O-line Thoughts

[NextGenBoys]

I hate the future of Free at LT and Robert JAG Brewster at RT

Please get Gaither..a REAL professional LT.

I hate when people say these things.

You have NOTHING to base your judgement that Brewster is JAG. You're saying that simply because he was a mid-round pick you haven't heard of.

He might not develop into anything, but he might be our starter a year or two down the road. Just because he wasn't a big name doesn't mean anything.

 

[Hostile]

My preference is we draft Iupati and an OT prospect who can be groomed. I'd like to move on from McQuistan, Holland, and Preston with Iupati, an OT prospect and Bright.

 

[Eskimo]

My preference is we draft Iupati and an OT prospect who can be groomed. I'd like to move on from McQuistan, Holland, and Preston with Iupati, an OT prospect and Bright.

That would definitely be progress and it would be good to get rid of that dead weight.

 

[Hostile]

That would definitely be progress and it would be good to get rid of that dead weight.

I forgot one thing. I would keep Flozell.

 

[NextGenBoys]

My preference is we draft Iupati and an OT prospect who can be groomed. I'd like to move on from McQuistan, Holland, and Preston with Iupati, an OT prospect and Bright.

No argument against that...but if a playmaking safety is there it will be sooo tempting not to take him.

We need Oline depth, but I think we might be able to get by another year with what we have, and maybe a second round Olinemen.

If Iupati is not there when we're up, I hope we go safety/MLB. Dez Bryant if he's there too.

And you think Flozell will stay as a backup??? I dont.

 

[sonnyboy]

Since there's no cap, there's no need to cut Flozell.

There is a need to sink huge resources into the OL. We just can't afford to blow this. Our OL is too old and too likely to suffer injury to not have great depth. We're going to have to replace too many current starters over the next few years.

And the best way to not blow it is to have a redundancy of effort. We should be drafting OL on all three days of the draft.

 

[UnoDallas]

And you think Flozell will stay as a backup??? I dont.

whats he going do retire - he is signed by Dallas until like forever

I never understood that contract sign a 32 year old line man to six year deal

Jerry buddy get smarter with your money

2/28/2008: Signed a six-year, $43.8 million contract. The deal contains $15 million guaranteed, including a $13 million signing bonus. 2010: $5 million (+ $2.5 million roster bonus due in June), 2011-2013: $5.1 million, 2014: Free Agent

we just might let him go an save about 7 mil

 

[Eskimo]

I forgot one thing. I would keep Flozell.

I don't mind keeping Flo for one more year if he is the starter. However, I would then leave it as an open competition between Colombo and Free for the RT spot. I would prefer Free take the slot so he can have another year of experience before he transitions into the LT role. Colombo can be the backup RT and Free would move over to LT if Flo got injured.

 

[casmith07]

I feel like Flozell called it quits that day too. Gurode went down earlier in the season and came back in with a banged up knee.

And after seeing DeMarcus Ware carted off only to return and play like a beast the next week, I would've tried my best to get back into the game, or at least participated. He just sat on the bench with that look on his face after the penalty in the Giants game. Disinterested.

 

[NeonNinja]

I hate when people say these things.

You have NOTHING to base your judgement that Brewster is JAG. You're saying that simply because he was a mid-round pick you haven't heard of.

He might not develop into anything, but he might be our starter a year or two down the road. Just because he wasn't a big name doesn't mean anything.

Agree.

 

[Silverstar]

A guy we just might pick at #27 is LT Charles Brown 6-5 303. I'm pretty confident he can add another 10 pounds to his frame and it's funny, cuz the more weight Brown gains the higher he projects. If he was like 315-320....scouts would be all over him right now IMO. A lot of scouts will be on hand to see Brown again at USC on Mar 31st. Another guy I like in is G Marshall Newhouse 6-4 320 from TCU. Both of these guys have long arms, quick feet and can get to the 2nd level in the running game.

T Veldheer and T Saffold move well also, but their 33" arms could hurt them. Saffold could play guard, but needs to get much stronger. T Ducasse is sort of in the middle to me...stronger but also moves slower and draftniks say he wears down late. He'll make a much better guard than tackle in the NFL.

Now Iupati IS the best guard, but do we need a guard bad enough to take at #27?

Is Kosier that bad?

Personally, I don't think it's enough to warrant a 1st round pick. I mean, How much better IS Iupati from Ducasse, Newhouse and Asamoah?

Is he 32 picks better...64 picks better?

I think not!


As far as Iupati playing LT....SPARE ME!

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Ive kind of ignored Charles Brown when doing my homework. I just dont think hes our kind of guy. Even though our line appears to break down and we could use better athletes on the line.

 

[Zaxor]

I think Flo should be gone...He is done...He lost his legs and that is that... it isn't going to get better only worse...Right now at best he is a 2 game starter and than he has to have at least 3 off to rest...

 

[JPM]

I hate when people say these things.

You have NOTHING to base your judgement that Brewster is JAG. You're saying that simply because he was a mid-round pick you haven't heard of.

He might not develop into anything, but he might be our starter a year or two down the road. Just because he wasn't a big name doesn't mean anything.

Nail...
Head....
SLAM !

 

[burmafrd]

Well since our O line coaches FINALLY have shown an ability to develope a tackle (first one since the Hotel showed up) we can maybe think that developing another can happen. Unfortunately Brewster is still a complete question mark since he was unable to get to camp or practice at all due to that pec injury. So there is no way anyone can say with any confidence what he will be. Kosier is signed through this year and probably could be kept for a reasonable deal which is not a bad thing. He would make a very good back up. Lots better then the proctologist. I want to see Dallas pick a Tackle and hopefully a G/C combo guy. We need to develope some inside guys as well.

I hate the thought of changing more then one position on the O line per year. BUT if you are going to do it - LT and LG or RT and RT are the way to go. You can still have good line play with 3/5 of the line going down one side remaining the same.

 

[Nightshade]

Adams...Kosier...Gurode...Davis...Columbo

If you stop and look at the starting 5 you have to ask yourself a couple of questions.

1. In what order would he have to replace each guy?

This is just my opinion, but the answer to question 1 would be Adams & Kosier are about equal. Columbo would be next. Followed by Gurode and lastly Davis.

If you have Flo and Kosier about equal on need to replace but have Free already in place to replace Flo then OG makes more sense than OT.

I think it is far more likely we'd see them starting 4 of the same faces and 1 new one. Not sure at this time if Kosier or Flo are the odd man out. I would love to keep Kosier as the top OG backup over Holland and even over Bright if they really do have enough faith in him to promote him from the PS.

I know you feel Adams is at the end of his career and that's why he's at the top of your need to replace list. But why Kosier? He's only 32. I know you still want to keep him as a backup but why do you feel it's so urgent to replace him as a starter? Is it his strength or his effectiveness in the running game?

 

[CF74]

A guy we just might pick at #27 is LT Charles Brown 6-5 303. I'm pretty confident he can add another 10 pounds to his frame and it's funny, cuz the more weight Brown gains the higher he projects. If he was like 315-320....scouts would be all over him right now IMO. A lot of scouts will be on hand to see Brown again at USC on Mar 31st. Another guy I like in is G Marshall Newhouse 6-4 320 from TCU. Both of these guys have long arms, quick feet and can get to the 2nd level in the running game.

T Veldheer and T Saffold move well also, but their 33" arms could hurt them. Saffold could play guard, but needs to get much stronger. T Ducasse is sort of in the middle to me...stronger but also moves slower and draftniks say he wears down late. He'll make a much better guard than tackle in the NFL.

Now Iupati IS the best guard, but do we need a guard bad enough to take at #27?

Is Kosier that bad?

Personally, I don't think it's enough to warrant a 1st round pick. I mean, How much better IS Iupati from Ducasse, Newhouse and Asamoah?

Is he 32 picks better...64 picks better?

I think not!


As far as Iupati playing LT....SPARE ME!

Have you seen any of these rooks play in college? Newhouse interests me..

 

[Silverstar]

Have you seen any of these rooks play in college? Newhouse interests me..

I saw the TCU/BSU game (DVR'D it) and Newhouse looked good to me, although I wasn't keying on him the whole game. I've already deleted the game cuz TCU freakin lost. The others I've seen through the Senior Bowl, Shrine game and Youtube highlights and such like this one of Brown...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AheRQNNgK64

 

[casmith07]

whats he going do retire - he is signed by Dallas until like forever

I never understood that contract sign a 32 year old line man to six year deal

Jerry buddy get smarter with your money

2/28/2008: Signed a six-year, $43.8 million contract. The deal contains $15 million guaranteed, including a $13 million signing bonus. 2010: $5 million (+ $2.5 million roster bonus due in June), 2011-2013: $5.1 million, 2014: Free Agent

we just might let him go an save about 7 mil

The reason why is because of the years prior. You risk losing your best asset at Left Tackle, so you sign him long term. That gives you time to search for a replacement, groom a backup, etc, without having a gap at left tackle like the Browns, Lions, and Raiders of the world. It's true you might release them before the end of the contract's terms, or possibly restructure, but all of those considerations are taken into account when drafting a contract's terms in the first place.

Come on...

 

[gmoney112]

My preference is we draft Iupati and an OT prospect who can be groomed. I'd like to move on from McQuistan, Holland, and Preston with Iupati, an OT prospect and Bright.

That's exactly what we'll do. If it's not Iupati in the first and ET is available, I could see us going safety. Wade knows his DB's and Thomas is versatile. If neither are there at the 27th pick I think we trade down and will pick up the BPA at guard/tackle with one of our 2nd round picks. A later round pick will be a lineman at guard/tackle that we did not choose in the 2nd. We will come out of this draft with a tackle and a guard. I think that's pretty much a given unless some crazy things fall in our laps.