No! No! No! Cowboys are looking at Mays again per sources

Dough Boy;3350271 said:
Whats your defintion of seeing a player? All 22 view. On tv. Live action. And whats a lot. 4 games, 18 games. I'm just curious.

On TV, I live in the southern region so I see more of those teams, I can't really say how many times i've seen a certain player play but a team like USC for example i've seen Taylor Mays play quite a bit.
 
cowboyjoe;3350272 said:
the deal about mays, is that some teams say he should be moved to linebacker, thats what im afraid of the cowboys thinking about, he just doesnt have instincts to making plays like interceptions, forced fumbles,

i believe like parcells always said, you are what you are;
granted, darren woodson was moved from linebacker to safety, but darren made plays on the field, mays does not

Here is the deal that most often over look. The draft is about projection. Can you project this player in your scheme. I've never seen Mays play (I must admit) but based on what I read, he is not a cover FS. But he does have some tools. Can you coach up what he has to fit your scheme. Based on what I read, I was one of the first ppl to consider a move to ILB ala Donnie Edwards for Wade. Wade says that he designs his scheme around the players strenghth, and based on what I read, what Mays does well, he does it exceptionally well.

So the question, does he project well to what Wade is trying to accomplish. Only Wade and the Scouts know for sure. If we draft him, I'm ok. If we pass I'm ok. Those guys do this for a living.
 
Just like with Bryant, they're probably doing their due dilligence expecting Mays to be available
 
CATCH17;3350289 said:
On TV, I live in the southern region so I see more of those teams, I can't really say how many times i've seen a certain player play but a team like USC for example i've seen Taylor Mays play quite a bit.

I've never saw Mays play, other than YouTube highlights/lowlights. Even if I did, as I wrote earlier, I trust the scouts and Wade to project mays strenghth into the scheme. I'm not for or against. Wade did not draft Roy and we must admit Roy was limited for an AA standpoint. Mays has some tools. Maybe he moves to ILB although I doubt that if we take him in the 1st. Maybe Wade designs a Robber (LB/Saftey) roll for him. I dunno, but our scouts have been money lately. Plus, they do this full time and they have the benefit of projecting to our scheme. Inside information that we do not have.

But, the last thing I want to see is another Roy38 in coverage. So, I hope the scouts and Wade get it right if they do take him. I'm the perfect Monday morning QB, if they get this wrong. LOL
 
Dough Boy;3350307 said:
I've never saw Mays play, other than YouTube highlights/lowlights. Even if I did, as I wrote earlier, I trust the scouts and Wade to project mays strenghth into the scheme. I'm not for or against. Wade did not draft Roy and we must admit Roy was limited for an AA standpoint. Mays has some tools. Maybe he moves to ILB although I doubt that if we take him in the 1st. Maybe Wade designs a Robber (LB/Saftey) roll for him. I dunno, but our scouts have been money lately. Plus, they do this full time and they have the benefit of projecting to our scheme. Inside information that we do not have.

But, the last thing I want to see is another Roy38 in coverage. So, I hope the scouts and Wade get it right if they do take him. I'm the perfect Monday morning QB, if they get this wrong. LOL

If Mays gets drafted to play ILB than 3 things pop up in my mind.

1. Is he physical enough at the point of contact to play that position in a 3-4.

2. Is he big enough.

3. Do the Cowboys not like Jason Williams?


Taylor Mays @ linebacker would be nothing but a role player in the nickel package and a special teams guy for us.
 
I personally think he doesn't tackle all that well. He does a lot of shoulder tackles instead of wrapping up. I do love all the intanigibles though.
 
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It has to be smoke.

Dude is more like Bobby Carpenter than Roy L Williams.

Great physical attributes, should be better than he is, but is simply not a football player.

Roy was a much better tackler as well.
 
CATCH17;3350154 said:
He didn't coach up Roy Williams or Ken Hamlin.

Roy "Biscuit" Williams was slower than my abuela and Hamlin forgot how to hit and tackle. At least Mays has speed and likes to hit.
 
cowboyjoe;3350105 said:
NO! but reports are from 2 reliable sources the cowboys are going to bring in and look at Mays the safety again.

per cowboys.scout.com

They are probably doing this because they now expect Mays to still be there around when they pick. Good idea for them to make absolutely sure that they know everything they can about this guy before they get on the clock.
 
Nate Allen is a better fit for our 3-4 scheme than Taylor Mays is. We already have a starting SS in Sensabaugh so what we need is an FS which Taylor Mays isn't and Nate Allen is. We want a cover safety and Taylor Mays is RW31 when it comes to coverage.
 
CATCH17;3350326 said:
If Mays gets drafted to play ILB than 3 things pop up in my mind.

1. Is he physical enough at the point of contact to play that position in a 3-4.

2. Is he big enough.

3. Do the Cowboys not like Jason Williams?


Taylor Mays @ linebacker would be nothing but a role player in the nickel package and a special teams guy for us.

On that I beg to differ. Think Donnie Edwards. Was much smaller, and less physical than Mays but excelled in Wades 3-4.
 
Did you guys see Mays at the combine. He won't be able to cover in this league. Period. There's no coaching that up. He's too stiff and awkward.
 
jobberone;3350511 said:
Did you guys see Mays at the combine. He won't be able to cover in this league. Period. There's no coaching that up. He's too stiff and awkward.

If this is true, and I'm not aruging that its not, why will Mays get drafted in the 1st round. A lot of teams have him as a 1st round grade. If this is true, why draft him at all. If all he brings to the table is ST, then he should go undrafted. A max of 5th round. Right
 
CATCH17;3350137 said:
Just what we need. 230 pounds lumbering in our secondary.


"Lumbering" faster than any DB in the Draft.


Not a huge fan of the pick but with his intangables he's projected as the next Sean Taylor.
 
SilverStarCowboy;3350530 said:
"Lumbering" faster than any DB in the Draft.


Not a huge fan of the pick but with his intangables he's projected as the next Sean Taylor.

You can't just be fast in the secondary. You have to show quicks too. You have to be able to turn on a dime and run .

And Sean Taylor was struggling on the field before he died. He wasn't ever that great of a player in the NFL and he is 10 times more instinctive than Mays is.
 
Mays is all straight line speed. He is the best example of those using 40 times as their top criteria screwing up by the numbers. His hips are so stiff they make a week old corpse look lively.
 

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