin's team

Ironic thing is, the FA losses are actually doing more damage to the team than the lack of FA signings

Cowboys lost four starting offensive linemen since 2021?

Four wide receivers? Go look at the group from 2021 compared to this one

Two running backs?

How many defensive linemen? At least two this past offseason

Dak's most reliable target. Dalton

Cowboys have been hit as hard as they were in the 90s. I know some of these guys would have needed to be replaced anyway but even JJ biggest detractor has to admit in good faith that even the best GM would need a season or two to regroup. Right?
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I agree 1000%. This team reached a level where they should have only been evaluated by how we performed against good teams. Those games indicate who we really are. Since the home playoff loss to the 49ers 3 years ago, this team has gotten progressively worse. Jerry..thinking like an ARROGANT FAN....thought it was an aberration and downgraded the talent from that team. Somehow we managed to win 12 games the following year. Lost to the 49ers AGAIN.....downgraded the talent AGAIN...we won 12 games AGAIN..then the bottom COMPLETLY fell out against the Packers. We have not recovered since..and we will not recover next year.

There are so many reasons why he is unfit to be a GM....but not understanding that your record during the regular season is not the ONLY metric that should be used to assess the quality of the roster....one of the PRIMARY responsibilities of a GM is to have a good feel for not only the quality of his own roster....but the quality of his competitors rosters....and his deficiency in this area will NEVER allow us to succeed with him running the show.

Signing Saquon may not have gotten us to the Super Bowl.....but the Eagles don't make and win the Super Bowl this year without him. That is what a REAL GM does....he added an AFFORDABLE piece to push his roster to the next level!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I'm not one to pedantically keep receipts on precisely who are the hypocrites, but as one of the too-few last off-season who was skeptical of this idea so widely accepted here that the Cowboys have some magic touch when it comes to drafting and then inserting as starters their rookie linemen.

Here just to say... you were wrong... a whole friggin bunch of you reading this right now were ice cold wrong.

I tend to agree with the OP as a consequence, at least for all those whining we should've signed experienced successful running backs and wideouts.

If you don't have the O-line--and especially don't have a center and a left tackle--that are going to perform as stand outs, then that on its own neutralizes to a huge degree any success you can hope to see from the skill positions.

And worse... if there is such a thing... on the other side of the ball, of course, you lost your first one, two, three, four edges. That's just incredible and absurd. That rarely if ever has happened to a team.

It's a tried-and-truism... you have to have the trenches well taken care-of before you can have any serious ambition in the NFL to have any degree of success.
 
This is a woefully misinformed post. Yeah those FAs which includes and MVP candidate and a DPOY candidate weren't a massive part of the reason they won. It's almost like you didn't watch any of their games
 
cowboyec said:
i'd love to have seen the difference made or not made by derrick henry on last season.
LOVE to have seen it.
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Henry’s 2025 cap hit is 12M

im sure Baltimore will entertain trade offers.

cheaper to draft our RB1 in the 1st round.
 
Gameover said:
The Eagles core group was stronger than the Cowboys. No offseason signing would've put a dent in that gap. Fact is, the Eagles have been the best team in football for two and a half years. Should've won the SB two years ago--had a 10-1 record to start last season(2023)--this year they blew the doors off down the stretch. Over the past few years the Eagles have beaten the Chiefs twice -- the Bills --- Ravens -- Bengals -- the best the AFC has to offer.

The Eagles didn't win because of offseason signings. The offseason signings only strengthen what was already a championship core. Then add in their most important addition to the team in 2024... the defensive coordinator (how did he make that lateral move?)

The time for JJ to be proactive in trying to strengthen a championship level core for the Cowboys was in 2021 and 2022

Cowboys signing FA in 2024, would've only reinforced Stephen Jones belief that you don't get your bang for your buck in FA

And I believe the Cowboys were more of a 9 or 10 win team in 2023. Fact is, the Cowboys had about 4 or 5 games that year that they couldn't lose even if they wanted too

The 35-10 loss to Buffalo and the beatdown at SF is who they really were. And then not being able to put away a weak Dolphin's team

Ironic thing is, the FA losses are actually doing more damage to the team than the lack of FA signings

Cowboys lost four starting offensive linemen since 2021?

Four wide receivers? Go look at the group from 2021 compared to this one

Two running backs?

How many defensive linemen? At least two this past offseason

Dak's most reliable target. Dalton

Cowboys have been hit as hard as they were in the 90s. I know some of these guys would have needed to be replaced anyway but even JJ biggest detractor has to admit in good faith that even the best GM would need a season or two to regroup. Right?
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One thing we do know is not attempting to get better players will definitely not improve your chances of winning.
 
Gameover said:
The Eagles core group was stronger than the Cowboys. No offseason signing would've put a dent in that gap. Fact is, the Eagles have been the best team in football for two and a half years. Should've won the SB two years ago--had a 10-1 record to start last season(2023)--this year they blew the doors off down the stretch. Over the past few years the Eagles have beaten the Chiefs twice -- the Bills --- Ravens -- Bengals -- the best the AFC has to offer.

The Eagles didn't win because of offseason signings. The offseason signings only strengthen what was already a championship core. Then add in their most important addition to the team in 2024... the defensive coordinator (how did he make that lateral move?)

The time for JJ to be proactive in trying to strengthen a championship level core for the Cowboys was in 2021 and 2022

Cowboys signing FA in 2024, would've only reinforced Stephen Jones belief that you don't get your bang for your buck in FA

And I believe the Cowboys were more of a 9 or 10 win team in 2023. Fact is, the Cowboys had about 4 or 5 games that year that they couldn't lose even if they wanted too

The 35-10 loss to Buffalo and the beatdown at SF is who they really were. And then not being able to put away a weak Dolphin's team

Ironic thing is, the FA losses are actually doing more damage to the team than the lack of FA signings

Cowboys lost four starting offensive linemen since 2021?

Four wide receivers? Go look at the group from 2021 compared to this one

Two running backs?

How many defensive linemen? At least two this past offseason

Dak's most reliable target. Dalton

Cowboys have been hit as hard as they were in the 90s. I know some of these guys would have needed to be replaced anyway but even JJ biggest detractor has to admit in good faith that even the best GM would need a season or two to regroup. Right?
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Doing something in free agency doesn’t make this team better? Really? It could have helped close some of the many holes this team has. They had no running back for half the season. Signing Henry, who didn’t break the bank, would have been big for this team. I’m not saying he has the same year as he did for Baltimore but having a threat of the run game would have changed things. That’s just one free agent.
Doing nothing and saying it was the right thing is a loser mentality.
 
20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing. Doesn't mean a thing when you're looking forward though. At that time you make the moves to be the best you can and live with the outcome.

Booger didn't.
 
It all goes back to Jerry having to sign Dak and Lamb. And Parsons coming up. Jerry was afraid of the cap hell of having to restructure contracts and kick money down the road. Henry might of glorified a couple of those wins with big numbers but he wasn't enough to turn the team into a playoff contender.
 
The Eagles have used free agency and trades brilliantly. But I agree, they have also drafted really well the last few years. I also agree they have had an all-star team the last 3 years. But that doesn't stop them from adding a few players here and there to become even better.

Let's not forget in 2020 the Eagles were 4-11-1. They made some good trades to acquire high draft picks. They also allowed players like Javon Hargrave to leave in free agency, because they prepared by drafting Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis. Last year they traded their top pass rusher to the Jets rather than pay him more money. They do not think, "we like our guys" and that's it. They like their guys until they can get someone better.

The Eagles have a plan, an identity, they follow. Their offensive and defensive lines are not dominant by accident. They planned that all along. The Cowboys plan seems to be Dak, CeeDee and Micah will carry the rest of the team. That is never going to work no matter how well those three guys play.

Last off season was the Cowboys philosophy in a nutshell. They let a bunch of guys leave rather than pay them, and they replaced them with cheaper, lesser players. Then they hoped rookies would come in and make a splash. The Cowboys fear the CAP while the Eagles use it to their advantage. As has been pointed out by Stephen Jones, the Eagles will face the music one day. With $418 million in contracts pushed into voidable contract years between now and 2029, the Eagles will one day be forced to work with lesser players too. Except they Paid Zack Baun and Mekhi Becton peanuts in 2024 and won a Super Bowl. There is an expertise there that Jerry lacks. I am not so convinced that Howie Roseman and the Eagles will have to pay the piper one day. I am more curious about how they avoid paying the piper. Respect.

There was a time not long ago when the Cowboys offensive line was respected as one of the best. Look at it now. Its like when the wife gets the house in the divorce and let's it fall into disrepair because she has no clue how to fix anything or the resources to fix it. The same with the RBs, WRs, and DL.

The fact is Jerry and Stephen are just not good enough to run this team. The don't have the know-how or the courage to do what it takes. I would gladly see them go all in and mortgage the future 5 years from now in order to win multiple Super Bowls.
 
Creeper said:
The Eagles have used free agency and trades brilliantly. But I agree, they have also drafted really well the last few years. I also agree they have had an all-star team the last 3 years. But that doesn't stop them from adding a few players here and there to become even better.

Let's not forget in 2020 the Eagles were 4-11-1. They made some good trades to acquire high draft picks. They also allowed players like Javon Hargrave to leave in free agency, because they prepared by drafting Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis. Last year they traded their top pass rusher to the Jets rather than pay him more money. They do not think, "we like our guys" and that's it. They like their guys until they can get someone better.

The Eagles have a plan, an identity, they follow. Their offensive and defensive lines are not dominant by accident. They planned that all along. The Cowboys plan seems to be Dak, CeeDee and Micah will carry the rest of the team. That is never going to work no matter how well those three guys play.

Last off season was the Cowboys philosophy in a nutshell. They let a bunch of guys leave rather than pay them, and they replaced them with cheaper, lesser players. Then they hoped rookies would come in and make a splash. The Cowboys fear the CAP while the Eagles use it to their advantage. As has been pointed out by Stephen Jones, the Eagles will face the music one day. With $418 million in contracts pushed into voidable contract years between now and 2029, the Eagles will one day be forced to work with lesser players too. Except they Paid Zack Baun and Mekhi Becton peanuts in 2024 and won a Super Bowl. There is an expertise there that Jerry lacks. I am not so convinced that Howie Roseman and the Eagles will have to pay the piper one day. I am more curious about how they avoid paying the piper. Respect.

There was a time not long ago when the Cowboys offensive line was respected as one of the best. Look at it now. Its like when the wife gets the house in the divorce and let's it fall into disrepair because she has no clue how to fix anything or the resources to fix it. The same with the RBs, WRs, and DL.

The fact is Jerry and Stephen are just not good enough to run this team. The don't have the know-how or the courage to do what it takes. I would gladly see them go all in and mortgage the future 5 years from now in order to win multiple Super Bowls.
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Really? What exactly is it they don't understand?
 
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