No More Crying

[Clove]

It's hard to predict with any certainty how a player will turn out, as long as you don't base your success on bargains in the later rounds. Stick to drafting great players in the first 4 rounds.

 

[Hoofbite]

If you truly believe this line of thinking you should never comment on a draft pick until you see the results.

I don't need results to make a comment if the player taken is basically limited in his ability to contribute based on the position he plays. By all accounts Tavon Austin is going to be an excellent player. He's not going to be better than Dez so unless Dez is unable to play for some reason, Austin wouldn't be anything more than a #2. I'll comfortably say he wouldn't be more productive than Dez on this team. I'll say this without having spent hours watching multiple games of his because WRs who can foreseeably be projected to be that good don't last that long in the draft. Not unless they have serious luggage or a horrible reputation. That said, Dallas takes Austin and I won't like the pick because I don't think you spend 1st round draft picks to get a career #2 WR.

You clearly don't trust yourself to be intelligent enough to do so.

Or I just don't care to invest the time to do so. I don't care for the game and won't watch the game simply so I can make an "informed" decision regarding which player should be taken and where.

What kind of benefits come with such an investment? Do I get a certificate or Eagle Scout Draft Badge? Do you give people an official "jterrell Seal of Approval". Something like that might make it worth it.

I don't care to spend the kind of time necessary to gain "internet credibility" regarding the draft.

Personally I don;t hold anyone to a higher standard than I hold myself.
Tends to help avoid being a whining hypocrite.

Oh really?

You mean to say that you choose home remedies over going to the doctor when you're severely sick? You don't hold your primary care provider to a higher standard in terms of diagnosing and developing a treatment plan than you hold yourself to?

I know this probably sounds good because in a moral sense it's actually an admirable trait to possess. But, outside of the moral applicability and in a realm where people are paid based on their perceived ability to perform a task more efficiently or make better decisions this is about as wise as making a coin flip the most significant factor in any decision making process that you might have.

I wouldn't hire a plumber if I was confident I could do the job just as well or just as timely myself. I know I can't do it all that well and I would expect a good number of faults to be the result of my plumbing. That said, if the plumber I hire makes just as many mistakes as I would have you better believe I'm not going to just accept it because I couldn't have done it any better had I tried. No, I'll be pissed because I paid someone who has experience and is supposed to be an expert to do a task that I myself cannot.

Admirable trait to possess in the moral spectrum, foolish one to possess in a competitive arena where better compensation comes from better performance and leads to higher expectations.

 

[Hoofbite]

Rick Gossellin who is far from a Cowboys homer has shown Dallas ranks middle of the road in drafting the last decade. They are about where they should be given middle of the road draft status during that time.

What does he base this on? I know he puts out a pretty highly regarded board but doesn't he just collect opinions and compile them? Is that what he's using for this ranking, what players were taken at what position compared to how he had them ranked?

 

[jterrell]

I don't need results to make a comment if the player taken is basically limited in his ability to contribute based on the position he plays. By all accounts Tavon Austin is going to be an excellent player. He's not going to be better than Dez so unless Dez is unable to play for some reason, Austin wouldn't be anything more than a #2. I'll comfortably say he wouldn't be more productive than Dez on this team. I'll say this without having spent hours watching multiple games of his because WRs who can foreseeably be projected to be that good don't last that long in the draft. Not unless they have serious luggage or a horrible reputation. That said, Dallas takes Austin and I won't like the pick because I don't think you spend 1st round draft picks to get a career #2 WR.



Or I just don't care to invest the time to do so. I don't care for the game and won't watch the game simply so I can make an "informed" decision regarding which player should be taken and where.

What kind of benefits come with such an investment? Do I get a certificate or Eagle Scout Draft Badge? Do you give people an official "jterrell Seal of Approval". Something like that might make it worth it.

I don't care to spend the kind of time necessary to gain "internet credibility" regarding the draft.



Oh really?

You mean to say that you choose home remedies over going to the doctor when you're severely sick? You don't hold your primary care provider to a higher standard in terms of diagnosing and developing a treatment plan than you hold yourself to?

I know this probably sounds good because in a moral sense it's actually an admirable trait to possess. But, outside of the moral applicability and in a realm where people are paid based on their perceived ability to perform a task more efficiently or make better decisions this is about as wise as making a coin flip the most significant factor in any decision making process that you might have.

I wouldn't hire a plumber if I was confident I could do the job just as well or just as timely myself. I know I can't do it all that well and I would expect a good number of faults to be the result of my plumbing. That said, if the plumber I hire makes just as many mistakes as I would have you better believe I'm not going to just accept it because I couldn't have done it any better had I tried. No, I'll be pissed because I paid someone who has experience and is supposed to be an expert to do a task that I myself cannot.

Admirable trait to possess in the moral spectrum, foolish one to possess in a competitive arena where better compensation comes from better performance and leads to higher expectations.

You have time to whine but not watch football??
Got it.

As to the other nonsense.

If I go to the doctor I let him decide the course of action.
If I go in and tell him I need allergy medicine I don't go home mad because he didn't treat my dandruff. I hold him accountable for treating me given information I provide.

If he says use Mucinex and I say I hate that stuff and he says but it is great so use it and I take it and feel terrible. I will complain.

Same with a plumber.
If I hire a guy to fix a leak and he does so I am not going to be mad because I have a leaky faucet somewhere else in the house. I take responsibility for my own lack of information sharing.

Experts can and should overrule us. However, If we want to second guess them we need to at least have an opinion first.

Or you are just crying to cry. Guess that is more fun than watching football.

 

[jterrell]

What does he base this on? I know he puts out a pretty highly regarded board but doesn't he just collect opinions and compile them? Is that what he's using for this ranking, what players were taken at what position compared to how he had them ranked?

He has some formula based on making an active NFL roster and on NFL starts. Also number remaining with drafting team. Dallas fared very well with number in NFL and in NFL starts but was below average in number remaining on the team.

Ironically the "best" drafting teams weren't the ones we think of as great front offices: NE, BMore et al. It was teams who simply held and played bad draftees from what I recall.

 

[TwoDeep3]

First of all I NEVER suggested YOU did anything! Get over yourself!
You came into MY post not the other way around.. and by the way don't dare ever talk to me with your condescending comment about posting "any length of time"...I've been here for years homeboy. I just don't say much unless it strikes me to do so. So don't judge a book by its cover. Just because I have low post count doesn't make me naive or uneducated.. I read almost every post on here. Most of them aren't even worth responding to. Much like anything else you decide to put on here..I'm done with you and your high and mighty post count...I'll just bow down and keep my mouth shut ol ' great one.

Then perhaps when you make "you" comments in a reply to someone, you should think about indicating that you means people in general and not leave it reading as if you are pointing a finger at someone.

So my bad for taking you literally. I apologize.

As to your comment that I got into your post, this is a rough and tumble place. If you put your opinion out there, people will respond.

But then you've been here so long one would think you would have observed this by now.

No?

Then head's up!