No Greg Hardy ruling yet, too many days later

[xwalker]

He has a LIPO* score of 226


* LIPO score is likes to posts ratio out of 1000

Yours is pretty solid at 496

Cool. I didn't realize that ratio had an official name.

 

[cowboyblue22]

this is simply a delay tactic by the nfl to keep him out as long as possible before the hearing thy will delay and delay until the 10 game suspension is complete

 

[big dog cowboy]

***Stop the personal jabs now***

 

[risco]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/06/14/no-hardy-ruling-yet-17-days-later/


Certain types of NFL disciplinary appeals apply a firm deadline for reaching a decision. The Personal Conduct Policy does not.

Conducted under Rule 46 of the labor deal, the hearing officer is required to issue a written decision “[a]s soon as practicable” after the completion of the hearing.

In the case of Cowboys defensive end Greg Hardy, the hearing on his 10-game suspension ended 17 days ago. In theory, a ruling could come at any time.

From Hardy’s perspective, the sooner arbitrator Harold Henderson issues a ruling, the better. If Hardy chooses to go to court to challenge the outcome, the more time Hardy has before the start of the regular season, the better chance he’ll have to get a ruling from federal court.

No news is good news at this point...

 

[xwalker]

this is simply a delay tactic by the nfl to keep him out as long as possible before the hearing thy will delay and delay until the 10 game suspension is complete

It's difficult to know. They say it is normally 2 weeks and it's now around 17 days so it's not an extreme delay yet.

 

[AsthmaField]

Hardy wasn't found guilty.

I took his comment to mean that Hardy was found guilty by the NFL investigation and so was sentenced by Goodell.

That statement I just said makes me feel ridiculous for even saying it. "Found guilty by the NFL and sentenced by Goodell".

 

[xwalker]

I took his comment to mean that Hardy was found guilty by the NFL investigation and so was sentenced by Goodell.

That statement I just said makes me feel ridiculous for even saying it. "Found guilty by the NFL and sentenced by Goodell".

The NFL would makes things much easier for themselves if they would just tie the punishment to the results from the legal system. They could have a predefined punishment for each level of legal system violation from misdemeanor through to felonies.

The current system requires the NFL to do their own investigation which, IMO, is silly. We have a vast and complex legal system in this country. There is no reason for the NFL to try and duplicate that with it's own system.

IMO, the NFL should test for performance enhancing drugs and just use the results of the legal system to determine other punishments.

 

[Hoofbite]

He has a LIPO* score of 226


* LIPO score is likes to posts ratio out of 1000

Yours is pretty solid at 496

People actually track this?

 

[Irvin88_4life]

missed 15 games with pay, NFL doesn't view that as a suspension, nor should they really. Had he been found guilty, do you think he should have been cleared to start week 1?

Thats the thing though he wasn't found guilty, he shouldn't miss any games. That's the problem

 

[big dog cowboy]

People actually track this?

They shouldn't because the numbers they come up with are wrong.

 

[AzorAhai]

The NFL would makes things much easier for themselves if they would just tie the punishment to the results from the legal system. They could have a predefined punishment for each level of legal system violation from misdemeanor through to felonies.

The current system requires the NFL to do their own investigation which, IMO, is silly. We have a vast and complex legal system in this country. There is no reason for the NFL to try and duplicate that with it's own system.

IMO, the NFL should test for performance enhancing drugs and just use the results of the legal system to determine other punishments.

That's exactly how it should be handled. Isn't that basically how it had been handled in the majority of cases pre Ray Rice? That one incident shouldn't have had that big of an affect on how these subsequent incidents are handled. The second a punishment system allows PR to play even a miniscule part, they have already failed.

 

[Hoofbite]

They shouldn't because the numbers they come up with are wrong.

Even if they were right, who actually cares?

What info is being pulled from a LIPO score? A number of posters have posting histories that predate the like system by a decade.

 

[guag]

Imagine you are Samsung and your competitor is Apple. Let's say in some scenario you are prevented from selling any phones on the market for two years, but your profits remain the same. Would you be okay with this? Or would you still recognize that your inability to be competitive for two years has diminished your market share?

By not playing in games, Hardy is not able to showcase his ability. He can not create a brand for himself. Other players who are ranked similarly to him now leap frog him on the market, because they have a lengthier resume. His ability to become a hall of fame player in regards to stats is also diminished.

Anyone who suggests that a year away from football paid or unpaid isn't a punishment clearly doesn't understand disciplinary action or business.

This x10.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

You're countering opinions, but I have yet to see your opinion on the matter stated. How many games should Hardy miss for his alleged crime that was later dismissed?

how many games should he miss, I'm honestly not sure. I know Rothlisberger was never found guilty and was suspended 6 games, but I think they used the fact that he was providing alcohol to underage college students to make it stick. I'm not exactly sure what is in the testimony that got turned over, but considering the old policy was 2 games, that is the max he "should" serve. However if he is offered 4, he should take it.

 

[AzorAhai]

how many games should he miss, I'm honestly not sure. I know Rothlisberger was never found guilty and was suspended 6 games, but I think they used the fact that he was providing alcohol to underage college students to make it stick. I'm not exactly sure what is in the testimony that got turned over, but considering the old policy was 2 games, that is the max he "should" serve. However if he is offered 4, he should take it.

2 games was the max for domestic violence. Roethlisberger was suspended under the Personal Conduct Policy which is completely different.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Even if they were right, who actually cares?

What info is being pulled from a LIPO score? A number of posters have posting histories that predate the like system by a decade.

Look at the big brain on Hoof. Someone figured it out.

 

[JoeKing]

The delay is Goodell's way of flexing his muscles. He already knows the arbitrator is going to uphold the full 10 games.

 

[Plumfool]

I understand why people say that missing games with pay is no punishment... but I do know that police officers, etc. that are "suspended with pay", still look at that as being punished.

I'm glad you said it. talking with other officers when they have been even given admin leave they say it feels like a punishment.

 

[Hoofbite]

Look at the big brain on Hoof. Someone figured it out.

If it weren't for the blatant sarcasm, I would have liked this post.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If it weren't for the blatant sarcasm, I would have liked this post.

Really hoping you would catch the Pulp Fiction reference. Still, good catch by you.