Off Season Debate Question : Witten Or Gronkowski

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Is this the young Jason or the one now?

 

[Tangle_Foot]

I will just say this, I am intrigued with the possibility of a roster consisting of Zeke, Gronk, Dez, Beas and the Body Catcher. I think they would prove to be a problem for most defenses. This of course can be limited by Linehan brain farts, this staff has proven that they could not maximize the talent they had so our preference " if Gronk " could easily be wasted.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Career games played:

Gronk - 102

JWit - 239

Gronk - 76 TDs

Witten - 68 TDs

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I think the claim that Gronk chronically misses time due to injury is a bit too overstated.

In eight seasons he's played in 102 of the possible 128 regular season games possible. Two of those seasons (2013 and 2016) accounted for most of the missed games (17 total). Outside of those two seasons he's played in 90% of available games. Even that number is slightly inaccurate as Gronk was suspended for one game last year.

Irregardless, it's all about the impact you have when you're on the field.

Gronk's averages:
70 yards per game
4.64 rec. per game
15.1 yards per catch (!!!)
0.74 TDs/per game (!!!)

Witten's numbers:
52 yards per game
4.82 rec. per game
10.8 yards per catch
0.28 TDs/per game

 

[Darthkuriboh]

Gronk................ I cant believe this is actually a serious question

When was the last time Witten went up over some dude 25 yards down the field and hauled in a one hander for a TD?

I love Witten, but father time has taken its toll...............these 5 yard routes are just laughable at this point.

When was the last time Gronk played a full season?

 

[Gameover]

Career games played:

Gronk - 102

JWit - 239

Thank you

Only a few TD apart. Give Witt a 100 more games! He’ll eventually catch him!

 

[Darthkuriboh]

Thank you

Only a few TD apart. Give Witt a 100 more games! He’ll eventually catch him!

Gronk is an amazing tight end. nobody is saying otherwise.. however, he can't stay healthy. I'd rather have a healthy Witten

 

[Gameover]

I think the claim that Gronk chronically misses time due to injury is a bit too overstated.

In eight seasons he's played in 102 of the possible 128 regular season games possible. Two of those seasons (2013 and 2016) accounted for most of the missed games (17 total). Outside of those two seasons he's played in 90% of available games. Even that number is slightly inaccurate as Gronk was suspended for one game last year.

Irregardless, it's all about the impact you have when you're on the field.

Gronk's averages:
70 yards per game
4.64 rec. per game
15.1 yards per catch (!!!)
0.74 TDs/per game (!!!)

Witten's numbers:
52 yards per game
4.82 rec. per game
10.8 yards per catch
0.28 TDs/per game

Gronk - 76 TDs

Witten - 68 TDs

Use Witten’s best six or seven seasons.

 

[Gameover]

Gronk - 76 TDs

Witten - 68 TDs

And Witten only played with the most prolific QB in Cowboys history!

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Use Witten’s best six or seven seasons.

Not following? That only skews the numbers.

Why don't we throw out Gronk's "worst" two or three seasons, lol.

FWIW, Witten's best overall season was 2007:
96 rec.
1,145 yards
7 TDs
11.9 YPC

Gronk's 2011:
90 rec.
1,327
17 TDs
14.7 YPC

 

[Darthkuriboh]

And Witten only played with the most prolific QB in Cowboys history!

Who was able to make Laurent Robinson look like a #1 receiver, Dez Bryant look like an all pro, and TO look like he was still great when he was past his prime (as evidenced by his time in cinci). Witten wasn't Tony's primary target. When he's healthy, Gronk is Brady's primary target because he's the 2nd best player on the offense.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Who was able to make Laurent Robinson look like a #1 receiver, Dez Bryant look like an all pro, and TO look like he was still great when he was past his prime (as evidenced by his time in cinci). Witten wasn't Tony's primary target. When he's healthy, Gronk is Brady's primary target because he's the 2nd best player on the offense.

Lol, Witten wasn't Romo's primary target? If Witten wasn't the "primary" target, then he was inarguably 1b.

Have we forgotten that TO caused a locker room rift claiming Romo was targeting Witten too much?

 

[Darthkuriboh]

Lol, Witten wasn't Romo's primary target? If Witten wasn't the "primary" target, then he was inarguably 1b.

2 would be it. He was targeted frequently, but usually for short first down gains. When the team desperately needed a reliable set of hands. Tony typically went to his receivers as often as he could

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

2 would be it. He was targeted frequently, but usually for short first down gains. When the team desperately needed a reliable set of hands. Tony typically went to his receivers as often as he could

That's incorrect.

From 2006-2015, Witten either led (or tied for team lead) in receiving targets 6 out of those 9 seasons under Romo.

 

[Darthkuriboh]

That's incorrect.

From 2006-2015, Witten either led (or tied for team lead) in receiving targets 6 out of those 9 seasons under Romo.

citation

 

[Darthkuriboh]

That's incorrect.

From 2006-2015, Witten either led (or tied for team lead) in receiving targets 6 out of those 9 seasons under Romo.

4 seasons in 11 years Witten lead in targets. One he was tied with Miles Austin.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

citation

Pro-football-reference.com (you'll have to go through each season)

Now, provide your citation to back your claim or are you treating your memory as a reference?

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

4 seasons in 11 years Witten lead in targets. One he was tied with Miles Austin.

You're either sincerely mistaken or flatly lying.

The numbers are there. This isn't up for debate or interpretation.

 

[Darthkuriboh]

You're either sincerely mistaken or flatly lying.

The numbers are there. This isn't up for debate.

I'm actually quoting the information found on espn.com. You're either an idiot or a moron. Either way, insult me again and you go on ignore.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I'm actually quoting the information found on espn.com. You're either an idiot or a moron. Either way, insult me again and you go on ignore.

Lool, and what seasons are you attempting to use?

Didn't think you'd get called to the carpet on your little claim did you?