NY Times: Giants' Tuck Is Fined $7,500 for Hit on Bollinger***NFL Rescinds fine***

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Ren;2406516 said:
I didn't think that hit was a big deal not worthy of a flag or fine

What are we playing here flag football or two hand touch? I love my boys, But that was a perfect form tackle that your taught in Junior football.

Helmet in the sternum roll your hips and Blam, down goes the runner or QB in this case.

The NFL is getting petty with all these fines and suspensions in my opinion.
 

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the kid 05;2406593 said:
uhh no. Basic Fundamentals of football, wrap up and drive the ball carrier to the ground.

Ware has done it to Marshall faulk before and received no penalty
(22-31 seconds into video)
Uh, Ware is clearly not leading with his helmet, it is more towards the side, he is clearly leading with his shoulder. Tuck had his helmet right in the middle of Bollinger's chest, close enough to his chin.

AND FAULK HAD THE BALL....
 

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it was a textbook hit by tuck...there should have not been a penalty or a fine.

i just love the way brooks starting playing football after that hit.

before that hit he looked like a deer in the headlights...

after that hit he came out throwing darts.
 

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NFL RESCINDS JUSTIN TUCK FINE

Posted by Michael David Smith on November 7, 2008, 8:24 p.m.

On Sunday Giants defensive end Justin Tuck delivered what appeared to most observers to be a legal, clean hit on Cowboys quarterback Brooks Bollinger. But even though there was nothing dirty about the play, Tuck was called for a personal foul.

That was baffling, and it was really baffling when news surfaced that Tuck would be fined $7,500.

But there’s good news today for Tuck — and for those who don’t want to see the NFL turn into a two-hand touch league: Tuck’s fine has been rescinded.

Paul Needell of The Star-Ledger reports that Ray Anderson, who handles NFL discipline, will inform Tuck tonight that he doesn’t have to pay the fine.
According to the report, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell didn’t see the play until today, and when he did, he immediately informed Anderson the fine was too harsh.

It’s a little surprising that it took Goodell until today to see a play that most NFL fans have seen several times since Sunday, but it’s refreshing that Goodell applied some common sense and decided that no fine is necessary for this:
 

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Reality;2406514 said:
.. and I thought it was to pressure or sack the quarterback.

Wow! I'm glad we have Justa Thug, er Tuck, out there protecting us from all of the evil quarterbacks in the world.

-Reality
I am so glad this turned out the way it did. Your "Justa Thug" comment was so uncalled for. Most of this site was objective yet you chose to be a homer.

What do you expect a D-Line to think of the QB as?!?!?
 

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GMen86;2407802 said:
I am so glad this turned out the way it did. Your "Justa Thug" comment was so uncalled for. Most of this site was objective yet you chose to be a homer.

What do you expect a D-Line to think of the QB as?!?!?

I think it was a penalty. By rule, you cannot put all your weight onto the QB when you bring him down.

The rule is completely stupid, but if that's the rule, then that was a penalty.


They should just remove that rule since they obviously don't want to enforce it anyway.
 

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dgr81;2407628 said:
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell didn’t see the play until today, and when he did, he immediately informed Anderson the fine was too harsh.

That's says a lot right there. How can the commish have waited until Friday to see the play. I really hate this guy.

What's next, fine and suspend a position coach for using pharmaceuticals to help fight diabetes? Oh, wait, my bad:mad:
 

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Rack;2407855 said:
I think it was a penalty. By rule, you cannot put all your weight onto the QB when you bring him down.


The rule is completely stupid, but if that's the rule, then that was a penalty.


They should just remove that rule since they obviously don't want to enforce it anyway.

You better believe its a penalty. Now, refresh my memory for those who remember, and i'm sorry its a year later. but during last seasons 3 game stretch against the 'Skins, Eagles, and Giants, Tank Johnson was fined for the same type of hit on Jason Campbell, or Eli Manning. A good clean hit at the waste and taken to the ground the same way as Tuck did! So once again, the Goodell Administration is showing itself to be biased against the 'Boys!! And Ware is not offsides after alot of those great jumps off of the ball!
 

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lol.... So much for the strong-armed commissioner. He's pandering just like a politician.
 

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rathalarge;2407944 said:
You better believe its a penalty. Now, refresh my memory for those who remember, and i'm sorry its a year later. but during last seasons 3 game stretch against the 'Skins, Eagles, and Giants, Tank Johnson was fined for the same type of hit on Jason Campbell, or Eli Manning. A good clean hit at the waste and taken to the ground the same way as Tuck did! So once again, the Goodell Administration is showing itself to be biased against the 'Boys!! And Ware is not offsides after alot of those great jumps off of the ball!

Its one thing if the defensive player has his feet planted, gets a firm hold of the QB and then uses his legs for extra force in driving the QB into the ground.......but Tuck dove towards the QB and hit him, driving him to the ground. I don't see how he could have controlled the driving part, since he was completely airborne at the time of the hit.
 

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peplaw06;2408048 said:
lol.... So much for the strong-armed commissioner. He's pandering just like a politician.

All I see is a bunch of hypocritical actions by the commissioner. What does his job entail anyways? Drinking margaritas at NFL events and mingling with the owners. Sounds like a good job if you can get it. I still don't know what purpose he serves.
 

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I thought it was a beautiful and clean hit. Tuck was already in motion and delivered a perfect text book blow... That's just how it's taught...
 

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Rescinded the fine? Did he rescind Pacman's suspension for accidentally breaking a light switch?? Where is the justice?
 

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Commish made the right decision. By jumping in the air at the last second, Bollinger played a big part in his own "victimization." Tuck, as good as he is, cannot defy the laws of physics.
 

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dgr81;2407628 said:
NFL RESCINDS JUSTIN TUCK FINE

Posted by Michael David Smith on November 7, 2008, 8:24 p.m.

On Sunday Giants defensive end Justin Tuck delivered what appeared to most observers to be a legal, clean hit on Cowboys quarterback Brooks Bollinger. But even though there was nothing dirty about the play, Tuck was called for a personal foul.
Not that PFT matters, but I wonder if they were saying this for that totally bogus personal foul on Bigg when he knocked down Strahan while the play was still going on in the playoff game last year? :rolleyes:
 

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Mansta54;2408154 said:
I thought it was a beautiful and clean hit. Tuck was already in motion and delivered a perfect text book blow... That's just how it's taught...
I agree. he should've never been penalized or fined in the 1st place.
 

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im a diehard cowboys fan but that was a perfect hit should of been no penalty
 

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bbgun;2408166 said:
Commish made the right decision. By jumping in the air at the last second, Bollinger played a big part in his own "victimization." Tuck, as good as he is, cannot defy the laws of physics.

I think it was a good hit, but don't know where the idea of Bollinger jumping came from. I've heard it several times, but everytime I see the replay, Bollinger is stepping into the throw, with his feet on the ground, when he is hit.
 

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Sorry, but by rule, it was a penalty. It just wasn't one deserving of a fine. As the NFL spokesman said, "Not every penalty deserves a fine."

If a pass-rusher tries to swat the ball out of the quarterback's hand and his hand bumps the quarterback's helmet, it is a penalty. But if it's not flagrant, he's not going to get fined.

The same applies to Tuck's hit. It's a penalty by rule, but it wasn't bad enough to get him fined.
 
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