Not Quite Official 'Commanders Suck Thread'

[jcblanco22]

It is a delight that nothing that is said on ES (or here for that matter) makes an iota of difference in the outcome of the game. While Art may be the master of spin, he has still had to eat his heart out after all but one Dallas-Washington game for the last, what, seven(?) seasons.

And it took the ultimate lame duck game for that victory to transpire. Remember, Campo was coaching the final game of his Cowboys HC career and the final game of a 5-11 season; Parcells and Jones had met on the tarmac at the airport in Jersey the day before and Campo and the players knew it too. Nice conditions to get that one win in, and even then, Bryant almost singlehandedly brought them back in that one.

 

[jcblanco22]

Interesting. You pick and choose a few select posts from a thread titled "Dallas is gonna spank us!" to celebrate the notion that we are a bunch of homers?

Gimme a break.

Henry, let's be honest for a second. I admire you because you've always come on here and been classy about stuff, and I think reasonable as well. But let's be frank here, you don't see the slightest bit of spin doctoring from some of your colleagues on ES, most of all Art? One thing in particular I find funny about his analysis of the victory over the Chargers yesterday is how he keeps referring to "questionable calls in Dallas's favor". I don't understand, you mean Castillo didn't really hit Bledsoe in the head, McCardell really didn't grab a handful of Newman's jersey, etc. etc.? Was I just seeing things?

Also, funny how he keeps emphasizing that the Commanders beat themselves and if not for that, the "total domination" would have been even more reflected in the final score. OK. In that case, I'll have to say that if not for Bledsoe and Johnson mishandling the snap on the first drive, as well as Keith Davis mentally blowing two assignments, we have a 21 point turnaround in our favor and win going away, 35-10. After all, the fumbled snap was an "unforced turnover", one of his favorite phrases, and the other 2 mental errors did not involve McCardell physically beating anyone one-on-one. They were just mistakes where we "shot ourselves in the foot" (another one of his favorite phrases).

Of course, it would be preposterous for me to actually believe what I just said, but I'm just trying to illustrate a point here.

 

[mrecktid]

So, let me get this straight...

Washington squeaked out a blistering 9-7 victory over the Bears where the game wasn't decided until a late 4th quarter fumble and it's dominating?

I invite Art to read the game thread on ES for that game and then somehow try and tell me that they dominated it.

I'm dizzy...

As much as I want to celebrate how our victory was a bigger victory than the Skins over the bears, we barely squeaked out a victory too. San Diego had 4 chances to put it in the end zone from 7 yards out, luckily for us, Gates was out and we finished strong. I feel both our offenses were strong, but our defenses broke more instead of bending like they should. We didn't dominate the Chargers, and the by the looks of the score, the Commanders didn't dominate the Bears either.

 

[Hoods]

Henry, let's be honest for a second. I admire you because you've always come on here and been classy about stuff, and I think reasonable as well. But let's be frank here, you don't see the slightest bit of spin doctoring from some of your colleagues on ES, most of all Art? One thing in particular I find funny about his analysis of the victory over the Chargers yesterday is how he keeps referring to "questionable calls in Dallas's favor". I don't understand, you mean Castillo didn't really hit Bledsoe in the head, McCardell really didn't grab a handful of Newman's jersey, etc. etc.? Was I just seeing things?

Also, funny how he keeps emphasizing that the Commanders beat themselves and if not for that, the "total domination" would have been even more reflected in the final score. OK. In that case, I'll have to say that if not for Bledsoe and Johnson mishandling the snap on the first drive, as well as Keith Davis mentally blowing two assignments, we have a 21 point turnaround in our favor and win going away, 35-17. After all, the fumbled snap was an "unforced turnover", one of his favorite phrases, and the other 2 mental errors did not involve McCardell physically beating anyone one-on-one. They were just mistakes where we "shot ourselves in the foot" (another one of his favorite phrases).

Of course, it would be preposterous for me to actually believe what I just said, but I'm just trying to illustrate a point here.

DUDE! Forward this post to Art!

 

[SweCowboy]

Interesting. You pick and choose a few select posts from a thread titled "Dallas is gonna spank us!" to celebrate the notion that we are a bunch of homers?

Gimme a break.

Yes but the posters are hardly rookies and should know better. And there is no one other than cowboys fans who try to argue against them. If some one should write things like this here about the cowboys people would quickly correct their stupidity.

 

[jcblanco22]

DUDE! Forward this post to Art!

LOL, I actually have an account at ES and am thinking of doing that. There is something I have to correct though, our final would've been 35-10 and not 35-17 if I apply that logic, I realized that after I posted it!

 

[DallasDomination]

I'm not ready to say we're gonna pound the skins after game 1.Things can change very easy and I'll guarante the Skins will be no push overs.

They will pressure Bledsoe constantly, and will give us a hard time........However IMO we will come out with a "W" at the end of the day.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

The Commanders defense will keep them in alot of games. Remember, they went into the last game of the season needing to hold their opponent to less than 7 points or so to edge the Steelers in the number 1 defensive ranking.

When coaching legends and teams that hate each other get together, I could never assume anything...

- Mike G.

 

[Henry]

Henry, let's be honest for a second. I admire you because you've always come on here and been classy about stuff, and I think reasonable as well. But let's be frank here, you don't see the slightest bit of spin doctoring from some of your colleagues on ES, most of all Art? One thing in particular I find funny about his analysis of the victory over the Chargers yesterday is how he keeps referring to "questionable calls in Dallas's favor". I don't understand, you mean Castillo didn't really hit Bledsoe in the head, McCardell really didn't grab a handful of Newman's jersey, etc. etc.? Was I just seeing things?

Also, funny how he keeps emphasizing that the Commanders beat themselves and if not for that, the "total domination" would have been even more reflected in the final score. OK. In that case, I'll have to say that if not for Bledsoe and Johnson mishandling the snap on the first drive, as well as Keith Davis mentally blowing two assignments, we have a 21 point turnaround in our favor and win going away, 35-10. After all, the fumbled snap was an "unforced turnover", one of his favorite phrases, and the other 2 mental errors did not involve McCardell physically beating anyone one-on-one. They were just mistakes where we "shot ourselves in the foot" (another one of his favorite phrases).

Of course, it would be preposterous for me to actually believe what I just said, but I'm just trying to illustrate a point here.

I generally try to avoid speaking for Art or on behalf of Art on this forum. He's a big boy and can explain himself if he wants to.

However, since you asked I'll let you all here in on a llittle secret that appears to have eluded most of you for years now: Art likes riling up Cowboy fans. He absolutely LOVES the fact that he can post something on his own forum and posters he's never even heard of will go back to their own homepages and chatter about him. He lives for crap like that.

Just something to thnk about the next time someone starts yet another 'can you believe what Art just posted' thread over here.

 

[AbeBeta]

Wow, I thought the Skins won yesterday. Guess not. Don't take these guys too lightly -- they have an excellent RB who can dominate games and a very good D.

That said, if we play like we did yesterday and the Skins play like they did yesterday we will crush them.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Who the hell is art?

 

[LeonDixson]

Who the hell is art?

He's a supercilious, pseudointellectual mod over at ExtremeSkins. The guy can write well but his logic is severely warped when it comes to the Skins. He suffers from what I call a logical astigmatism.

Oh, and he will ban you at the drop of hat. Expecially if you get the better of him in an argument.

 

[silverbear]

I generally try to avoid speaking for Art or on behalf of Art on this forum. He's a big boy and can explain himself if he wants to.

I don't blame you, I'd hate to be assigned the task of defending that megalomaniacal little twit...

However, since you asked I'll let you all here in on a llittle secret that appears to have eluded most of you for years now: Art likes riling up Cowboy fans. He absolutely LOVES the fact that he can post something on his own forum and posters he's never even heard of will go back to their own homepages and chatter about him. He lives for crap like that.

Just something to thnk about the next time someone starts yet another 'can you believe what Art just posted' thread over here.

Hey, if Art gets off on being held up to ridicule because he spews stoopid, Cowboys-hating crap all the time, who are we to deny him his pleasure??

You must be so proud to have him as one of your authority figures... LOL...

 

[LeonDixson]

I'm not ready to say we're gonna pound the skins after game 1.Things can change very easy and I'll guarante the Skins will be no push overs.

They will pressure Bledsoe constantly, and will give us a hard time........However IMO we will come out with a "W" at the end of the day.

I agree with you DallasDomination. This rivalry has had a history of the down and out team jumping up and biting the better team on the azz. It could happen next Monday just as easily as it has in the past.

We still have a a bunch of rookies in key positions, especially on defense in a new system. We could look like crap next week. It's entirely possible. I wouldn't bet my life savings either way.

If we play well, we should win. That's what I'm hoping for.

 

[dougonthebench]

By the looks of extremeskins.com, Washington apparently has a better offense than us not just in one game but overall. This is not a joke, read some of the delusional masterpieces and you'll see homerism jump to levels unseen. You'll also notice that officials are seemingly out to get the team and that they must be blamed for everything.

If you wish to go deeper into the rabbit hole, note the countless posts stating that if Gates were to play and San Diego didn't commit stupid penalties then they would have won while the Skins would have blown the Bears away had penaties been called and this guy caught the ball and yadda, yadda, yadda.

It is also important to note that, theoritically, pigeons could fly out of my butt and sing Christmas carols to disadvantaged youth but I can't seem to find any feathers in my boxers.

Anywho, to confine the trash talking to one thread and not have new posts springing up, it would probably be ideal to keep it in one place. If you don't want to click on the link, you don't have to. That way, the site can still function as it normally does while addressing the needs of why the Skins suck and just why their fans seem to not be able to understand that we go through this every year and every year we win.

Godspeed gentlemen.

:starspin :skins: :suxskins: :bravo: I think you said it all!!!

 

[Henry]

I don't blame you, I'd hate to be assigned the task of defending that megalomaniacal little twit...

Yes, I've found megalomaniacal twits reside on many a messageboard. And I don't enjoy having to deal with any of them.

I think that's all I've got to say on this subject. Go ahead and attack the Skins. Attack their fans. Attack their messageboards. And feel good about your own classy attitude.

Later.

 

[BigDFan5]

I generally try to avoid speaking for Art or on behalf of Art on this forum. He's a big boy and can explain himself if he wants to.

However, since you asked I'll let you all here in on a llittle secret that appears to have eluded most of you for years now: Art likes riling up Cowboy fans. He absolutely LOVES the fact that he can post something on his own forum and posters he's never even heard of will go back to their own homepages and chatter about him. He lives for crap like that.

Just something to thnk about the next time someone starts yet another 'can you believe what Art just posted' thread over here.

So your saying ART is an attention ***** that doesn't truly believe his own posts?

 

[jcblanco22]

I generally try to avoid speaking for Art or on behalf of Art on this forum. He's a big boy and can explain himself if he wants to.

However, since you asked I'll let you all here in on a llittle secret that appears to have eluded most of you for years now: Art likes riling up Cowboy fans. He absolutely LOVES the fact that he can post something on his own forum and posters he's never even heard of will go back to their own homepages and chatter about him. He lives for crap like that.

Just something to thnk about the next time someone starts yet another 'can you believe what Art just posted' thread over here.

Hey, that's cool, and I understand that. And like I said earlier Henry, I'm familiar with your posts both here and of course on your own board, and I've always thought that you came across logical and fair. There's always room for discussion with any other team's fan when it's done in that manner, and I hope you've always been treated well here. Same goes for Bufford, whom I've seen on here from time to time as well.

Well anyhow, seeing as how Art does like to rile up the 'Boys fans a bit, I posted this little ditty in that ES thread a while ago to have some fun with him as well :

I think we have to give Art his due here. As a matter of fact, it's more than just giving him his due. I think that his logic has to be applied universally across the NFL landscape as it relates to yesterday's games. I say we begin with the Cowboys-Chargers game. The terms in quotes are particularly important to note, as they are semantic demonstrations of how the theory is being applied.

On the first Cowboys possession, Bledsoe and Al Johnson mishandle a snap. The Cowboys are on the move at the time and already in Chargers territory. The ball is turned over to the Chargers. "Unforced turnover".

Keenan McCardell runs free on two receptions over the middle of the field that directly result in 2 touchdowns for the Chargers. 14 points for the Chargers resulting from mental errors by the Dallas secondary, not as a result of McCardell actually beating any defender one-on-one. Two missed assignments by Cowboys FS Keith Davis equals Dallas "shooting themselves in the foot" and "beating themselves".

Overall, a 17-21 point swing in Dallas's favor. Erase these mistakes and the final score is Dallas 31 or 35 to San Diego's 10. Dallas "dominates" this game and wins going away.

Should be a heck of a game next Monday night between two "dominating" squads!!

Now remember:

The mere fact that applying the theory in every instance in which it could reasonably be applied (as opposed to just employing it when it can be deftly incorporated as a means to buttress one's own arguments) would not serve one's position well does not mean that one has creative license to refrain from doing so.

 

[silverbear]

Yes, I've found megalomaniacal twits reside on many a messageboard. And I don't enjoy having to deal with any of them.

Aw shucks, didn't your little defense of Art work out the way you'd hoped it would??

Bottom line, Art tried baiting Cowboys fans over here once before, and wound up slinking away with his tail between his legs... he's learned that he's better off staying over on his own board, where he has the power you guys gave him (God only knows why) to ban anybody who makes him look foolish... as a result, not many people try him over there...

But if he was REALLY as amused by baiting Cowboys fans as you've suggested here, I have to think he'd be over here, right up in our collective faces... after all, this IS the guy who bragged about throwing a godless Cowboys fan out of FedEx, isn't it??

Clearly, Art only gets mouthy when he's pretty sure he's got all the help he needs... he can't hang, one on one, which makes him a card-carrying punk...

I think that's all I've got to say on this subject. Go ahead and attack the Skins. Attack their fans. Attack their messageboards. And feel good about your own classy attitude.

Uhhhh, the only thing Skins-related that I've attacked is Art... now, he DOES reflect badly on extremeskins, and he is in fact the only reason I have never bothered to post over there... there's no point, he'd just try to argue with me, I'd make him look like the fool he is, then I'd be banned... but my interaction with others from your board (in here) has been considerably less hostile... I have no issues with your board, and unlike some others in here am not overly offended when some of your regulars get ultra-homeristic; the same thing happens in here, in fact I suspect it happens on football message boards everywhere, no matter the team...

Why you feel the need to defend that piece of crap is beyond me... and why you guys keep him on as a moderator, when he has so clearly abused those powers repeatedly, is equally mystifying...

As for my "classy attitude", I make no apologies for despising ol' Art, who is the very definition of classless... but at least I have "class" enough not to drag my opinions over to YOUR board... nope, in order for you to be offended by my lack of class, you have to come lookin' for me...

If you don't like Cowboys fans disliking Commanders fans, I'd suggest that this is not the place for you... you're bound to find yourself annoyed by our opinions in here...

And any talk about "class" from a moderator of a board that tolerates, even applauds, the naked fascism that is Art is really pretty hypocritical... how classy is it to order a poster on a message board to post EXACTLY what you want him to, or face banning?? And how classy is it to BRAG about acting like a thug (assuming the FedEx incident actually happened, which I sincerely doubt)??

If that's your definition of "class", I want no part of it... happily, I consider you and Om to be considerably more classy, and therefore more interesting to talk to...

 

[jcblanco22]

Aw shucks, didn't your little defense of Art work out the way you'd hoped it would??

Bottom line, Art tried baiting Cowboys fans over here once before, and wound up slinking away with his tail between his legs... he's learned that he's better off staying over on his own board, where he has the power you guys gave him (God only knows why) to ban anybody who makes him look foolish... as a result, not many people try him over there...

But if he was REALLY as amused by baiting Cowboys fans as you've suggested here, I have to think he'd be over here, right up in our collective faces... after all, this IS the guy who bragged about throwing a godless Cowboys fan out of FedEx, isn't it??

Clearly, Art only gets mouthy when he's pretty sure he's got all the help he needs... he can't hang, one on one, which makes him a card-carrying punk...



Uhhhh, the only thing Skins-related that I've attacked is Art... now, he DOES reflect badly on extremeskins, and he is in fact the only reason I have never bothered to post over there... there's no point, he'd just try to argue with me, I'd make him look like the fool he is, then I'd be banned... but my interaction with others from your board (in here) has been considerably less hostile... I have no issues with your board, and unlike some others in here am not overly offended when some of your regulars get ultra-homeristic; the same thing happens in here, in fact I suspect it happens on football message boards everywhere, no matter the team...

Why you feel the need to defend that piece of crap is beyond me... and why you guys keep him on as a moderator, when he has so clearly abused those powers repeatedly, is equally mystifying...

As for my "classy attitude", I make no apologies for despising ol' Art, who is the very definition of classless... but at least I have "class" enough not to drag my opinions over to YOUR board... nope, in order for you to be offended by my lack of class, you have to come lookin' for me...

If you don't like Cowboys fans disliking Commanders fans, I'd suggest that this is not the place for you... you're bound to find yourself annoyed by our opinions in here...

And any talk about "class" from a moderator of a board that tolerates, even applauds, the naked fascism that is Art is really pretty hypocritical... how classy is it to order a poster on a message board to post EXACTLY what you want him to, or face banning?? And how classy is it to BRAG about acting like a thug (assuming the FedEx incident actually happened, which I sincerely doubt)??

If that's your definition of "class", I want no part of it... happily, I consider you and Om to be considerably more classy, and therefore more interesting to talk to...

Silverbear, what was the "FeEx incident" ? I'm curious...