Odighizuwa coming in for visit

[unionjack8]

owa odighizuwa coming in for visit tomorrow per ian rapoport

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Interesting. This is what BP was telling me earlier. With Hardy signed, I actually think this makes a lot more sense then before.

 

[xwalker]

Interesting. This is what BP was telling me earlier. With Hardy signed, I actually think this makes a lot more sense then before.

Why does it make more sense now? Just curious what you mean.

 

[xwalker]

owa odighizuwa coming in for visit tomorrow per ian rapoport

If the Cowboys are OK with his medical, I would list him as one of the top probabilities at #27.

 

[DFWJC]

Why does it make more sense now? Just curious what you mean.

Don't want to speak for him, but I assume he means it buys OO time to develop.

 

[tm1119]

Gotta at least bring him in, the possibility of him being BPA is strong. Our doctors get to give him a thorough check when he comes for a visit right?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Why does it make more sense now? Just curious what you mean.

We have Hardy who is a solid Pass Rusher. I think your #1 pick has to be able to contribute and start at some point in the 1st year. 2nd year at the latest. I didn't think that OO could be that 1st year pass rusher that I felt like we needed at the time. Now that we have Hardy as the pass rusher, I think the gamble to develop OO as a pass rusher is acceptable. I do think that at worst, he can be a Strong Side DE and play the run very well. If it works out and you can have an OO as a Weakside Pass Rusher and move Hardy to the Strong Side, the possibilities are very encouraging. Of course, this would mean that we would have to resign Hardy but I think that we will do that unless I am totally wrong about that guy.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

When they are doing the medical exam do you think they will play Hips Don't lie in the background?

 

[hendog]

I'm all for bringing him in. We need pass rushers! Period. Scheme was not his friend at UCLA.

 

[Va_BoysFan4 Life]

We have Hardy who is a solid Pass Rusher. I think your #1 pick has to be able to contribute and start at some point in the 1st year. 2nd year at the latest. I didn't think that OO could be that 1st year pass rusher that I felt like we needed at the time. Now that we have Hardy as the pass rusher, I think the gamble to develop OO as a pass rusher is acceptable. I do think that at worst, he can be a Strong Side DE and play the run very well. If it works out and you can have an OO as a Weakside Pass Rusher and move Hardy to the Strong Side, the possibilities are very encouraging. Of course, this would mean that we would have to resign Hardy but I think that we will do that unless I am totally wrong about that guy.

ABQ I am in agreement with you with taking OO in the first, but differ in the reason. From what I have read and seen on film OO is a better fit at the strong side DE. My thing is we do not know what is going to happen with Hardy after this year ( I hope we can retain him). in the event we do not, I see DLaw going to the weak side and I can see OO handling the strong. It has been discussed that he is excellent against the run. Just my thoughts.

 

[CowboysLaw87]

This is probably my #1 realistic option for 27. With Hardy looking at a lengthier suspension than we were hoping for (and it only being a 1-year deal), the need for a starting LDE is very much intact. O'Diggy is more than worthy of that pick IMO. His strength, leverage, motor & athletic upside will make him a very good LDE, despite the unlikelihood that he'll develop into a 12+ sack type of guy.

We're checking off all the boxes on this guy. Positional value, team need, quality of the player, character, etc. Seems to all be there, with the only wildcard being the hips. Hasn't missed a game since 2013 however, and looks like this is now a non-issue.

 

[CowboysLaw87]

ABQ I am in agreement with you with taking OO in the first, but differ in the reason. From what I have read and seen on film OO is a better fit at the strong side DE. My thing is we do not know what is going to happen with Hardy after this year ( I hope we can retain him). in the event we do not, I see DLaw going to the weak side and I can see OO handling the strong. It has been discussed that he is excellent against the run. Just my thoughts.

He is excellent against the run, and the reasoning for it is leverage. I was watching that USC film the other day and it's amazing how low O'Diggy gets. This allows him to capture strength advantage against bigger opponents. He's darn near the complete package. His inability to "run the arch" (i.e., bend the edge and finish on some sacks) limits his sack potential, but this guy will be a 8-10 sack and very good against the run starting LDE.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Seems like a nice enough guy but worry a lot about those really bad hips, he is very raw and a little stiff for an elite pass rusher.

No @27.

Gimme' Teammate Eric Kendricks over OO.

JMhumbleOO

 

[xwalker]

We have Hardy who is a solid Pass Rusher. I think your #1 pick has to be able to contribute and start at some point in the 1st year. 2nd year at the latest. I didn't think that OO could be that 1st year pass rusher that I felt like we needed at the time. Now that we have Hardy as the pass rusher, I think the gamble to develop OO as a pass rusher is acceptable. I do think that at worst, he can be a Strong Side DE and play the run very well. If it works out and you can have an OO as a Weakside Pass Rusher and move Hardy to the Strong Side, the possibilities are very encouraging. Of course, this would mean that we would have to resign Hardy but I think that we will do that unless I am totally wrong about that guy.

Ok, thanks.

I like the old saying that you can never have enough of them in regards to some positions like pass rusher.

I think OO can play either side and I think Lawrence can play either side. The scheme really held OO back in college.

The hip issue is an unknown to me. I can't specifically remember any players with hip problems for any kind of reference. I assume it's not the Bo Jackson type of injury but more of a ligament type issue.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

ABQ I am in agreement with you with taking OO in the first, but differ in the reason. From what I have read and seen on film OO is a better fit at the strong side DE. My thing is we do not know what is going to happen with Hardy after this year ( I hope we can retain him). in the event we do not, I see DLaw going to the weak side and I can see OO handling the strong. It has been discussed that he is excellent against the run. Just my thoughts.

There really is no reason, IMO, that he should not be able to be a pass rush DE. He has all the physical tools but he's really raw in his pass rush technique. A lot of that is probably scheme but ideally, you want a #1 pick to be a pass rusher. You can get Strong Side DEs later in the draft and some pretty good ones IMO. Having said this, I really think that he's worth the gamble now.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Ok, thanks.

I like the old saying that you can never have enough of them in regards to some positions like pass rusher.

I think OO can play either side and I think Lawrence can play either side. The scheme really held OO back in college.

The hip issue is an unknown to me. I can't specifically remember any players with hip problems for any kind of reference. I assume it's not the Bo Jackson type of injury but more of a ligament type issue.

Yeah, I see all kinds of potential if he could learn to be a pass rusher. With Lawrence coming along, Hardy, all of the young DT talent, I really like our chances of developing a nice DL. I have concerns about the hip as well but I figure the Cowboys staff will know if it's worth the pick before we ever decided to do it.

 

[Va_BoysFan4 Life]

There really is no reason, IMO, that he should not be able to be a pass rush DE. He has all the physical tools but he's really raw in his pass rush technique. A lot of that is probably scheme but ideally, you want a #1 pick to be a pass rusher. You can get Strong Side DEs later in the draft and some pretty good ones IMO. Having said this, I really think that he's worth the gamble now.

No I am not saying he would not be a pass rushing DE on the strong side. That works in his favor IMO. So you want to move DLaw to the stron side? But having him and DLaw as book ends for yrs to come is the way we want to go.

 

[reddyuta]

I think he wont be BPA at 27,i will ok with him if we trade out of RD1.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

No I am not saying he would not be a pass rushing DE on the strong side. That works in his favor IMO. So you want to move DLaw to the stron side? But having him and DLaw as book ends for yrs to come is the way we want to go.

No, I see DLaw and OO (if he develops as a pass rusher) as the rotation on the weakside. I see Hardy and one of the other young Strongside DEs as the rotation on the right.

Lots of advantages to this IMO. On third down, I see Hardy, DLaw and OO all in the game as a pass rush unit. OO would also provide an option if (and I don't expect this to be the case) we were not able to to resign Hardy. Lets say we sign hardy to a 5 year deal with three years guaranteed. OO, with DLaw would allow you to get out of the contract if it were not financially feasible after 3 years and have a nice set of DE's who are hitting their respective primes. I just see a lot of upside to a move like that.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

I could easily see this guy rotating with Crawford at 3-tech. Very similar players, in my view.