Note to Roy

btcutter · Nov 20, 2006

You are the most fear safety in the league and by far the most physical. Please use that physicality(sp) to your advantage in the redzone or goaline situation. You "chuck" Clark for an interception! Great play....but then later you allowed him a free release that resulted in a TD. See my point?! You can hit ANYONE within 5 yds of LOS....so use it to your advantage. Once you hit the TE/WR, most of the time they are on the ground or the timing is so off that the QB won't even look your way. Please remember that INT in the first half and use that technique to take advantage of your biggest asset.

PS. nice hit on the TE! It should be on Jacked Up tonight!

aznhalf · Nov 20, 2006

He was playing off because the LB that was on him came on the blitz. He wasn't on the LOS when the play started.

It was a bad position to put him in.

YosemiteSam · Nov 20, 2006

btcutter;1175525 said:
You are the most fear safety in the league and by far the most physical. Please use that physicality(sp) to your advantage in the redzone or goaline situation. You "chuck" Clark for an interception! Great play....but then later you allowed him a free release that resulted in a TD. See my point?! You can hit ANYONE within 5 yds of LOS....so use it to your advantage. Once you hit the TE/WR, most of the time they are on the ground or the timing is so off that the QB won't even look your way. Please remember that INT in the first half and use that technique to take advantage of your biggest asset.

PS. nice hit on the TE! It should be on Jacked Up tonight!

Roy plays zone coverage great. He utterly stinks at man to man coverage. That probably isn't going to change.

hmcorp · Nov 20, 2006

roy is 2nd in interceptions for a safety and 4th in passes defended.

ill take it.

Doomsday101 · Nov 20, 2006

aznhalf;1175530 said:
He was playing off because the LB that was on him came on the blitz. He wasn't on the LOS when the play started.

It was a bad position to put him in.

I agree. All I ask from Roy is don't kill our own guys. Man he laid a big hit on Henry as he was coming over to help but missed the WR and nailed Henry. All in all Roy played a good game along with the other guys on defense.

EMMITTnROY · Nov 20, 2006

hmcorp;1175538 said:
roy is 2nd in interceptions for a safety and 4th in passes defended.

ill take it.

exactly..

not to mention, he is second in the NFL in total takeaways..

oh, and then there is that whole "most feared hitter in the NFL" thing..

and I don't know any official stats, but he has had to have made more plays on goalline stands than anyone in the league..

btcutter · Nov 20, 2006

I know we can't have an ALL world Roy but just want him to know that he should use the "rule" to his advantage and cover his biggest weakness.

superpunk · Nov 20, 2006

nyc;1175536 said:
Roy plays zone coverage great. He utterly stinks at man to man coverage. That probably isn't going to change.

That's why they're safeties. Same thing happened with Dawkins yesterday. Allowed a TD and made a bad read ona ball he could have picked off in the end zone.

WV Cowboy · Nov 20, 2006

Doomsday101;1175539 said:
I agree. All I ask from Roy is don't kill our own guys. Man he laid a big hit on Henry as he was coming over to help but missed the WR and nailed Henry. All in all Roy played a good game along with the other guys on defense.

Plus, let Newman make the pick, don't come in and break it up.

J/K, ... Roy had a great game, the whole defense did !!

Doomsday101 · Nov 20, 2006

WV Cowboy;1175596 said:
Plus, let Newman make the pick, don't come in and break it up.

J/K, ... Roy had a great game, the whole defense did !!

True, Newman has a big pick had Roy not come in and knocked it out. I do agree Roy and the rest of the defense played a very good game.

Paniolo22 · Nov 20, 2006

Look, we've seen this a couple of times this season. When the TE does a double move inside then outside, Roy cannot stick with them, as well as most CB's. The good ones anticipate the move and have the quickness to recover, and we all know that quickness is not Roy's strong suit. I don't really blame him because he has to make a choice, 1st move or 2nd. If the pass is great, the defender really has no chance and it doesn't matter if it is RW or anyone else.

Future · Nov 20, 2006

hmcorp;1175538 said:
roy is 2nd in interceptions for a safety and 4th in passes defended.

ill take it.

And hes first in bad angles and getting beat in the end zone...

dfense · Nov 20, 2006

aznhalf;1175530 said:
He was playing off because the LB that was on him came on the blitz. He wasn't on the LOS when the play started.

It was a bad position to put him in.

That's right. If the LB didn't blitz it's his job to reroute the slot receiver. If Roy lined up on the guy, he'd be tipping Manning off that it was man coverage anyhow.

superpunk · Nov 20, 2006

Future 585;1175706 said:
And hes first in bad angles and getting beat in the end zone...

Also first in scaring the snot out of the Colts receivers.

Don't pretend that any safety in the NFL can handle Clark playing off like Roy was last night. Maybe that was on him being that far back, but I doubt it.

tyke1doe · Nov 20, 2006

You guys know so much about football.

adamknite · Nov 20, 2006

a player good at man to man coverage are usually called corner backs... not strong safeties. That's why I can overlook his goofs in coverage and his sometimes poor angles he takes. I didn't like it at the time but his hit on Newman to knock away the interception looked like just like he was aiming for Newman if he was the intended reciever and purposely trying to blast him, kinda funny looking.

Clove · Nov 20, 2006

btcutter;1175548 said:
I know we can't have an ALL world Roy but just want him to know that he should use the "rule" to his advantage and cover his biggest weakness.

This is not the "bash Roy" week IMO. A couple of weeks ago, even I bashed him, but this ain't the time. Okay, he allowed a TD, but he also saved one by knocking the TE down, and intercepting the pass. That makes him even.

And BTW, that hit on the TE made the Colts receivers panic on high passes, resulting in numerous dropped passes.

Dave_in-NC · Nov 20, 2006

I just wish he would figure out what uniform the other team is wearing. He's going to knock out some of our own sooner or later.:laugh2:

Cheers to Roy, he's a great player for us.

AdamJT13 · Nov 20, 2006

Future 585;1175706 said:
And hes first in bad angles and getting beat in the end zone...

You must not pay attention to very many safeties.

tyke1doe · Nov 20, 2006

superpunk;1175713 said:
Also first in scaring the snot out of the Colts receivers.

Don't pretend that any safety in the NFL can handle Clark playing off like Roy was last night. Maybe that was on him being that far back, but I doubt it.

Some don't understand how football is played.

On goalline situations you're playing run and pass with little margin for error.

Roy plays close to the TE, he gets blocked if it's a run play.

He plays too close to the TE, the TE shakes him. (It's easy to shake a guy who's playing close to you.)

You track the receiver and the quarterback either runs or throws the ball to the spot you vacated.

It's not a static position, playing safety and playing on the goal line.

It's constant motion. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

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