NY Times- Baylor Has Built Texas Sized Athletic Program

[Doomsday101]

i think you are underestimating the impact of Robert Griffin on recruiting. To be able to tout that a heisman trophy winner recently played at your school, its a great tool for schools to use in recruiting. i think baylor is done being crappy for the foreseeable future. Tech might be taking over that role in the big 12

I agree not to mention winning. Baylor playing games on national TV getting the exposer helps in terms of recruiting as well. I'm not trying to say Baylor will become some national power house but given where they have been in the Big 12 they have a chance to become a much better program and with more success the job of getting quality kids gets a bit easier

 

[DFWJC]

Good read.

But if you want "best overall athletic program" you need to refer to the Director's Cup; maybe run an average over the last 5-10 years.
Then maybe cross-reference that by high grading the sports that garner the most interest (football, bsketball, etc) and you have an answer.

The top group includes the usual suspects Stanford, Florida, Texas, North Carolina, UCLA, Michigan, Ohio St, USC, etc.

Baylor has risen fast, but in 2010-11 they still only finished 36th .

 

[The30YardSlant]

i think you are underestimating the impact of Robert Griffin on recruiting. To be able to tout that a heisman trophy winner recently played at your school, its a great tool for schools to use in recruiting. i think baylor is done being crappy for the foreseeable future. Tech might be taking over that role in the big 12

But you're still having to convince elite high school recruits to live in Waco with marginal facilities and woeful fan support for four years.

 

[The30YardSlant]

RG4 maybe a stretch but Nick Florence has been compared favorably by scouts to Colt McCoy.

So with RG3 and Florence you may have the Baylor version of Vince Young to Colt McCoy.

One UT insider was supposedly so flabbergasted by Baylor's deep bench versus Texas' quarterback woes as to speculate that Florence would've had the 2011 Longhorns in a BCS Bowl if he had been their quarterback instead of Case and Ash.

Florence started the 2009 season as a true freshman after RG3 was hurt, so he isn't a rookie, and he's considered a player coach, RG3 would often confer with him on the sideline as Florence called in the plays and helped identify coverages.

Florence was below average at best in 2009 (6 YPA, 6 TD, 9 INT) and has thrown a grand total of 24 passes the last two seasons. He may in fact be a solid QB, but it's pure speculation at this point.

 

[Aikbach]

Florence was below average at best in 2009 (6 YPA, 6 TD, 9 INT) and has thrown a grand total of 24 passes the last two seasons. He may in fact be a solid QB, but it's pure speculation at this point.

Yawn Aggy, we get it, you can't ever stand it when someone does well, get over it and move on.

fact is scouts are high on Florence and he's better than Reggie McNeal, Stephen McGee, Jerrod Johnson and whatever other supposed heisman candidates A&M has self proclaimed over the last decade.

Playing in Waco isn't any less insufferable to College Station, a town close to nothing of note and home to nothing of interest to a collegiate athlete.


Baylor ranked and rising, Aggies unranked, fans distraught and whining, we get it.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Yawn Aggy, we get it, you can't ever stand it when someone does well, get over it and move on.

It's simply a statement of fact. Anyone comparing him to Colt McCoy at this point is a fool, because there is NOTHING to indicate that in his incredibly limited playing time.

fact is scouts are high on Florence and he's better than Reggie McNeal, Stephen McGee, Jerrod Johnson and whatever other supposed heisman candidates A&M has self proclaimed over the last decade.

But all were better than Shawn Bell, who Florence is just as likely to turn out to be. Again, there is literally nothing but speculation on him.

Playing in Waco isn't any less insufferable to College Station, a town close to nothing of note and home to nothing of interest to a collegiate athlete.

Probably not, but A&M has top notch fan support and facilities and a much lower crime and poverty rate even if you include Bryan. Not sure why you have to always make things about A&M, though.

Baylor ranked and rising, Aggies unranked, fans distraught and whining, we get it.

Again, not sure what any of this has to do with A&M.

 

[cowboyeric8]

Death, taxes, and Baylor threads.

 

[Cythim]

Yawn Aggy, we get it, you can't ever stand it when someone does well, get over it and move on.

fact is scouts are high on Florence and he's better than Reggie McNeal, Stephen McGee, Jerrod Johnson and whatever other supposed heisman candidates A&M has self proclaimed over the last decade.

Playing in Waco isn't any less insufferable to College Station, a town close to nothing of note and home to nothing of interest to a collegiate athlete.


Baylor ranked and rising, Aggies unranked, fans distraught and whining, we get it.

I love how you always have to drag TAMU into this and make it a comparison of the two schools. The point is there is nothing but speculation as to how well your new QB will play. He could be great or he could be a hot mess, we won't know until he plays. Scouts are high on a lot of different QBs, some are booms are many are busts. But go ahead a deride TAMU and College Station in your effort to inflate your own school if that is what you feel you must do.

 

[Doomsday101]

I love how you always have to drag TAMU into this and make it a comparison of the two schools. The point is there is nothing but speculation as to how well your new QB will play. He could be great or he could be a hot mess, we won't know until he plays. Scouts are high on a lot of different QBs, some are booms are many are busts. But go ahead a deride TAMU and College Station in your effort to inflate your own school if that is what you feel you must do.

I agree right now he is a bit unknown since he has played behind RGIII, I will say Briles seems to get the most out of the QB in his offense be it at UH or now at Baylor. RGIII went to Baylor in large part because Briles left UH for the Baylor job.

 

[Cythim]

I agree right now he is a bit unknown since he has played behind RGIII, I will say Briles seems to get the most out of the QB in his offense be it at UH or now at Baylor. RGIII went to Baylor in large part because Briles left UH for the Baylor job.

I don't disagree that Briles seems to have some talent is picking and grooming QBs, but we can all see with UT's current situation that expectation does not create a good QB. I would be cheering for Baylor to continue humiliating Texas and Oklahoma if it weren't for Aikbach running his mouth. I am proud for them to be able to build their programs, it is just hard to enjoy when someone can be so annoying about it. It is like when your brother nails a hot chick and won't shut up about it, you want to be happy for him and punch him in the face at the same time.

 

[Doomsday101]

I don't disagree that Briles seems to have some talent is picking and grooming QBs, but we can all see with UT's current situation that expectation does not create a good QB. I would be cheering for Baylor to continue humiliating Texas and Oklahoma if it weren't for Aikbach running his mouth. I am proud for them to be able to build their programs, it is just hard to enjoy when someone can be so annoying about it. It is like when your brother nails a hot chick and won't shut up about it, you want to be happy for him and punch him in the face at the same time.

I don't mind Baylor beating OU but my Horns is a different story. Just a pet peeve when people say they can't become a good program. Clearly with teams like Texas and OU being 2 of the top teams in the Big 12 it is hard to outfight them for prospects but Texas is a big state with a lot of good players out there. In my view if a school and it's alumni are willing to back and support their program and you put the staff in place you can build a successful program.

 

[Aikbach]

I don't disagree that Briles seems to have some talent is picking and grooming QBs, but we can all see with UT's current situation that expectation does not create a good QB. I would be cheering for Baylor to continue humiliating Texas and Oklahoma if it weren't for Aikbach running his mouth. I am proud for them to be able to build their programs, it is just hard to enjoy when someone can be so annoying about it. It is like when your brother nails a hot chick and won't shut up about it, you want to be happy for him and punch him in the face at the same time.

LOL at the mouth running, you and slant act like condescending punks each and everytime any team that isn't from college station outclasses you and it's just a tad ridiculous. Any mouth running you receive is putting you dotes in your place for your perpetual ***** envy.

You always find something to demean or cast aside, perhaps it's your own attitude you should check.

 

[Cythim]

LOL at the mouth running, you and slant act like condescending punks each and everytime any team that isn't from college station outclasses you and it's just a tad ridiculous. Any mouth running you receive is putting you dotes in your place for your perpetual ***** envy.

You always find something to demean or cast aside, perhaps it's your own attitude you should check.

:laugh2: What crawled up your skirt? Like I said, I am proud for Baylor for what they have been able to accomplish. You, on the other hand, make the school look bad by coming around here acting like a giant tool. I haven't said anything that isn't true, you just like to pretend Baylor is as big as Stanford.

 

[Aikbach]

:laugh2: What crawled up your skirt? Like I said, I am proud for Baylor for what they have been able to accomplish. You, on the other hand, make the school look bad by coming around here acting like a giant tool. I haven't said anything that isn't true, you just like to pretend Baylor is as big as Stanford.

Psst, take a look a round and notice you two are mocked on every thread, do me a favor and put me on ignore and don't post on any threads I post. No one solicited your juvenile rinse and repeat Baylor bashing that you throw about every time someone says something nice about them.

So quit projecting as if anyone has solicited or provoked you into acting like an idiot repeatedly.

 

[Cythim]

Psst, take a look a round and notice you two are mocked on every thread, do me a favor and put me on ignore and don't post on any threads I post. No one solicited your juvenile rinse and repeat Baylor bashing that you throw about every time someone says something nice about them.

So quit projecting as if anyone has solicited or provoked you into acting like an idiot repeatedly.

This is a forum where everyone is free to discuss their opinion, whether it be supportive or contrary to the topic at hand. If you cannot handle reading opinion that doesn't blow sunshine and rainbows up the rear of Baylor fans perhaps you should find another forum to discuss these topics in. Until then quit trying to run me off by saying "ZOMG YOU WEREN'T INVITED TO THIS THREAD!"



Do yourself the favor and put me on ignore if you don't want to read what I post about Baylor.

 

[cowboyeric8]

Psst, take a look a round and notice you two are mocked on every thread, do me a favor and put me on ignore and don't post on any threads I post. No one solicited your juvenile rinse and repeat Baylor bashing that you throw about every time someone says something nice about them.

So quit projecting as if anyone has solicited or provoked you into acting like an idiot repeatedly.

I don't think they are mocked at all. They just defend A&M when people take pot shots at them.

 

[Aikbach]

I don't think they are mocked at all. They just defend A&M when people take pot shots at them.

I've seldom seen anyone take a shot at A&M that wasn't simply reminding those particular posters to get over themselves, this thread is pretty good indication.

There is such a thing as not posting if you have nothing to contribute in a constructive manner, we all know they like to minimize other people's successes and get offended when they're asked what success A&M has had to speak of in return.

 

[The30YardSlant]

I've seldom seen anyone take a shot at A&M that wasn't simply reminding those particular posters to get over themselves, this thread is pretty good indication.

There is such a thing as not posting if you have nothing to contribute in a constructive manner, we all know they like to minimize other people's successes and get offended when they're asked what success A&M has had to speak of in return.

This thread was entirely about Baylor until you went off on A&M in post #25, and it was all constructive prior to that. In a thread about athletic success and the ability of their athletic program to keep improving noting potential limitations is a very logical part of the discussion. You simply don't see anything that isnt 100% positive with regards to Baylor as constructive and resort to personal insults and sweeping generalizations. In every A&M or Baylor thread that has ever devolved on this board, I can point to a single post made BY YOU containing either a personal insult or an institutional insult that started it all. Everyone here is capable of having a rational discussion about Baylor...except you.

 

[DFWJC]

I guess this thread took a detour.....

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I've seldom seen anyone take a shot at A&M that wasn't simply reminding those particular posters to get over themselves, this thread is pretty good indication.

There is such a thing as not posting if you have nothing to contribute in a constructive manner, we all know they like to minimize other people's successes and get offended when they're asked what success A&M has had to speak of in return.

You take shots at ATM whenever there is a thread talking about ATM or if ATM fans chime in on baylor.

Whatever you claim they do, you do as well. You are like the baylor version of them.

I really don't know how you don't see it.