No one can tell me...Ty Law *merge*

[Hostile]

I'd take that up with Nors.

I didn't have anything to do with his false rumor-mongering.

I just saw an experienced player who I thought could help this team.

I'm a victim of circumstance I tell ya!

We have. Dozens of times. It's just Pavlov's dog. We're conditioned to hating hearing about him.

 

[Stash]

We have. Dozens of times. It's just Pavlov's dog. We're conditioned to hating hearing about him.

Oh.

I had no idea.

This must be difficult for you.

Hopefully, now that he's signed with the Jets these threads will die down a bit.

(after this one of course)

 

[cowboyjoe]

Thats my point like one guy posted, from being off of the streets, not being in training camp, i thought law did well. Now did he dominate Moss No, because he had help over the top.

Basically, the jets did to Randy Moss, what teams have been doing to T O. They jammed him at the line of scrimmage, just like shawn springs jammed T O in first cowboys Commander game, but springs had help over the top, just like in the jets game last night, with law jamming moss.

Thats what i was asking about having Law in if the contract price wasnt too big, then you could move Henry to free safety, and play Hamlin at SS.

Till maybe Jenkins or scandrick stepped up as a pure corner. Or the Cowboys got adam jones back if he is allowed back in the NFL.

Thats why I was asking, and most of the zoners said no, he is too slow, but Law is a good jammer at the line of scrimmage, and he knows routes.

Thats what Law is good at.

That was a very good post Hostile, and i didnt know that about ty law, parcells, so thanks for clearing that up for me.

 

[JPM]

I never said the guy can't play. He's a topic here only because of a bogus rumor that we tried to trade for him in 2004. There is no truth to that rumor at all.

Let me remind people that in 2004 when Steven Jackson was there for the taking that our very own Dale was right there at Valley Ranch covering the Draft. As our pick approached and we were all excited that Steven Jackson had fallen into our laps, Dale, in the chat room, reported that he heard Parcells say this...



At that point we all knew that we were not going to take Jackson but many of us thought it would therefore be Kevin Smith, the other top rated back. The trade with the Rams floored many of us.

Not to drag this discussion off topic, but you meant Kevin Jones from VT right Hos ? I had heard he's the RB Parcells really wanted out of that draft.

 

[Hostile]

Not to drag this discussion off topic, but you meant Kevin Jones from VT right Hos ? I had heard he's the RB Parcells really wanted out of that draft.

Nice catch, thank you. Fixed it. Yes, it was reported that Parcells wanted to trade back up into the 1st round to take him.

 

[Temo]

I'd take that up with Nors.

I didn't have anything to do with his false rumor-mongering.

I just saw an experienced player who I thought could help this team.

I'm a victim of circumstance I tell ya!

The reason the Jets signed him is because this is their roster of DBs:

36 Barrett, David CB ACT 5'10" 195 12/22/1977 9 Arkansas 30 Coleman, Drew CB ACT 5'9" 175 4/22/1983 3 Texas Christian 34 Lowery, Dwight CB ACT 5'11" 201 1/23/1986 0 San Jose State 24 Revis, Darrelle CB ACT 5'11" 204 7/14/1985 2 Pittsburgh 31 Carroll, Ahmad DB ACT 5'10" 190 8/4/1983 4 Arkansas 44 Ihedigbo, James DB ACT 6'1" 202 12/3/1983 2 Massachusetts
Law, Ty DB ACT 5'11" 200 2/10/1974 14 Michigan 23 Poteat, Hank DB ACT 5'10" 195 8/30/1977 8 Pittsburgh

Even with Ty Law, the Jets gave up 400 yards to MATT CASSEL. The most pass yards the Cowboys have given up this year is 259, to the Eagles. When the Cowboys faces the Tom Brady Pats last year, they gave up 373 yards passing. The closest I can get to 400 yards passing given up by the Cowboys is 398 in 2005 against the seahawks (43-39 win).

The last time the Cowboys gave up that many passing yards was in 1998, 448 passing yards in a 35-28 win against the cardinals.

 

[Cowboys2008]

I've been for Ty Law since Parcells first year with us, or whenever it was he first became available after the Pats. Lol.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Moss was shutdown until he got that last reception, which was a great play on his part. But keep telling yourself that Law was giving up plays all night long. The stats don't lie, unless you have an anti-Law agenda.

I have to assume that you did not watch the game after reading your comments.

Why would Cassell try to throw to Moss and a double coverage gameplan when Watson was wide open for the majority of the night and Welker was allowed to run into the middle of the field with only single coverage????? Answer, he would not, instead opting for throwing for a mere 400 YARDS. Only an absolute nimrod would try to force into double coverage when there are other receivers not being covered, period.

With the Safety so concerned about Moss, it left the middle of the field wide open the entire game, hence the reason why Cassell lead the Pats in rushing yardage. Once again, why force into double coverage when the Jets are giving you almost eight free yards.

If you are claiming that Law shut Moss down, someone else could easily claim that Law was such a liability that the Jets were forced to provide help and the Defense was shredded bacause of it.

By the way, there were several times where Moss had broken containment and Cassell just could not get him the ball due to being horrible at throwing over twenty yards. He overthrew Moss once on a walk-in touchdown.

 

[Stash]

By the way, there were several times where Moss had broken containment and Cassell just could not get him the ball due to being horrible at throwing over twenty yards. He overthrew Moss once on a walk-in touchdown.

Regarding the specific play you're referencing, Ty Law was not covering Moss.

 

[cowboyjoe]

well im glad parcells couldnt trade back up to get kevin jones, julius jones is a super star compared to kevin jones, and julius jones is no super star

 

[Stash]

well im glad parcells couldnt trade back up to get kevin jones, julius jones is a super star compared to kevin jones, and julius jones is no super star

lose-lose scenario

But we've re-hashed the whole Jones/Spears vs Steven Jackson thing to death.

:bang2:

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Regarding the specific play you're referencing, Ty Law was not covering Moss.

No kidding, but the donkey keeps stating Moss's stats like it is some big thing so I wanted to point it out. If Brady was back under Center, the Pats would have hung fifty on the Jets.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

If the claim was he was shutting down Moss by himself, that certainly wasn't accurate.

He was harrassing Moss off the line and covering him with help over the top.

But in that capcaity, I thought he was doing a good job.

Especially for just getting back on the field.

Now this I agree with. He looked good for what he did but what he did is what every single, average corner, in the NFL does against a star reciever. They play with help over the top so that they don't have to worry about getting crushed deep.

That makes him better than an average guy like Henry but it hardly makes him a world beater who 'shut down Moss' by himself, as a few here were trying to claim.

I have to assume that you did not watch the game after reading your comments.

Why would Cassell try to throw to Moss and a double coverage gameplan when Watson was wide open for the majority of the night and Welker was allowed to run into the middle of the field with only single coverage????? Answer, he would not, instead opting for throwing for a mere 400 YARDS. Only an absolute nimrod would try to force into double coverage when there are other receivers not being covered, period.

With the Safety so concerned about Moss, it left the middle of the field wide open the entire game, hence the reason why Cassell lead the Pats in rushing yardage. Once again, why force into double coverage when the Jets are giving you almost eight free yards.

If you are claiming that Law shut Moss down, someone else could easily claim that Law was such a liability that the Jets were forced to provide help and the Defense was shredded bacause of it.

By the way, there were several times where Moss had broken containment and Cassell just could not get him the ball due to being horrible at throwing over twenty yards. He overthrew Moss once on a walk-in touchdown.

This, exactly, tells the story. Perfectly explained.