Note On Robinson

We better make an honest offer. Nothing about the recent health of our skill position players suggests we can survive a season with less than 3 capable WRs and expect to run our offense.
 
WoodysGirl;4454491 said:
He'd be the Larry Fitzgerald of the AFC South. Nice WR talent w/no QB.

And a much bigger bank account.

I can't ever blame a player for taking significantly more money to play in once place compared to another.
 
Needs to sign somewhere else and get away from Dallas. If he signs with the Cowboys the outcome is not going to be good for either side. He has to go to a place where he can be the #1 or #2 option and be given the chance to justify his contract.

That's not going to happen in Dallas.

What would happen if he resigns, though, is that when things get tough, the first thing that will be coming out of the medias and fans mouths is that he's not living up to his contract because he's not producing enough. Part of the reason why he's so beloved today is because he accomplished a great deal at, basically, minimum wage. Scenario: he resigns with the Cowboys, he accomplishes pretty much the same numbers he did last year, for whatever reasons the team does pretty much the same thing, but now he's overpaid. As it is, people were complaining about Dez not doing enough and about Miles not earning his keep, even some asking for him to be cut after the season was over.

And although we're not at a point to talk about a contract extension for Dez, that very point is alot closer than most people realize.

I'm very thankful for Robinson's contributions, which were magnificent, and I'd HATE to see him go, but unless the team is prepared to move Austin or Dez ( which I would be opposed to ), and make Robinson a #1 or #2, he has to go. The third receiver on this team must be a 4th, 5th, or 6th option who can be a #3 or #2 option at a moments notice, but still play within his role. The minute that 3rd receiver starts cutting into the pass attempts designated for the big three ( Jason, Dez, and Miles ), it's when the problems start. That's a lesson the organization should have learned from the 2007-2009 teams.
 
DOUBLE WING;4454498 said:
Can't blame him, I'd take it too.

I think he realizes the grass isn't greener on the other side and Dallas is the best place for him career-wise, but if you get bowled over by a money offer then you have to take it.

The wide receiver market is killing us. Too many have gone off the board too fast ... and for too much.

It likely means Robinson will be overpaid. If a couple of the starting tier of receivers had held out for a few more days, I think our chances of re-signing him would be better. Instead, he moves up a tier, which should drive up his price.
 
SDogo;4454344 said:
If he signs elsewhere it won't be any fault of his. Just spoke to someone close to the Robinson camp (Thanks to KellyQ of Miami for the new contact) and his agent as well as Robinson guarantee nothing will be signed until Dallas has a chance to match. Just know if he does sign somewhere, Dallas got their shot.

On the flip side, don't sweat these visits, Dallas will not lose Robinson with out a opportunity to buy back his services.

interesting insight. thanks for sharing. sounds like it is what it is.....cowboys want him, LR wants to be here, both both have a business decision to make.
we'll see how steep the market goes for him....... i think he's gone though.

:starspin
 
casmith07;4454373 said:
They're going to give him Garçon money, haha.

Seriously though, they'd have to pay him big time. And in Miami or Jacksonville, who's throwing to him?

ah Peyton Manning
 
The market for WRs is just too frothy and the supply is drying up. If Jax came in and bid $6mm/yr for LR, we're way out of the market.
 
I really like this guy. He was one of the few absolute bright spots on the team last year. He made many clutch catches and had such a good connection with Romo. Romo is a great improviser and only certain players can really play well with those kinds of guys. Robinson almost always seemed to be on the same page with Romo. This is the one guy I really do not want to lose this offseason. As far as him being a 3rd WR, well he had to start quite a bit last year for the oft-injured starters we have on this team and did very well. In today's NFL the 3rd WR, like the nickel CB, is essentially a starter. As long as the #s are not completely absurd, I believe the team should do what it can to retain him.
 
gimmesix;4454614 said:
The wide receiver market is killing us. Too many have gone off the board too fast ... and for too much.

It likely means Robinson will be overpaid. If a couple of the starting tier of receivers had held out for a few more days, I think our chances of re-signing him would be better. Instead, he moves up a tier, which should drive up his price.

Yeah I was counting on the deep WR market to drive down Robinson's asking price but many of the big names getting franchised thinned out the pool. Thus Robinson has become a hotter commodity. :(
 
Shinywalrus;4454721 said:
The market for WRs is just too frothy and the supply is drying up. If Jax came in and bid $6mm/yr for LR, we're way out of the market.

Well we will have to pay to keep him, no question, we can't expect all these guys to just sign with us for cheap just to wear the star for another season. They want money too.

I figure Robinson will want a deal similar to what Meacham signed, and that was 4 years at 26.9 million.

The market is expensive, we can either spend the money or stay mediocre.
 
I think saying Robinson leaving Dallas will be on the Cowboys is a bit shortsighted and simplistic. Robinson knows the cap and personnel situations of the teams involved. He knows he won't be a #1 in Dallas and that the team can't pay him like a #1 as other teams can. It's easy for him to say "i want to stay in Dallas," but that comes with a huge caveat: IF the Cowboys pay me market value (and I certainly don't blame him for that). But the bottom line is, if Robinson really wants to stay in Dallas, he can.
 
VACowboy;4454914 said:
I think saying Robinson leaving Dallas will be on the Cowboys is a bit shortsighted and simplistic. Robinson knows the cap and personnel situations of the teams involved. He knows he won't be a #1 in Dallas and that the team can't pay him like a #1 as other teams can. It's easy for him to say "i want to stay in Dallas," but that comes with a huge caveat: IF the Cowboys pay me market value (and I certainly don't blame him for that). But the bottom line is, if Robinson really wants to stay in Dallas, he can.

Dallas plays a lot of 3 WR sets. Remember, he scored 11 TDs here as the 3rd WR and not playing an entire season.

He would have no problem staying here. He will get plenty of playing time and he will have a better QB than Miami has.
 
Robinson has to realize that this is his one shot at the big money. If a team offers a couple million more a year then dallas does then he really has to go that way.

Now for those claiming we do not need him think again. I believe Dez is getting it and will continue to improve.

BUT I am beginning to think that Miles will always be a injury problem.
 
Sam I Am;4454920 said:
Dallas plays a lot of 3 WR sets. Remember, he scored 11 TDs here as the 3rd WR and not playing an entire season.

He would have no problem staying here. He will get plenty of playing time and he will have a better QB than Miami has.

That may be true, but as burm says above, this is about money.
 
VACowboy;4454935 said:
That may be true, but as burm says above, this is about money.



isn't it always? Can't blame him: brutally violent sport: Jville though? blah.....sorry to see him go. Matter of time IMO...............
 
Deep_Freeze;4454764 said:
Well we will have to pay to keep him, no question, we can't expect all these guys to just sign with us for cheap just to wear the star for another season. They want money too.

I figure Robinson will want a deal similar to what Meacham signed, and that was 4 years at 26.9 million.

The market is expensive, we can either spend the money or stay mediocre.

That's not a winning strategy. You have to pick your spots.

Overpay where you think you've got a bottleneck holding the team back, not at a position where we have decent production. Our receiver and tight end situation doesn't merit throwing dumb cash at it.
 
Shinywalrus;4455011 said:
That's not a winning strategy. You have to pick your spots.

Overpay where you think you've got a bottleneck holding the team back, not at a position where we have decent production. Our receiver and tight end situation doesn't merit throwing dumb cash at it.

Oh I agree, I guess that should've said, if you want to keep him you gotta pay him or let him walk.

We shouldn't be mad if he gets a better offer and wants to leave without a 'Cowboy discount'.
 
Shinywalrus;4455011 said:
That's not a winning strategy. You have to pick your spots.

Overpay where you think you've got a bottleneck holding the team back, not at a position where we have decent production. Our receiver and tight end situation doesn't merit throwing dumb cash at it.

Exactly. Paying more at Cb would make sense. We have Dez and Miles at WR, plus some young guys that can develop. At corner, Jenkins hits the market next year and Scandrick is coming off a bad year. We need corner help in a bad way and will be playing our cards face up if we go into the draft without adding a starting caliber corner.
 

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