Norm on Wade's PC comments yesterday...

[Zimmy Lives]

I don't get why anyone would care what Norm's opinion is. Honestly, IR, I'd care to hear your opinion more than his. I typically listen to the news for facts, not opinion. That guys' just a sports fan with a bigger mouthpiece. And his opinions are just wild *** guesses.

I agree. I take it all in stride, especially since Norm stated that the best team lost on his post-game analysis on the Ticket Sunday.

 

[LucaBrasi]

This team never paid attention to detail. Alot of that was overcome by the high powered offense that routinely produced 1st downs on 3rd and longs that were the result of penalties. Once the offense dried up, the season went up in smoke. The Cowboys never did the little things, but it was swept under the rug because they kept winning.
For instance, I'd watch McBriar poom a punt to the middle of the end zone from midfield, or the false starts from the o-line(at home which should never happen), penalties like the delay of game spike which must have happened 5 or 6 times during the season(hello wade?, anybody home?) and st play were a problem all year. Well, when you get to the playoffs that stuff gets magnified and gets you beat. And that's exactly what happened to this team

 

[visionary]

Is this true? Do you know how he talks to the players individually? Or do you just know how Wade talks to the media?

theogt
i respect the opinions of many on this board and you are one of them. i have been reading your posts (and several others) since the loss. believe me, i understand that WP has only had one year and continuity is very important and we have a talented roster, now he knows this team, etc etc, so we should keep him. however part of me is afraid that next year we will have lost one more year and will be no better off. i am really conflicted about this.

out of curiosity, let me ask you a simple question:

we have history to show (0-4 in the playoffs) that wade's way does not get it done in the post-season

what do you have to show that it does?

PS: i would love it if WP proves me wrong and we win in the post-season next year.

 

[theogt]

theogt
i respect the opinions of many on this board and you are one of them. i have been reading your posts (and several others) since the loss. believe me, i understand that WP has only had one year and continuity is very important and we have a talented roster, now he knows this team, etc etc, so we should keep him. however part of me is afraid that next year we will have lost one more year and will be no better off. i am really conflicted about this.

out of curiosity, let me ask you a simple question:

we have history to show (0-4 in the playoffs) that wade's way does not get it done in the post-season

what do you have to show that it does?

PS: i would love it if WP proves me wrong and we win in the post-season next year.

0-4 doesn't mean squat. Wade improved this defense and improved the team overall. Sometimes the ball bounces your way and sometimes it doesn't. There are 31 head coaches every year that don't win the Super Bowl. So each coach has a history of not winning. Does that mean that each coach can't win?

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Bradie James complained about the local media “We got a lot of local guys against us the last few weeks, and that hurt us.”

This is a very interesting comment by Bradie James.

I have to go back to a question a fan asked one of the talking heads at ESPN in one those ESPN chats.

A fan asked an ESPN Analyst why there were so many pundits picking against the Cowboys and the ESPN Analyst stated, "Once we get closer to the Playoff Game, I expect more people to pick the Cowboys".

Now I don't know what the trend was as a whole, but I know on the Fox Pre Game Show, all 4 talking heads did say they had some doubts about the Dallas Cowboys but when asked who they thought would win, all four of them did pick the Dallas Cowboys.

Also, Bradie James and whoever "US" is needs to stop having Antena Ears and cease listening to the fans and the media.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

I don't get why anyone would care what Norm's opinion is. Honestly, IR, I'd care to hear your opinion more than his. I typically listen to the news for facts, not opinion. That guys' just a sports fan with a bigger mouthpiece. And his opinions are just wild *** guesses.

Really? :laugh2:
I didnt think the news did that anymore

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I totally know what he's talking about with the local media. All I heard was about Wade getting fired if we lost, how this team would be just like the Mavs if we lost, this team not winning a playoff game in a decade, would Romo's vacation affect them, etc.

Sure, people might have picked us to win in the little box where everyone says who they think will win, but there was a lot of talk about losing, too.

Now that said, you can't be affected by all that talk, either. No doubt about that. But the negativity was out there.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

0-4 doesn't mean squat. Wade improved this defense and improved the team overall. Sometimes the ball bounces your way and sometimes it doesn't. There are 31 head coaches every year that don't win the Super Bowl. So each coach has a history of not winning. Does that mean that each coach can't win?

Once again, I agree!

Tom Landry was once in the same situation back in the late 60s. EVERYONE was calling for his head saying he was not the man to get them over the hump -- they were next year's champions.

Well, in response to the media and fans Tex Schramm and Clint Murchison proceeded to give him a contract extension and a raise. Imagine what would have happened if he was fired instead!

My point is, it was only Wade's first year!

 

[Boysboy]

I still have my homer glasses on, but Wade SHOULD have manned up and gave the Giants their credit where it's due. This is just SO unlike him.

Nonetheless, I don't know about you guys, but Wade, Tony, Crayton, TO, and yes, even Roy et al have my UPmost support b/c I'm a die-hard Dallas Cowboys fan 'till death, and continue to watch and root for them.

 

[visionary]

0-4 doesn't mean squat. Wade improved this defense and improved the team overall. Sometimes the ball bounces your way and sometimes it doesn't. There are 31 head coaches every year that don't win the Super Bowl. So each coach has a history of not winning. Does that mean that each coach can't win?

i see your point but we are not talking superbowl, we are talking any playoff games over as many seasons as he has been a head coach, not the same thing at all

it dosent mean he CANT win
it does mean that chances are he WONT

if a coach has a long record of not getting it done and then wins one, is it that he is suddenly a better coach or that sooner or later the ball was going to bounce his way? i would argue the latter.

in gambling house always wins because the deck is stacked in their favor ever so slightly, with WP as our coach, is the deck stacked in our favor or against us? i wonder

i guess his PC with the constant harping on 13-3 and 'the better team didnt win' really rubbed me the wrong way. we can only hope that WP is different with the players than he appears in public holding players accountable etc.

the problem is that for all of BPs faults one thing he said always rang true: "you are what your record says you are"

that is 0-4 for WP in the playoffs
that is 0-5 for our beloved cowboys in the playoffs (going by Hos's post)

some of what i am saying is frustration because i thought WP was the right choice and really hoped this was the year we could break the pattern.

as i said before, i hope he proves me wrong next season

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Once again, I agree!

Tom Landry was once in the same situation back in the late 60s.

When was Tom Landry ever 0-4 in the Playoffs?

I am serious, me and a Co-worker was just chatting about an hour ago, discussing if there has ever been a coach besides Wade Phillips that was 0-4 or greater in the Playoffs.

 

[LucaBrasi]

When was Tom Landry ever 0-4 in the Playoffs?

I am serious, me and a Co-worker was just chatting about an hour ago, discussing if there has ever been a coach besides Wade Phillips that was 0-4 or greater in the Playoffs.

Jim Mora Sr. was 0-6 I think in the playoffs. Playoffs? Playoffs?

 

[Zimmy Lives]

When was Tom Landry ever 0-4 in the Playoffs?

I am serious, me and a Co-worker was just chatting about an hour ago, discussing if there has ever been a coach besides Wade Phillips that was 0-4 or greater in the Playoffs.

He couldn't win a pig scramble even though he had a very good team beginning in 66.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Jim Mora Sr. was 0-6 I think in the playoffs. Playoffs? Playoffs?

Was he really Hahaha.

I love that PC.

 

[Givincer]

Wade bothered me when he said “The best team didn’t win”. It is what it is. You know, the Cowboys had no business of winning the Detroit game and wouldn’t have if Paris Lennon had just fell on a fumble instead of kicking it right to one of our players. But at the time Wade told us “A win is a win”. So don’t come out now and say the best team didn’t win. If you want to play that game, then this wasn’t really a 13-3 team because we should have lost the Detroit and Buffalo game.

This is laughable. What Wade meant, clearly, by "the better team didn't win" is that we outplayed them (36 minutes to 23 minutes, 300 yards to 200 yards), but didn't win the game. Not only that, but we've outplayed them on two other occasions and won by 10 and 11 points which still wasn't enough for how much we outplayed them. Key penalties are what killed us in this game. I've gotten to the point where I realize we clearly should've won that game and that we're flat out better than them, and were Sunday, and I'm now content with our season.

Wade can say all the positive things he wants, but this team didn’t make a step it was supposed to this year. When push came to shove this year’s team did what last year’s team did …. They backed out of a playoff win and did whatever it could to find a way to lose. They weren’t playing well the last month this year, and there was a sentiment around the team that it wasn’t a big deal and they would turn it on when the playoffs came around. Teams with no history of winning in the playoffs should never suggest that they know how to turn it on when the playoffs come. That really bothered me.

Eh, they turned it on well enough to win, they just didn't. I'm convinced if the game were officiated just a tad differently (or even if Crayton did his job on a few plays), we'd be in the conference championship game. That's enough for me, quite honestly.

And I also agree with Wade when he says the arrow is pointing up on this team. We're only going to get better. Now, will we be 13-3 next year? I don't know, but I'd be shocked if we weren't somewhere between 11-5 - 15-1.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

It is weird how this team goes down hill in Dec.....wow

 

[Skinsmaniac]

I think about comments like that in terms of what players think when they hear them. Do they make the players feel like Wade is weak and make them lose confidence in them, or do they feel like he is sticking up for them? Wade is walking a thin line here, but if I was a player, I don't think I'd like hearing that from my coach.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I think about comments like that in terms of what players think when they hear them. Do they make the players feel like Wade is weak and make them lose confidence in them, or do they feel like he is sticking up for them? Wade is walking a thin line here, but if I was a player, I don't think I'd like hearing that from my coach.

Well, you ain't a player.

 

[sonnyboy]

You guys, just like the media, are looking to hard at this "mysterious" late season slide.

Lack of disipline, lack of focus, BS!

Here's what happened and here's where we are.

First off, this was a very good team. But not great. We had a few off games sprinkled throughout the season that left questions. 1st NYG, Bills, Min, Pats, 1st Wash, Det.
Games where we were weak on one side of the ball.

And between those games were some great efforts like the Miami, Chicago, Rams, 2nd NYG, 1st Phila, GB, NYJ.

There was no mysterious late season slide. We had key players hurt for the last three games. Romo, Owens, Geroude, Newman and others.

 

[Bach]

There was no mysterious late season slide. We had key players hurt for the last three games. Romo, Owens, Geroude, Newman and others.

So is this the same excuse every year?