Offense has to become more successful against shell coverage!

[big dog cowboy]

In Dak Prescotts entire tenure we have been told that a new offense is coming. And every year they roll out the same offense with a new label on it.

So you think Schotty was lying?

 

[Johannes44]

So you think Schotty was lying?

I think all these coaches all well meaning until faced with the reality of exactly what Mr. Prescott is capable of doing.

 

[jterrell]

Fans do not have to be ignorant of all things football.
They just don't.

The Cowboys don't struggle with base cover 2.

They do struggle when their OL can't block 3-4 rushers and when the 2 deep rolls to double CeeDee.

Dallas simply didn't have other weapons on offense. No RB, no 2nd WR of note. TE was injured.

bbbbut Dak.... Stop sounding like a complete clown. Dak has missed plenty of games which has meant we have seen plenty of OTHER QBS in this offense the last 3 years.
And the offense was significantly worse each time.
Dak may not be the answer but he sure as heck was also not the problem. 1 day you goofies will wipe the drool of your mouths and figure that out.

 

[Chasing6]

Ever since that home loss to Fangio and the Denver Broncos a few seasons ago, teams have had success following the same blueprint, shell coverage against this offense:

-Teams started to play two deep safeties, to take away the deep, sideline passing plays.
-Zone coverage across the board and played extra men in coverage rather then sending the blitz.
-They forced the Dallas offense to drive the full length of the field and covert multiple times.

Why has this been so successful?

-They cannot run the football with any consistency and take advantage of the light box. Become one dimensional.
-With so many defenders in coverage, Dak is forced to hold the football longer and make tight, accurate throws.
-The offense cannot play clean, they make too many mental mistakes that are drive killers.

-Must be able to run the football, especially against the light box. This will force teams to get out of that deep shell.
-TE passes up the seem will loosen up the coverage on the sidelines.
-Add in a legitimate screen game and force teams to make tackles in space.

Wait, I thought it was all Dak's fault.

 

[GINeric]

There's your problem.

Along with a weak running game and only one receiver with the ability to get open. Those were also the other problems.

 

[deerhunter11]

...biggest offset to this is probably lack of another #1 WR. With no other threat, easy to go two on top.

They wont do that this year..lol..

Right no more double coverage on CeeDee will do wonders for this offense. Pickens will be a difference maker and this is a better coaching staff. Dallas will be much more balanced on offense and will not give up on the run,should be fun .

 

[Proof]

Ever since that home loss to Fangio and the Denver Broncos a few seasons ago, teams have had success following the same blueprint, shell coverage against this offense:

-Teams started to play two deep safeties, to take away the deep, sideline passing plays.
-Zone coverage across the board and played extra men in coverage rather then sending the blitz.
-They forced the Dallas offense to drive the full length of the field and covert multiple times.

Why has this been so successful?

-They cannot run the football with any consistency and take advantage of the light box. Become one dimensional.
-With so many defenders in coverage, Dak is forced to hold the football longer and make tight, accurate throws.
-The offense cannot play clean, they make too many mental mistakes that are drive killers.

-Must be able to run the football, especially against the light box. This will force teams to get out of that deep shell.
-TE passes up the seem will loosen up the coverage on the sidelines.
-Add in a legitimate screen game and force teams to make tackles in space.

it's pretty remarkable how long and to what lengths that game has haunted this team.

 

[Johannes44]

it's pretty remarkable how long and to what lengths that game has haunted this team.

It’s amazing how year after year we wonder why is the offense so predictable? Why so many plays out of the shot gun? Why so many curls and comebacks routes? Etc etc we keep on wondering.

 

[beware_d-ware]

Most NFL offenses struggle against shell coverage, that's why the defenses are moving to it.

Running the ball actually plays into the defense's hands. Running produces less expected points and kills more game clock vs throwing deep passes. Defenses would much prefer to give up ten straight 5-yard runs (and gamble on getting a stuff or a holding penalty somewhere in there, and let you burn up the whole quarter), instead of giving up one 50-yard bomb.

It's like how the NBA switched to shooting threes... perimeter shots are more high variance than driving an iso straight down the lane, but over the long term, your offense will score more total points.

 

[Proof]

Most NFL offenses struggle against shell coverage, that's why the defenses are moving to it.

Running the ball actually plays into the defense's hands. Running produces less expected points and kills more game clock vs throwing deep passes. Defenses would much rather give up ten straight 5-yard runs (and gamble on getting a stuff or a holding penalty somewhere in there, and let you burn up the whole quarter), than give up a 50 yard bomb.

It's like how the NBA switched to shooting threes... they're more high variance than driving an iso straight down the lane, but over the long term, they're a more productive shot.

interesting comparison. makes sense.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Dak was at his best when they ran more RPO looks in his rookie year with Zeke. One read routes allowed him to be decisive. No Zeke. And now Dak has two bad wheels. Has to see the whole field which slows his decisions or makes more bad ones. RPO is gone and so has been Dak.

Except Dak has had his best years after his rookie year lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Cover-2 has been around forever. We played that in high school 100 years ago. So it's not like it baffles all QBs.

Anyway, I think we all agree with need to run it better so the game isn't all on Dak's shoulders. He's not that guy.

Ask Pat Mahomes he sure as hell struggled against it in the Super Bowl….

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Fans do not have to be ignorant of all things football.
They just don't.

The Cowboys don't struggle with base cover 2.

They do struggle when their OL can't block 3-4 rushers and when the 2 deep rolls to double CeeDee.

Dallas simply didn't have other weapons on offense. No RB, no 2nd WR of note. TE was injured.

bbbbut Dak.... Stop sounding like a complete clown. Dak has missed plenty of games which has meant we have seen plenty of OTHER QBS in this offense the last 3 years.
And the offense was significantly worse each time.
Dak may not be the answer but he sure as heck was also not the problem. 1 day you goofies will wipe the drool of your mouths and figure that out.

Great points.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It’s amazing how year after year we wonder why is the offense so predictable? Why so many plays out of the shot gun? Why so many curls and comebacks routes? Etc etc we keep on wondering.

Well when Dak misses time does the offense look better? Did it look better with Dalton, Rush or Lance?

 

[ScipioCowboy]

There's your problem.

Exactly. Dak’s issue aren’t mental. He knows where the ball should go, but he lacks the arm talent. That’s why he went in the fourth round. That’s why he struggles with basic stuff.

It’s not because he’s dumb or secretly hated by his teammates. It’s talent.

 

[beware_d-ware]

Exactly. Dak’s issue aren’t mental. He knows where the ball should go, but he lacks the arm talent. That’s why he went in the fourth round. That’s why he struggles with basic stuff.

It’s not because he’s dumb or secretly hated by his teammates. It’s talent.

He's changed over the last ten years. When he started off, his arm talent was fine, pretty much NFL starter average. And he damn near had the build and mobility of a linebacker. But he'd do dumb stuff like spin out of pressure to his left, and he was good for 2 or 3 wild misses vertically a week.

Dak eventually cleaned up his throwing technique and mental game substantially. But we're at the point now where a spate of lower body injuries is just sapping him physically.

He basically started off as Donovan McNabb and developed into Kirk Cousins.

 

[CowboyFrog]

its not exactly rocket science... if you cant run the ball on a 4 man rush while 7 drop into zone...your offense is gonna suck..pretty standard stuff.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Exactly. Dak’s issue aren’t mental. He knows where the ball should go, but he lacks the arm talent. That’s why he went in the fourth round. That’s why he struggles with basic stuff.

It’s not because he’s dumb or secretly hated by his teammates. It’s talent.

He didn’t go in the 4th because of arm talent lol….it was his foot work and mechanics being inconsistent and the dui. You guys and your revisionist history lol.

 

[nalam]

Wait, I thought it was all Dak's fault.

To an extent his fault also, he gets baited and throws ints, as well as struggle tomake good reads when they show something in pre snap and align (zone) differently post snap ( but even elite qBs cant beat that consistently ) He sometimes lose patience and tries beyond his capabilities and gets picked or didnt have a WR who could take advantage of double coverage against CD.