CFZ No guts no glory

[tyke1doe]

I thought the whole issue with Dak's contract delay was that they were looking at different time periods. I think they wanted a longer term contract than he wanted.

That could be the case. I can't remember all the details and too busy/lazy to look them up.

 

[J-man]

I do not have the patience or desire or time to constantly engage in trolling/bickering with the an opposing viewpoint if there is zero chance in me or them altering viewpoints because of the argument.

I do like to see other opinions and perspectives, which is why I even spend time on the board. So please share your thoughts on the following if you can manage (apologies for a long post).

My general belief is that the Cowboys’ front office main goal as a franchise for the past 3 decades has been to ensure they do not give a “get fired” effort. I’ve worked alongside literally several hundred different people throughout my career and realize the majority out there put an effort that I would categorize as middle of the road effort when compared to the whole spectrum of workers.

Going to the extreme and working as though tomorrow could be your last is usually reserved for a business owner that really needs/desires the business to excel financially. Or for someone desperate to move forward aggressively in their career path. Neither of these profiles fit for the Jones’ family for the last 3 decades.

The big motivator for them is to not finish at the bottom of the standings routinely. That would be potentially damaging to TV ratings and general interest in the squad (which the media, league execs, and team ownership value more than big wins). The current Cowboys’ model is to ensure middle of the road to slightly above average performance.

This is the point where so many on here get into arguments about the squad. Fans are not the ones that must put in the actual extreme work to turn mediocrity into greatness. They are also not the ones risking millions of dollars because of poor or radical decisions.

I am in the category of fans that are okay with awful results in the short term for a better chance at long term great success. I understand that you cannot guarantee long term success with ANY method. I have very little interest in the squad in the current version though. This keep your nose above water at all costs approach is like watching a body slowly decay.

In my opinion, that is how the decision to extend Dak is viewed by many fans. They understand he is not the worst option (even from the staunchest trolls). They probably are like me in that the decision was essentially a front office firm decision to keep the team’s nose above water for the foreseeable future. Without him, the team runs the risk of finishing last place in the division (perhaps for several years). I do not care about that risk (as a fan). I only care about the team putting together a squad that can make a conference championship game 1-2 times a decade and at least one Super Bowl appearance in that time frame (as a fan).

Would you rather make the playoffs 6 times in one decade with 9 out of 10 years finishing above last place (no conference championship games) OR make the playoffs in only 3 years with one super bowl appearance and 1 other conference championship game (but 5 last place finishes)? I’m for the latter option if you cannot tell.

I do not have the patience or desire or time to read all of this.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I do not have the patience or desire or time to constantly engage in trolling/bickering with the an opposing viewpoint if there is zero chance in me or them altering viewpoints because of the argument.

I do like to see other opinions and perspectives, which is why I even spend time on the board. So please share your thoughts on the following if you can manage (apologies for a long post).

My general belief is that the Cowboys’ front office main goal as a franchise for the past 3 decades has been to ensure they do not give a “get fired” effort. I’ve worked alongside literally several hundred different people throughout my career and realize the majority out there put an effort that I would categorize as middle of the road effort when compared to the whole spectrum of workers.

Going to the extreme and working as though tomorrow could be your last is usually reserved for a business owner that really needs/desires the business to excel financially. Or for someone desperate to move forward aggressively in their career path. Neither of these profiles fit for the Jones’ family for the last 3 decades.

The big motivator for them is to not finish at the bottom of the standings routinely. That would be potentially damaging to TV ratings and general interest in the squad (which the media, league execs, and team ownership value more than big wins). The current Cowboys’ model is to ensure middle of the road to slightly above average performance.

This is the point where so many on here get into arguments about the squad. Fans are not the ones that must put in the actual extreme work to turn mediocrity into greatness. They are also not the ones risking millions of dollars because of poor or radical decisions.

I am in the category of fans that are okay with awful results in the short term for a better chance at long term great success. I understand that you cannot guarantee long term success with ANY method. I have very little interest in the squad in the current version though. This keep your nose above water at all costs approach is like watching a body slowly decay.

In my opinion, that is how the decision to extend Dak is viewed by many fans. They understand he is not the worst option (even from the staunchest trolls). They probably are like me in that the decision was essentially a front office firm decision to keep the team’s nose above water for the foreseeable future. Without him, the team runs the risk of finishing last place in the division (perhaps for several years). I do not care about that risk (as a fan). I only care about the team putting together a squad that can make a conference championship game 1-2 times a decade and at least one Super Bowl appearance in that time frame (as a fan).

Would you rather make the playoffs 6 times in one decade with 9 out of 10 years finishing above last place (no conference championship games) OR make the playoffs in only 3 years with one super bowl appearance and 1 other conference championship game (but 5 last place finishes)? I’m for the latter option if you cannot tell.

I would rather make the NFCCG or Superbowl at least once in 28+ years....oh well....we look like the Cubs. perhaps it won't last 99 years.

 

[shabazz]

I prefer the Rams FO style since we live in a salary cap world. Trade up in drafts, trade for veterans and wheel and deal. They manipulate the salary cap, get championships and then blow it up to get under it.

can’t keep dynasties like they could pre salary cap. Get to then SB every 5 years and disregard the 4 crappy years in between Lombardi trophys

 

[McKDaddy]

My stance is that their first priority is treading water. Winning big is an ancillary prize-not a real objective.

I think they're trying to win, but they want to do it their way, thinking they know how, when they really don't.

I agree with both these posts plus XWalker's post. I don't think it's a yes \ no answer as it seems to change depending on circumstances. I think they want to win and are trying but they too often tie themselves to the wrong people or philosophies.
I certainly can see evidence of "marketing" and "keeping the brand in the headlines" being the priority at times. It also seems to peak when it appears they realize the team isn't going to be very good and they decide to pump up the publicity to keep them attractive to league \ sports coverage thus relevant financially.
Bottom line, they haven't figured out the formula since Johnson's cupboard ran bare. Honestly, it will probably take a perfect storm (like Parsons, Smith, Diggs, etc., all becoming monsters) for the talent to overcome the disfunction. Even then, they will probably think they are responsible and will be even more convinced they can always do it their way.

 

[Runwildboys]

I agree with both these posts plus XWalker's post. I don't think it's a yes \ no answer as it seems to change depending on circumstances. I think they want to win and are trying but they too often tie themselves to the wrong people or philosophies.
I certainly can see evidence of "marketing" and "keeping the brand in the headlines" being the priority at times. It also seems to peak when it appears they realize the team isn't going to be very good and they decide to pump up the publicity to keep them attractive to league \ sports coverage thus relevant financially.
Bottom line, they haven't figured out the formula since Johnson's cupboard ran bare. Honestly, it will probably take a perfect storm (like Parsons, Smith, Diggs, etc., all becoming monsters) for the talent to overcome the disfunction. Even then, they will probably think they are responsible and will be even more convinced they can always do it their way.

The Blind Squirrel Syndrome would definitely keep them from changing anything about how they do things, unless accidentally winning once is all they'd need to "prove" they're football guys, and at that point maybe they'd just hand the reins over to Will McClay.