Not Expecting Big Name Signings in FA

[blindzebra]

Fujita took time to work into the lineup because he was acquired a week before the season began. He did not have entire camp in our system.



You could take a little of this advice yourself.

Show me I said he didn't?

I said he sucked, and IMO, he did.

I said he did not start until Singleton went down, and he didn't.

I said we need an upgrade at that spot, and IMO, we do.

I have some advice for you too.:moon:

 

[neosapien23]

First mini-camp Parcells said, "I'd like more size at SOLB, both Singleton and Burnett are smaller than I'd like."

The plan was to platoon them, then Burnett got hurt and lost ground.

Thornton then went down and Parcells was stuck with having a rookie trying to learn two spots, or being forced to plug Ogbogu in, so we brought in a bigger LB to platoon with Singleton...that would be Fujita.

Fujita got very little playing time until Singleton went down.

You might want to actually know what the facts are before you post.:wink2:

Look I agree what we need an upgrade over Fujita at OLB, but I don't think Burnett is it. Fujita was acquired to late into the season to have the sytem down. He played much better in his last 3-4 games. Burnett could not beat out a guy that was acquired 1 week before the season began period. If you think a guy who just tore his ACL will be ready to play at full strenth next season than you should do some research.

I think Fujita will move to ILB and continue to keep Burnett on the pine.

 

[neosapien23]

Bradie James?

Point is some guys just take a little longer to get it. Burnett was just starting to see the field more when he got hurt.

I'd rather get a guy out there playing mediocre who is improving and could break out then a guy out there playing mediocre who in all probability will never be much better than mediocre.

Well thats a good point, but remember Fujita was acquired late in the season. I think he is more than an above average linebacker, he just needed the training camp reps. I wouldn't mind moving him to ILB and bringing in Adoyele to man the strong side.

 

[Alexander]

Show me I said he didn't?

I said he sucked, and IMO, he did.

No, you said he sucked and used the fact he did not start as basis for your opinion.

And the "fact" here is that he wasn't able to compete because he was a late acquisition. If you want to start hammering people about "facts", then have your ducks in a row. Otherwise you look like an idiot.

I said he did not start until Singleton went down, and he didn't.

I said we need an upgrade at that spot, and IMO, we do.

That's perfectly fine. I think we look for another option as well. But not because Fujita "sucks". If it weren't for him and his suck self, we would have had a tougher time defeating Kansas City. He is a good backup/depth player. I don't think anyone is prepared to state he is the best thing since sliced bread. But you imply he has no use whatsoever and that is wrong.

 

[blindzebra]

No, you said he sucked and used the fact he did not start as basis for your opinion.

And the "fact" here is that he wasn't able to compete because he was a late acquisition. If you want to start hammering people about "facts", then have your ducks in a row. Otherwise you look like an idiot.



That's perfectly fine. I think we look for another option as well. But not because Fujita "sucks". If it weren't for him and his suck self, we would have had a tougher time defeating Kansas City. He is a good backup/depth player. I don't think anyone is prepared to state he is the best thing since sliced bread. But you imply he has no use whatsoever and that is wrong.

Show me where I said his sucking kept him from starting? I said his sucking was reason to UPGRADE that spot with a NEW starter.

Again you are assuming something that was never said, and you know what happens when you assume.

 

[Chuck 54]

:bang2: Dang thread killers

 

[big dog cowboy]

We better get a kicker in FA, even if it costs us a little too much. I agree with everything else already mentioned but I noticed everyone leaving out the kicker scenario. We definitely need a veteran and not an unknown.

Guaranteed last year we had 3 more W's with a good one.

 

[THUMPER]

Guaranteed last year we had 3 more W's with a good one.

I figured a guaranteed 2 more wins with a 3rd one likely. The FG we missed against the Seahawks would have tied the game while the missed ones against the Commanders and Broncos would have won them.

Still that would have put us at 11-5 and a sure playoff spot. It also would have likely eliminated the Commanders from the playoffs as an extra bonus.

 

[Murph80]

I hope we don't get foolish and go the Super Bowl or bust route.

I think we will go this route with a little empasis on youth. Bill is one more year and done regardless of the 2 year contract. It's do or die for Bill. Jerry is ready to do his part with the checkbook.

 

[neosapien23]

I think we will go this route with a little empasis on youth. Bill is one more year and done regardless of the 2 year contract. It's do or die for Bill. Jerry is ready to do his part with the checkbook.

Exactly right. Bledsoe only has two years left, Keyshawn may only have one. We need to win now or go ahead and bite the bullet and get a quarterback and reicever for the future.

 

[Cbz40]

As many have said in FA.....1st priority kicker and OT then maybe a LB or S or both.

 

[vicjagger]

I'm not sure of the numbers but I think the Cowboys will only have about ½ the available cap space that they did in '05, even w/ the projected increase to 95M, so....

 

[silver]

I completely disagree.

Thornton is a complete unknown coming off an injury.

Burnett has more potential than Thornton, but is still a question mark and is likely headed inside.

Singleton ain't coming back.

Fujita is a depth player, if we re-sign him.

If we are a 3-4 team you MUST HAVE PLAYMAKERS AT LB, getting by won't cut it. As we stand right now we have one playmaker in Ware.

We need a new starter inside that can handle the mental part of the defense to free up James and we need a playmaker to go opposite Ware, and that guy is not on the roster.

I don't think Thorton is an unkown. He was having a good camp before his knee started bothering him. He'll be in the system for 2 years so he knows the D. And he adds the pass rush dimension that others like Fujita or Singleton lack. Also BP seems to like Singlenton. He said something to that effect when he went to IR.

Having said that, if a better option is available at FA/Draft then I'm all for it. It just seems to me the the offense is where we need to concentrate this time around. other than Free Safety, I would hate for BP to mess with the defense like he did in 2004 and mess up a good thing by thinkering too much with it.

 

[blindzebra]

I don't think Thorton is an unkown. He was having a good camp before his knee started bothering him. He'll be in the system for 2 years so he knows the D. And he adds the pass rush dimension that others like Fujita or Singleton lack. Also BP seems to like Singlenton. He said something to that effect when he went to IR.

Having said that, if a better option is available at FA/Draft then I'm all for it. It just seems to me the the offense is where we need to concentrate this time around. other than Free Safety, I would hate for BP to mess with the defense like he did in 2004 and mess up a good thing by thinkering too much with it.

We are an upgrade at two LB spots from having a very good defense.

Thornton isn't the answer.

Shanle isn't.

Fowler isn't.

Singleton isn't.

Fujita isn't.

As late as his injury happened, I'm not counting on Burnett being an answer this season either.

It's really simple.

Add a RT, LB, FS and K in FA.

Draft OLB, LT to groom, and then a WR or NT day one.

Day two look for a guard/center, DE/OLB, DT/DE.

Do that and we have an improved OL, and a potentially dominate defense.

 

[silver]

We might need two LB spots but i agree with Thumper, i doubt it will happen. In fact I believe we'll stay status quo at ILB. OLB is another story. i agree with you the only playmaker we got is ware. but it took us 10 years to replace haley with ware. i hope we get one to be his bookend. i just don't see it as top priority in BP's head. i may be wrong. he likes to stockpile LB's so you may get your wish after all. ok. i'm out. see you guys tomorrow.

 

[TwoSteppinJJ]

IM not sure what you consider a big name signing but I gurantee you that bill will find some player to pay big bucks in Free agency and chances are is that he will be good. If we could land another signing similar to the henry signing without the injurys late in the season that would be MAGNIFICENT!

 

[wileedog]

We are an upgrade at two LB spots from having a very good defense.

Thornton isn't the answer.

Shanle isn't.

Fowler isn't.

Singleton isn't.

Fujita isn't.

The over-riding point is that in a 3-4 defense you can't have JAGs as LBs. You simply just cannot.

Everyone we have on the roster right now outside of Ware and perhaps James is Just A Guy. Maybe Thornton is an OK pass-rusher and Fujita is decent. Fowler is ok against the run and Shanle is slightly better than average in pass coverage. Burnett has the ability but he hasn't proven yet he can do it in the pros.

And none of that will fly in this defense if its going to get to the next level. You need flat out superior athletes at LB to make the 3-4 work. None of these guys (Burnett pending) qualifies.