CFZ Observing 'our' Dallas Cowboys

CCBoy

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Believe me there's nobody on this forum who doubts your fandom. A little lost at times, but a fan.
Me?
Apparently I haven't been a fan since '64
Take your pom poms and run along.
Take seats? Know where that comes from?

Know how to explain how this keeps going straight?


A black-and-white photo of what appears to be a cool, gray day. Four people, indistinct, sit in the middle of a long, thin boat, the gondola, moving to the right. High on the stern (left) stands a man with both hands on a long oar, which disappears into the water to his rear and slightly to his right. In the distant background, across the calm water, the buildings of Venice can be made out, standing in the mist.

A lot of things you don't know, to include walking past insult...you have to earn respect as well.

The above included ironies...
 

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What you're doing is setting up the upcoming seasons Dak excuses when he's laying those eggs again.
Bud let me clue you in on what Dak is about if you haven't already realized it.
You could have the Wall of China and he would still fail cause the talent mentally and physically isn't there and never will be part of his professional makeup.
Now write longer posts maybe Todd France will take notice and give you a job!!!
Dak lives in your head rent free. if every second of every day all you do is think Dak and all you ever post about is Dak, you are obsessed.

its starting to be worrisome. you need to seek some help. seriously. this is not good for any one.
 

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Stats are useful as to seeing directions as well as seeing weaknesses already discovered with the same tools used by other teams. Weaknesses need real and adjustable directions to change.

Failures that don't but fall in a short ranged window and can be solved in a single or even simple actions are relative in a view. Those should not be ignored.
That part is either team building or team improving. One of the most important parts is ability to judge talent on and that can be added to a team. At present, that quality is every inch as good as it was Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones started the path to a Dynasty. Once a dynasty is derailed, returning to that is very tough to return to that status. Today's NFL is that tough to overcome.

Once there is talent, then the design of a plan of attack for both sides of the ball, becomes the directional element that carries a team into confrontations/games. That then becomes a matter of adjustments and in game plans to derail an opponent. That requires experience and accumulated successes on both the coaching levels as well as in the team roster. Success has to grow...and that is a fact. During the Dynasty as well as now.

Insulting the team has no real and excusable place in this picture right now...another fact.

The role of a fan is to help the team in it's own motivation for their own sacrificing, injuries, and sweat equity in giving back to those fans. It's not time to bring out a Hero Worship rather than just judging what is currently on the team's plate. Not even being able to identify progression points and identifying true team needs as they are in fact being developed through those points of progress. At least give honesty a chance here.

Good in a team still has a progression to it. The Dallas Cowboys have that right here and now.

Instead of seeing where his team is today, using past glory stereotypes to beat the head of a simple fan is a poor excuse for a fan. If one wishes to truly own glory of the team's...buy one then.

Otherwise be a valid fan and share the experience of being a fan.

A fan should both love the sport as it is played, as well as back his team through thick and thin.

Too many assume non-authorized enforcement directed at insult of fans. If a fan is incorrect, then discuss on facts, not on insulted stereotype outside of a reasonable discussion. Not everyone has depth of historical knowledge. Help to educate, not with a brow beating attitude. Then, YOU, aren't a fan, but a self appointed hindrance to new fans and real knowledge.

This team has a very good staff of coaches. It has a great scouting department for both the draft and possible free agents. There is great communications, as well as time spent in discussion about both, the team and opponents. Knowledge of both are at a very high level now.

Cap management is a very important piece of a team's stability and growth.

Stephen and the managing elements have invested in top shelf statistical staff as well kept the team view fully up front. That is about to pay great dividends on both on field leadership as well as top talent in the NFL. This includes the most team changing positions...offensive tackle, defensive end, cornerback, receiver, and quarterback.

All of these have been evaluated as top shelf and and everyone will cost at NFL high levels. That's the cost of the NFL today. But also good management by the Cowboys.

Thanks to you both, Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones...you have done us fans good, here and now.

That same Jerry Jones has always been loyal to his players. He has given them protections of their needs and also gave them opportunity to earn their own place and achieve in a very unstable environment. Football isn't easy, but it is rewarding for a fan.

Leave sentiments on that level...of being a fan.

Truly appreciate all the processes that are actually necessary in today's environment. The Cowboys are doing needed tasks as well as have earned fan respect as well...who at least keep up with their with more than just a bad attitude and share shame.

At least be a true fan, not blind, but help their motivations. Be a real fan! :starspin:
Help their motivations? How are we supposed to do that?
 

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Help their motivations? How are we supposed to do that?
Showing them full support honestly and enjoying the off season as real opportunity and a motivational tool. Once again, making a Cowboy stadium a team advantage and support the team. There is an exhibition season and hype their opportunities.

Return to a home town advantage and show it.
 

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We hold the record for the most losses in a divisional playoffs with 7. No other team has done that. I am hoping that we can somehow get out of the Divisional Round.
What are all of the odds involved in the history of Cowboys...even compare games in the playoffs under the entire ownership of Jerry Jones. See where the numbers actually lay, on games in the playoffs...first.
 

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What are all of the odds involved in the history of Cowboys...even compare games in the playoffs under the entire ownership of Jerry Jones. See where the numbers actually lay, on games in the playoffs...first.
That seems too discouraging. I am trying to be optimistic.
 

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Showing them full support honestly and enjoying the off season as real opportunity and a motivational tool. Once again, making a Cowboy stadium a team advantage and support the team. There is an exhibition season and hype their opportunities.

Return to a home town advantage and show it.
Smoken the good stuff these days eh? Its just as important to show Jerry our disapproval for his screwups and the things we wont stand for. Put pressure on him and the franchise to do things the right way.
 

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That seems too discouraging. I am trying to be optimistic.
No, you are being lead to a real picture and process path.

Gossip is fly by night and all aren't vanishing returns. Cowboys comparisons for playing in a playoff appearance is actually reasonably strong with all the changes in the NFL occuring since 1995. Actually do some stat diving...if too lazy to look for yourself, ask me to do the work for you. I'm not a lazy fan...and will educate you on a variety of levels beyond doom and gloom strutting.
 

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Stats are useful as to seeing directions as well as seeing weaknesses already discovered with the same tools used by other teams. Weaknesses need real and adjustable directions to change.

Failures that don't but fall in a short ranged window and can be solved in a single or even simple actions are relative in a view. Those should not be ignored.
That part is either team building or team improving. One of the most important parts is ability to judge talent on and that can be added to a team. At present, that quality is every inch as good as it was Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones started the path to a Dynasty. Once a dynasty is derailed, returning to that is very tough to return to that status. Today's NFL is that tough to overcome.

Once there is talent, then the design of a plan of attack for both sides of the ball, becomes the directional element that carries a team into confrontations/games. That then becomes a matter of adjustments and in game plans to derail an opponent. That requires experience and accumulated successes on both the coaching levels as well as in the team roster. Success has to grow...and that is a fact. During the Dynasty as well as now.

Insulting the team has no real and excusable place in this picture right now...another fact.

The role of a fan is to help the team in it's own motivation for their own sacrificing, injuries, and sweat equity in giving back to those fans. It's not time to bring out a Hero Worship rather than just judging what is currently on the team's plate. Not even being able to identify progression points and identifying true team needs as they are in fact being developed through those points of progress. At least give honesty a chance here.

Good in a team still has a progression to it. The Dallas Cowboys have that right here and now.

Instead of seeing where his team is today, using past glory stereotypes to beat the head of a simple fan is a poor excuse for a fan. If one wishes to truly own glory of the team's...buy one then.

Otherwise be a valid fan and share the experience of being a fan.

A fan should both love the sport as it is played, as well as back his team through thick and thin.

Too many assume non-authorized enforcement directed at insult of fans. If a fan is incorrect, then discuss on facts, not on insulted stereotype outside of a reasonable discussion. Not everyone has depth of historical knowledge. Help to educate, not with a brow beating attitude. Then, YOU, aren't a fan, but a self appointed hindrance to new fans and real knowledge.

This team has a very good staff of coaches. It has a great scouting department for both the draft and possible free agents. There is great communications, as well as time spent in discussion about both, the team and opponents. Knowledge of both are at a very high level now.

Cap management is a very important piece of a team's stability and growth.

Stephen and the managing elements have invested in top shelf statistical staff as well kept the team view fully up front. That is about to pay great dividends on both on field leadership as well as top talent in the NFL. This includes the most team changing positions...offensive tackle, defensive end, cornerback, receiver, and quarterback.

All of these have been evaluated as top shelf and and everyone will cost at NFL high levels. That's the cost of the NFL today. But also good management by the Cowboys.

Thanks to you both, Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones...you have done us fans good, here and now.

That same Jerry Jones has always been loyal to his players. He has given them protections of their needs and also gave them opportunity to earn their own place and achieve in a very unstable environment. Football isn't easy, but it is rewarding for a fan.

Leave sentiments on that level...of being a fan.

Truly appreciate all the processes that are actually necessary in today's environment. The Cowboys are doing needed tasks as well as have earned fan respect as well...who at least keep up with their with more than just a bad attitude and share shame.

At least be a true fan, not blind, but help their motivations. Be a real fan! :starspin:
I always appreciate you, CC.
You're one of the good ones.
 

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Live in a world of doubt...that's your choice.

I don't reside there but keep faith in men on my chosen team. All of them. He is pretty darn good and for the team he is currently the leader for Dallas.

Now disprove the above...without just returning to an excuse with stereotype.
I don't dislike your OP. As an observer/student of the game, I just try to be objective.

I hold a slightly different opinion of the talent level of this team vs. that of the Aikman/Johnson era than you do. I can hold this opinion without bashing any current player, and while still supporting and being a fan of the current team.

I'll choose objectivity over faith.
 

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I don't dislike your OP. As an observer/student of the game, I just try to be objective.

I hold a slightly different opinion of the talent level of this team vs. that of the Aikman/Johnson era than you do. I can hold this opinion without bashing any current player, and while still supporting and being a fan of the current team.

I'll choose objectivity over faith.
Time is a sequence of events...you are choosing the point to watch. Being a fan also.
 

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Smoken the good stuff these days eh? Its just as important to show Jerry our disapproval for his screwups and the things we wont stand for. Put pressure on him and the franchise to do things the right way.
That has been done for a very long time but the Cowboys evolved anyway and are good now. Me, I'm choosing to just be an informed fan and know when and how that evolves.

We have a good friend who stays on medicinal herbs. My wife and I just don't. When the lab was used in service and tested regularly, there was not choice then.

An enlisted was given an Article 15...while an NCO was just Chaptered out of service. If on the Alcohol Rehab and one was caught drinking one sip, he was Chaptered out as well. Sometimes E-7's were just removed.
 

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I don't dislike your OP. As an observer/student of the game, I just try to be objective.

I hold a slightly different opinion of the talent level of this team vs. that of the Aikman/Johnson era than you do. I can hold this opinion without bashing any current player, and while still supporting and being a fan of the current team.

I'll choose objectivity over faith.
To be fair, under the CAP Era this is one of the most all-round roster's we've had. Now a near elite Defenses (now with a CB2 and 3 and potential to stop the run), we've also go a balanced receiving corp and a running game that gives alot more variety (now we dont have the predictable Zeke up the middle on 1st down up the middle). We'll also see whether the last few years we were restricted by Moore's offensive scheme (and played a system that suited him not Dak and the offense).
I suppose there's a lot to be optimistic about, but yes the proof will be in results....after all certain sections of the fanbase have been lauding two 12 win seasons (with a top offense), which somewhat clouds where the real issues were.
 

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That has been done for a very long time but the Cowboys evolved anyway and are good now. Me, I'm choosing to just be an informed fan and know when and how that evolves.

We have a good friend who stays on medicinal herbs. My wife and I just don't. When the lab was used in service and tested regularly, there was not choice then.

An enlisted was given an Article 15...while an NCO was just Chaptered out of service. If on the Alcohol Rehab and one was caught drinking one sip, he was Chaptered out as well. Sometimes E-7's were just removed.
So Jerry is all good now?
 

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To be fair, under the CAP Era this is one of the most all-round roster's we've had. Now a near elite Defenses (now with a CB2 and 3 and potential to stop the run), we've also go a balanced receiving corp and a running game that gives alot more variety (now we dont have the predictable Zeke up the middle on 1st down up the middle). We'll also see whether the last few years we were restricted by Moore's offensive scheme (and played a system that suited him not Dak and the offense).
I suppose there's a lot to be optimistic about, but yes the proof will be in results....after all certain sections of the fanbase have been lauding two 12 win seasons (with a top offense), which somewhat clouds where the real issues were.
Good post, but not completely fair to Moore. The Dallas offense has moved on and combined two styles that can be done together. Different conditions now, to be fair.
 

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Let me know when in comes out in English please.
That would not help that comment in a multiple of languages to team meetings one was some how allowed into to listen. How long did you play?

I know...try more Ranch Dressing on your dish. :popcorn: Can you even cook?
 
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