not bledsoe's fault!!

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if you gave the guy at least 3 freakin seconds to throw the ball maybe we could move down field. our ol sux right now. coaches are not doing thier job. i aint even a bledsoe fan but you gotta give the qb time to throw the ball. you know when our ol sux when the coach doesnt trust the center enough to run a shotgun!! you know you suck when the defense helps the qb hand the ball off to the rb!!hey al, andre you are in the nfl, if you cant snap from a shotgun you know you are not gona be on this team next year.
 

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I'm with ya man. I'm officially on the Defend Bledsoe Bandwagon.
 

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I think people are really fooling themselves if they dont think Bledsoe can get it done with a little more protection.

With the offensive line in disarray, Bledsoe's weaknesses are exposed. He still hasnt thrown alot of interceptions and fumbled alot.

- Mike G.
 

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Bledsoe has to take some of the blame. He's not making throws he should, even with time
 

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come on now are we watching some of the game. Drew fumbled twice. Ok the second one wasnt his fault. But the first he held onto the ball way too long. Plus their were opportunities to step up in the pocket. Drew will never take the boys to the playoffs...never
 

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Gaede said:
Bledsoe has to take some of the blame. He's not making throws he should, even with time

Example would be the one that he tried to pull back in the 3rd qtr to Keyshawn. He had plenty of room and time on that play, but read the safety too late and tried to pull it back, but the ball came out. If he reads the safety earlier a pump fake burns him and it very well could have been a huge play.

Just one example, their were many others, he played like a rookie with happy feet when he DID have time to throw!
 

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There are two fundemental problems:

1. Drew not getting enough time.
2. Not enough receivers going out.
 

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mickgreen58 said:
I think people are really fooling themselves if they dont think Bledsoe can get it done with a little more protection.

With the offensive line in disarray, Bledsoe's weaknesses are exposed. He still hasnt thrown alot of interceptions and fumbled alot.

- Mike G.

Mike G. I don't have his fumbles but he has thrown 11 INTs in 12 games that is almost one a game..umm what do you consider alot?

okay counted through the game day stats Bledsoe has 14 fumbles in 12 games again Mike G. what is a lot...that is 25 turn overs on Bledsoe alone
 

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This fits here just as well as it fit in the other thread defending Bledsoe...

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Did anyone happen to see that 3rd and one play in the 4th quarter that was so crucial?
If I recall correctly we had what looked to be a TE, (maybe Campbell or Pierce), about 5 yards downfield that was open, but Bledsoe chose to throw the ball 20-25 yards downfield into double coverage with a pass that had about a 5% probablity of being completed.

To excuse Bledsoe, the QB, from any blame in this offensive mess is incomprehensible!

Does Bledsoe need time in the pocket? Yes.
Was Bledsoe exclusively to blame Sunday? No.
Does the OL bear a large portion of the blame for the mess? Absolutely!

But there is this little factor that goes into playing QB that Bledsoe has always struggled with and it's what seperates the good ones from the great ones. Its a little thing called "decision-making".

Bledsoe has struggled with that aspect of his play his entire career and he will continue to struggle with it until the day he retires. His tremendous physical skill in being able to throw the ball makes up for this weakness some of the time and is what has allowed him to throw for over 40,000 yards in his career.

Bledsoe is by no means a "bum". He is a gifted throwing QB who can be effective. But he is getting older. His legs aren't what they were when he was a young QB. His pocket presence is very inconsistent and he will always cause you to pull your hair out with his propensity to make a couple of bone-head decisions over the course of every game or so.

All of that is so obvious about Bledsoe that it amazes me why anyone would want to exonerate him of any blame in the decline of our offense the past month or so.
 

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mickgreen58 said:
I think people are really fooling themselves if they dont think Bledsoe can get it done with a little more protection.

With the offensive line in disarray, Bledsoe's weaknesses are exposed. He still hasnt thrown alot of interceptions and fumbled alot.

- Mike G.

5 ints in the last 4 games, 8 in the last 7.

3 fumbles in the last 4 games, 9 in the last 7 games.

17 potential turnovers in 7 games. That is a LOT.

And only 7 TDs in those 7 games. :banghead:
 

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CaptainAmerica said:
This fits here just as well as it fit in the other thread defending Bledsoe...

You are absolutely correct with Bledsoe regardless of where he played its ALWAYS the O-line...
 

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Mike G. I don't have his fumbles but he has thrown 11 INTs in 12 games that is almost one a game..umm what do you consider alot?

Let's see here

Fact:He still has thrown 17 Touchdowns which 17-11 TD/INT ratio is not all that bad. Not great but not horrible.

Fact:Jake Delhome, Kyle Orton, Eli Manning, Tom Brady, Michael Vick, Trent Green have all thrown 9 or more interceptions and 3 of these QBs have thrown as many as Bledsoe and most likley (maybe with the exception of ATL) all will be playing in the post season.

Let's give the guy some more time, come up with more innovative offensive playcalling and like one poster said in a thread "Let Drew sling it".

Remember, I was the biggest Drew Bledsoe hater on the block...well maybe not as big as Mike Winiki hahaha (JK) but the guy has won me over.

- Mike G.
 

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TheHustler said:
5 ints in the last 4 games, 8 in the last 7.

3 fumbles in the last 4 games, 9 in the last 7 games.

17 potential turnovers in 7 games. That is a LOT.

And only 7 TDs in those 7 games. :banghead:

Please see my latest post.

Im looking at the big picture here.

Funny, how Bledsoe started to diminish when the offensive line play started to sink. And trust me, torwards the beginning of the Season the offensive line was playing better, hell Petitti even earned a spotlight in Madden's cam on monday night.

I will say this one time. Drew Bledsoe is probably not the end all answer, all I want to know is what is everyone's solution?

- Mike G.
 

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TheHustler said:
5 ints in the last 4 games, 8 in the last 7.

3 fumbles in the last 4 games, 9 in the last 7 games.

17 potential turnovers in 7 games. That is a LOT.

And only 7 TDs in those 7 games. :banghead:


WOW!! Stats can certainly be misleading at times, but that's Vinny Testeverde territory right there!

But of course last year it was all Vinny's fault. This year it's all the OL's fault.

Go figure. :confused:
 

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mickgreen58 said:
I think people are really fooling themselves if they dont think Bledsoe can get it done with a little more protection.

With the offensive line in disarray, Bledsoe's weaknesses are exposed. He still hasnt thrown alot of interceptions and fumbled alot.

- Mike G.

Actually at 13 fumbles currently (and yes those take into account the fumbled snaps) and 4 games to go, Bledsoe is on pace to break his most fumbles in a season record of 15.
 

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Kilyin said:
Actually at 13 fumbles currently (and yes those take into account the fumbled snaps) and 4 games to go, Bledsoe is on pace to break his most fumbles in a season record of 15.

Not concerned with paces and estimations.

I take it game by game.
 

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As I had said before Bledsoe had even come to Dallas, he's not the QB to win the Super Bowl with.

I think everyone (with the exception of bigneil and the other one trick ponies) can agree that Bledsoe requires more protection than the "average" QB to be successful.

When he is protected, the success is mind-boggling, but herein lies the problem. If Joe Twelve-pack on a message board understands this, I'm sure those whose job is defending against Bledsoe understand it as well.

As more and more tape of Bledsoe's protection schemes and tendencies for a given season becomes available, DC can better plan to get in his face. That, coupled with his problems with inclement weather, is why he seemingly has "second half collapses" every year. He's still the same QB in December as he was in September, but there are only so many different ways to protect him and once those are deplenished, his viabilty as a winner becomes an isssue.
 

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mickgreen58 said:
Let's see here

Fact:He still has thrown 17 Touchdowns which 17-11 TD/INT ratio is not all that bad. Not great but not horrible.

Fact:Jake Delhome, Kyle Orton, Eli Manning, Tom Brady, Michael Vick, Trent Green have all thrown 9 or more interceptions and 3 of these QBs have thrown as many as Bledsoe and most likley (maybe with the exception of ATL) all will be playing in the post season.

Let's give the guy some more time, come up with more innovative offensive playcalling and like one poster said in a thread "Let Drew sling it".

Remember, I was the biggest Drew Bledsoe hater on the block...well maybe not as big as Mike Winiki hahaha (JK) but the guy has won me over.

- Mike G.

I remember Mike... but Orten and Manning are young so those are understandable... Green had that one awful game at Buffalo which was (off the top of the head a 3 int game) and he has had 7 games this year in which he did not get a pick...NE has all kinds of problems this year that Brady is keeping in it is more a testiment to how well he really is doing...
and so on...

but with Bledsoe its ALWAYS the o-line and while I know that it is always partially true at some point you have to say ..Gee maybe Bledsoe makes a o-line worse than it is...for an example if you have a Grade C line Bledsoe makes it a Grade D/F line...He also has a recent trend (last 3 years) of fading during the final stretch of the season...

We will see I will gladly eat Bledsoe crow...but if I had to bet I would bet I will be doing the serving and not the eating:eek:
 

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Nyks3 said:
come on now are we watching some of the game. Drew fumbled twice. Ok the second one wasnt his fault. But the first he held onto the ball way too long. Plus their were opportunities to step up in the pocket. Drew will never take the boys to the playoffs...never

Please have the balls to come back in January and bring this quote with you.
 

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Listen guys, I am not trying to absolve Bledsoe of any blame.

I defended Quincy Carter

I defended Drew Bledsoe

Mainly because both guys quarterbacked teams that either made the playoffs or have a chance too.

The guy was on pace to have one of his best seasons in his career. I dont think he has all of the sudden fogorten how to play the game of football.

He is in a slump like everyone else, but I think some minor adjustments on offense could change his and the Offensive Line's fortunes.
 
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