Of Crystal Balls and Tea Leaves Part II

casmith07

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I'll say it again, ya'll need to put the drafting for dummies book down. It's not about taking a certain position at a certain point in the draft. That is a terribly stupid philosophy to have in drafting. What matters is what that particular player will do for your particular team. It might be a waste of a #4 pick for other teams, but what Zeke will do for the Cowboys is another story all together. Pairing him with that line is going to make Romo play his football. You need only look at Romo in 2014 to understand why. And please don't come at me with the we got Murray in the 3rd. There were reasons why he fell, none of which had to do with ability, and furthermore, Murray is not available in this draft.

Murray fell because of injury concerns, I believe. Which until his contract year was true. Missed a lot of time or just always had some sort of nagging injury.
 

thisiscowboyscountry

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Back on April 5th I started making predictions. If you missed it, here's a quick catch up:

1. If the Cowboys draft Zeke they will go to the Playoffs but will fall short due to holes on their defense; if they draft defense, they will be picking in the top 10 in 2017.
2. If the Cowboys draft Zeke, they will assign him #22.

Now time for 1 more prediction:

When Jerry announces at a press conference they are giving Zeke #22, he will state something to the effect of:

"When you put 88 with 22 you are going to get 110 percent!"

Discuss.

No one should ever wear 22 again for this franchise. Emmitt is a once in a lifetime player and no one deserves to be issued that number for the Cowboys again. 88 is a bit different based on its history and how its been passed on already. Frankly, I dont think Elliot is the right pick for this team anyway as defense is a far greater need and there are many rb options later in the draft. If the Cowboys miss the playoffs it wont be because they passed on Elliot.
 

KJJ

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Its Bosa, then a DT in round 2. More defense and then QB in round 4.

His suspension for pot at the start of the 2015 college season is likely to scare the Cowboys off but they're so desperate for a pass rusher they may take the gamble and draft him anyway.
 

Manster68

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Drafting a rb at 4 would be the dumbest thing we could do. Total waste. So it will prob happen. If Tony stays healthy we make the playoffs with or without zeke. If he doesn't then zeke will have no effect on the wins and losses. Total waste of a pick.

Disagree - If Dallas gets Elliott, Dallas legitimately competes for the #1 seed in the NFC.
 

Cowboy4ever

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Disagree - If Dallas gets Elliott, Dallas legitimately competes for the #1 seed in the NFC.

So if Romo and Dez both go down for the season in week 2 again zeke is going to carry the team to the number one seed? That's laughable. With a healthy Romo and Dez any back will be more than good enough to get the job done. Picking a rb at 4 would be a waste.
 

Manster68

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So if Romo and Dez both go down for the season in week 2 again zeke is going to carry the team to the number one seed? That's laughable. With a healthy Romo and Dez any back will be more than good enough to get the job done. Picking a rb at 4 would be a waste.

If you take the #1 QB and receiver away from any team - that team is going to be screwed. You cannot assume that is going to happen every year. Last year was an aberration. Can McFadden and Morris hold their own with Romo and Dez healthy? I think they would be be fine. I just believe Elliott really tips the scale - I think he is a special player. I would hate to pass him up.

I don't care what position is being referred to - if the scouts and the coaching staff feel a player is "Special" meaning HOF caliber, then take him. If they think Ramsey is going to be the next Ed Reed, then by all means take him. Apparently the Rams and Eagles feel those QBs are HOF caliber because they have paid a hefty price to move up.

Hey, I am all for trading down with say, SF at 7 and grabbing Elliott there (and steal an extra pick or two along the way). If they trade down any further, it would be highly likely Elliott is gone. I posted my wacky dream draft over on the draft board. There I have Dallas trading down twice - once with Cleveland at 8 and then Tennessee at 15 and picked up a boatload of 2nd and 3rd round picks.

The biggest fear in any draft is when your team passes up a player who turns out to be a superstar (or even better than expected). The best example of that is 1998 when Dallas passed up Randy Moss.

So the question becomes to each of us fans: What do you want? Do you want to stay at #4 and roll the dice that this one player becomes an Ed Reed or an Adrian Peterson (or even a Michael Strahan if they decide to go Bosa)?
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Would you like to trade down a couple of times and pick up extra picks in the 2nd & 3rd rounds and build the team with players less likely to be superstars? Finding guys like Brady in the 6th round, Sherman in the 5th round, Leon Lett in the 6th round, or even a Jay Ratliff in the 7th round (who went to a few Pro Bowls) does not happen every draft. It is very rare.

I do not want the Cowboys to use that #4 pick and have him become just a guy. They already have a #6 overall that is just a guy in Claiborne.
If Dallas uses the #4 overall pick - HE BETTER BE A SUPERSTAR!
 

LittleD

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Time to move on. Create your own and new identity with new players and new numbers. It's good to reflect on the past but not wise to try and re-live it.

We've been moving on for over 20 years in not a good way. Time for a little moving back to the future. I'll take some more #22 and #88 with a healthy dose of
#9.
 

jday

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Wow. Look at the time. Have the cowboys picked yet? Was it Zeke? I didn't see the pick go in. Did anyone see it? Hello? Is anybody out there?
 
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