Nors Top 120 - 1st pass

[Hostile]

I said he will not be drafted top 5 and he will not. I'll be dropping him some but for now he is what he is. THREE months to go hombre.

91 days, 15 hours, 8 mins to be exact.

:wink2:

 

[Nors]

91 days, 15 hours, 8 mins to be exact.

:wink2:

can't happen fast enough. better than Christmas day.....

 

[Nors]

If you want to see something humorous, search the draft zone archives for some of Nors' previous thoughts on Kiwi, especially last year when it looked like he was coming out.


Did he grow into that 3-4 DE like you thought???

Please post the actual links. Don't make it up post it SS. You won't be able to..... I've said all along Kiwi was not strong enough to come out last draft and said all along he was too small to be a 3-4 DE. His only potential in NFL is as a 4-3 DE. Probably situational pass rusher which is a role he could grow into over time.

http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39167&highlight=kiwi

http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16992&highlight=kiwi

Nors in thread on 1-6-2005 said!

"Kiwi is a 4-3 DE prospect. Won't fit in 3-4. Pollack is a 4-3, 3-4 fit. Hybrid. Will be telling to see how we draft D this year...........and FA."

Read my actual posts buddy in the thread - Its pretty clear where I stood/stand on Kiwi.....


Stop making it up as you go - lets talk football? eh?

 

[StanleySpadowski]

Please post the actual links. Don't make it up post it SS. You won't be able to..... I've said all along Kiwi was not strong enough to come out last draft and said all along he was too small to be a 3-4 DE. His only potential in NFL is as a 4-3 DE. Probably situational pass rusher which is a role he could grow into over time.

http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39167&highlight=kiwi

http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16992&highlight=kiwi

Nors in thread on 1-6-2005 said!

"Kiwi is a 4-3 DE prospect. Won't fit in 3-4. Pollack is a 4-3, 3-4 fit. Hybrid. Will be telling to see how we draft D this year...........and FA."

Read my actual posts buddy in the thread - Its pretty clear where I stood/stand on Kiwi.....


Stop making it up as you go - lets talk football? eh?

Guess who said "The BC DE at 6-8 can be a 3-4 DE".

Three guesses and the first two don't count.

You wanna talk making things up as you go or do you want to admit that you talk out of both sides of you mouth.

I don't expect an answer but then again I'm still waiting for William Green to become a "HOF player".

 

[Nors]

Guess who said "The BC DE at 6-8 can be a 3-4 DE".

Three guesses and the first two don't count.

You wanna talk making things up as you go or do you want to admit that you talk out of both sides of you mouth.

I don't expect an answer but then again I'm still waiting for William Green to become a "HOF player".

I brought the factual posts and links. He's only 6-5 and I've NEVER advocated Kiwi as a 3-4 DE. As predicted you bring nothing factual to table. Just making it up....

Green has some issues - same player as Larry Johnson who i WAS LONG ON TOO: - right place right time. KC or Cleveland ????? - LOL NOBODY could run behind those dreadfull Brown lines OF YEARS PAST.

You have to attempt off topic crap cuz you slung BS and I called you on it.

 

[junk]

You have to attempt off topic crap cuz you slung BS and I called you on it.

Pot meet kettle.

 

[Clove]

Let's stay focused guys......

 

[Nors]

Let's stay focused guys......

SS made a baseless accusation. I referenced and called him out. He has no retort. Its over.


I'll be updating top 120 for Senior Bowl week.

 

[Nors]

I can't believe Gilles is that high after his performance. I used to like him, but now I'm on the fence.

I stand by my high evaluation on Gilles!!!!!!!

 

[StanleySpadowski]

I brought the factual posts and links. He's only 6-5 and I've NEVER advocated Kiwi as a 3-4 DE. As predicted you bring nothing factual to table. Just making it up....

Green has some issues - same player as Larry Johnson who i WAS LONG ON TOO: - right place right time. KC or Cleveland ????? - LOL NOBODY could run behind those dreadfull Brown lines OF YEARS PAST.

You have to attempt off topic crap cuz you slung BS and I called you on it.

dallascowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12786&highlight=kiwi



Yep, you never said it and I have no facts.

Care to **** now or do you enjoy being made the fool?

 

[Nors]

dallascowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12786&highlight=kiwi



Yep, you never said it and I have no facts.

Care to **** now or do you enjoy being made the fool?

Originally Posted by Nors
Please post the actual links. Don't make it up post it SS. You won't be able to..... I've said all along Kiwi was not strong enough to come out last draft and said all along he was too small to be a 3-4 DE. His only potential in NFL is as a 4-3 DE. Probably situational pass rusher which is a role he could grow into over time.

http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/...highlight=kiwi

http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/...highlight=kiwi

Nors in thread on 1-6-2005 said!

"Kiwi is a 4-3 DE prospect. Won't fit in 3-4. Pollack is a 4-3, 3-4 fit. Hybrid. Will be telling to see how we draft D this year...........and FA."

Read my actual posts buddy in the thread - Its pretty clear where I stood/stand on Kiwi.....


At that time KIWI was a 6-8 270+ DE, after then I did my research and called him out. Undersized and not NFL strong. I called him on not declaring last year and have done nothing but call him a 4-3 DE since.



Language filters? Personal attacks. Add me to your self professed "100's of posters" you have on ignore. You are lucky you are not banned carrying on like that.


Have a great day.

 

[junk]

dallascowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12786&highlight=kiwi



Yep, you never said it and I have no facts.

Care to **** now or do you enjoy being made the fool?

Owned.

Kiwi and Derrick Johnson in the 3-4?

Rush2112 certainly had his stuff together.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

Originally Posted by Nors
Please post the actual links. Don't make it up post it SS. You won't be able to..... I've said all along Kiwi was not strong enough to come out last draft and said all along he was too small to be a 3-4 DE. His only potential in NFL is as a 4-3 DE. Probably situational pass rusher which is a role he could grow into over time.

http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/...highlight=kiwi

http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/...highlight=kiwi

Nors in thread on 1-6-2005 said!

"Kiwi is a 4-3 DE prospect. Won't fit in 3-4. Pollack is a 4-3, 3-4 fit. Hybrid. Will be telling to see how we draft D this year...........and FA."

Read my actual posts buddy in the thread - Its pretty clear where I stood/stand on Kiwi.....


At that time KIWI was a 6-8 270+ DE, after then I did my research and called him out. Undersized and not NFL strong. I called him on not declaring last year and have done nothing but call him a 4-3 DE since.



Language filters? Personal attacks. Add me to your self professed "100's of posters" you have on ignore. You are lucky you are not banned carrying on like that.


Have a great day.

So you're basically claiming that you based your initial opinion on some numbers you saw somewhere without ever seeing him play? Is that it? Sounds like how most of your uninformed opinions are formed.


I said that you said something, you claimed that you didn't and made a big deal about me not knowing what I was talking about and demanded proof. I gave you a link and now your mangina hurts and you want me banned.:laugh2:

 

[J-DOG]

Nor..er...Nors...great info man.
Lot of work involved but you always have done your homework.
Not gonna snipe at your list.
A few observations of some comments in this thread after yesterday's game.
Cutler may be overrated, and hence Nors listing of him looks more right than wrong.
Ferguson was the most impressive player from this last week of practice.
Not suprising to see Nors has him at the top.
Gilles the guard from Georgia is a road grader. His size worrries me though. Will he have weight problems?

 

[Nors]

Nor..er...Nors...great info man.
Lot of work involved but you always have done your homework.
Not gonna snipe at your list.
A few observations of some comments in this thread after yesterday's game.
Cutler may be overrated, and hence Nors listing of him looks more right than wrong.
Ferguson was the most impressive player from this last week of practice.
Not suprising to see Nors has him at the top.
Gilles the guard from Georgia is a road grader. His size worrries me though. Will he have weight problems?

JD - Gilles appears to be first Guard off board. At 358 there will always be weight questions.


Looking for feedback on Top 50, Who am I overlooking? Its early in the process.

 

[Nors]

SS

Links posted on Kiwi - once strength and size outed I've been saying all along the guy is a 4-3 DE only. Guy that small and lacking NFL strength killed all 3-4 talk a year and 3 months ago+


Personal attacks and your obvious attempt to circumvent language filter are on you. I don't ban anyone.
Back to draft talk......

 

[mschmidt64]

I said he will not be drafted top 5 and he will not. I'll be dropping him some but for now he is what he is. THREE months to go hombre.

I see.

So between now and the draft, a time in which there are no games to be played at all, Hawk is going to change his rating?

How exactly is he going to do that?

I don't love Hawk either, but the fact that you admit to fluctuating him on a whim lends credence to the assumption that you've done this ENTIRELY on a whim.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

SS

Links posted on Kiwi - once strength and size outed I've been saying all along the guy is a 4-3 DE only. Guy that small and lacking NFL strength killed all 3-4 talk a year and 3 months ago+


Personal attacks and your obvious attempt to circumvent language filter are on you. I don't ban anyone.
Back to draft talk......

Anyone who had actually seen Kiwi play would have known that he wasn't the size listed in the program. Anyone could look at his body/size in comparision to others on the fied and realize that the numbers on the net were grossly inflated. The only people he was "outed" to are ones with room temperature IQs who base everything off of someone else's intellectual property.


Also using acronyms isn't an attempt to circumvent the lanuage filter. Putting "v" instead of a "u" in the f-word is, ***, ****, WTH aren't.

 

[Hostile]

Originally Posted by Nors
Please post the actual links. Don't make it up post it SS. You won't be able to..... I've said all along Kiwi was not strong enough to come out last draft and said all along he was too small to be a 3-4 DE. His only potential in NFL is as a 4-3 DE. Probably situational pass rusher which is a role he could grow into over time.

http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/...highlight=kiwi

http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/...highlight=kiwi

Nors in thread on 1-6-2005 said!

"Kiwi is a 4-3 DE prospect. Won't fit in 3-4. Pollack is a 4-3, 3-4 fit. Hybrid. Will be telling to see how we draft D this year...........and FA."

Read my actual posts buddy in the thread - Its pretty clear where I stood/stand on Kiwi.....


At that time KIWI was a 6-8 270+ DE, after then I did my research and called him out. Undersized and not NFL strong. I called him on not declaring last year and have done nothing but call him a 4-3 DE ever since.

Are you denying you ever said this?

I think The BC defensive End AT WHAT 6-8 CAN BE A 3-4 DE, we add the Texas LB and we are 3-4 ready.

He's not attacking you at all. He's pointing out that you opinions did a flip flop. Something you deny. Yet there's the evidence. I tell you all the time you'd actually save face by being honest. This is one of those cases. Everyone can see the evidence.

People do change their opinions on players Nors. It's pretty clear from past discussions that you hold people to their opinions. Now here you are trying to spin control your way out of this.

Really, really hypocritical Nors. Don't seek absolution that you'd neveer give anyone else for a stated opinion.

 

[Nors]

Are you denying you ever said this?



He's not attacking you at all. He's pointing out that you opinions did a flip flop. Something you deny. Yet there's the evidence. I tell you all the time you'd actually save face by being honest. This is one of those cases. Everyone can see the evidence.

People do change their opinions on players Nors. It's pretty clear from past discussions that you hold people to their opinions. Now here you are trying to spin control your way out of this.

Really, really hypocritical Nors. Don't seek absolution that you'd neveer give anyone else for a stated opinion.

What did I deny - other than the fleeting 6-8 270 hype on Kiwi I've been very consistent that he was/is not strong enough and is not a 3-4 DE.

Whatever. I guess the "****" stuff he slings flies in this thread........ Gotcha - guess thats just fine - who needs rules.

Yes - back to thread topic - Kiwi dropping fast on my board!