Offensive Flatlining Completely On Jerry Jones

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Then Jerry Jones has abandoned his role as GM. This is the conflict of interest that I have been discussing for decades now.

Yes, as the OWNER, what you say is true. However, the majority of criticism is directed towards his responsibilities as the GM, in which super bowls is not secondary. For NFL GM's, super bowls are the only goal and all other duties are means to that end.

There is more than money when it comes to a successful career. There is reputation, social contribution, and family legacy. There is also gratitude to patrons of your business's success.

The last item is why the NFL was formed in the first place. Teams used to be named after the city and then the business that sponsored the NFL franchise. It was a way of acknowledging their patrons and enhancing their company's local reputation.

The Green Bay Packers is short for meatpackers, the business that formed the franchise. The original name of the Chicago Bears was the Decatur Staley's, named after Stakey's Furniture Company.

When discussing Jerry Jones, I think it is important to note which of his roles within the franchise we are discussing. We should separate Jerry the owner from Jerry the GM. Otherwise, as mentioned, it is a definite conflict of interest.
I am totally with you. I have been saying the exact same thing that Jerry is in conflict with himself as the owner/GM. and the owner over rules the GM every time.
 

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out of 13 people!!! man your statistical analysis sucks.

did all 13 play at the same time? really!!! 13 played together? or 13 on the team caught the ball. this tells me 67% of passes went else where....given how good CD is, I am not surprised. remember in football there is 2WR sets, 3 WR sets and sometimes they go 4 wide.

so to educate you a little....

tua had 4624 and 1799 went to hill, that's 38%, so 62% went elsewhere. 14 caught the ball from Tua
Goff had 4575, 1515 went to St. Brown that's 33% - 18 caught the ball from Goff
Hurts had 3858, and Brown had 1456, that's 38% - 13 caught the ball
Allen had 4306 and diggs had 1183 of it, that's 27%.. 13 caught the abll
Purdy had 4280 and Aiyuk caught 1342, that's 31% - 14 caught the ball

does this mean they all were leaning heavily on one guy!!? do you really want me to go through and see how many passes each caught and what percentage?

and this year we have Tolbert and Turpin as #2 and #3 recievers....I mean seriously. those two, who most wanted to cut Tolbert last year and turpin an UDFA at 5/9" and 160lbs!!!!
btw, average across the league....you forgot to mention all those other QBs I listed and you can clearly see in the picture....were actually above Dak's...but yeah, I get you conveniently forgetting stuff.

you are not really good at this. quit while you are behind.
I'm talking targets, you are talking yards. Ferguson has actually been the #2 option.
 

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He has led us to where we are today. Hopefully, all the way to the top of the draft. Bright side is that at the top you can build something like Detroit and Washington did. It can be done.
But they didn’t have someone like Jerry trying to ruin, I mean run, everything.
 

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I'm talking targets, you are talking yards. Ferguson has actually been the #2 option.
same. same. same. results will be similar. and again, you listed 13 players on the cowboys who caught the ball, I gave you the numbers for other teams and QBs.
and almost every team has a #1 and #2 option and then there is the others. some teams #2 options are similar but perhaps not very good, thus you will see similar numbers.
you analysis was totally wrong.
 

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same. same. same. results will be similar. and again, you listed 13 players on the cowboys who caught the ball, I gave you the numbers for other teams and QBs.
and almost every team has a #1 and #2 option and then there is the others. some teams #2 options are similar but perhaps not very good, thus you will see similar numbers.
you analysis was totally wrong.
All you proved was a couple other QB's also tend to focus on one receiver.

What's their completion percentage when targeting those receivers and average air yards?
 

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All you proved was a couple other QB's also tend to focus on one receiver.

What's their completion percentage when targeting those receivers and average air yards?
couple of others...LOL.

I listed 6 on there for you. I can do the same for all of them and get similar numbers.

come on dude. give it up while you are behind. enough is enough for you. now you are trying to spin your way out of your own doodoo with a bunch of nonsense that you have no idea what they mean.
 

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Jerry Jones and his contributions:

1. Cut Zeke before the 2023 season but made no effort to replace him with another RB capable of effective productivity in a two-back rotation. This was despite the fact that Pollard was coming back from an injury.

This was also despite the fact that there were several options in that year's draft.

2. Procrastinated on both Dak and CeeDee's contract negotiations to the point where it was an obvious team distraction. This resulted in a holdout by CeeDee which prevented CeeDee and Dak to be in sync at the start of the season.

This also created incremental increases in Dak's salary demands to the point where the Cowboys will be paying around 15 million dollars more per year than if they had signed him the previous season. This money could have been wisely spent on a veteran free agent DT or RB or OL.

3. Did not resign Pollard after the 2023 season but did not replace him until the only choice left was the guy they cut the previous season. Once again, they failed to address the issue in the draft.

4. Never adequately addressed depth at the QB position. The Cowboys drafted only 5 QB's in the past 23 drafts, none higher than the 4th round. Bill Belichick drafted 11 QB's in the same time frame despite having Tom Brady, arguably the best in NFL history. That is an average of one QB every two drafts.

This lack of foresight resulted in almost unprecedented leverage by a QB. Without any obvious alternative, they were at the mercy of Dak's agent.

5. Despite the fact that they spent a quarter of their salary cap on Dak, they decided to protect this investment with an O-line featuring two rookies, both of whom did not play their position in college. One of the positions was LT, the guy that protects the QB's blind side.

This position was manned by someone considered to be "raw" and in need of development. The other position was center, the guy that gets the ball to the QB. Keep in mind, there were no feasible RB's and the team was destined to be a one-dimensional nightmare in which defenses had no fear of the running game. This allowed them to attack the QB with little restraint. Eventually, Dak's body could no longer take the constant duress.

6. Refused to participate in veteran free agency, despite desperate needs that would be difficult to fill in the draft. If the Cowboys had signed one veteran free agent O-Lineman capable of starting then it would have taken a great deal of pressure off the rookies. They could have signed a good RB.

Last season, the Cowboys had the #1 scoring offense for the 2nd time in three seasons. They were ranked 5th in offensive yardage. They were ranked #2 in turnovers and #1 in 1st downs.

This season they are ranked 23rd in scoring, 21st in total yards, 21st in 1st downs and 31st in turnovers.

Jerry Jones's neglect, poor team building strategy, ill advised risks, and terrible draft decisions created a burden that was impossible for this offense to overcome. Jerry Jones is the most prominent reason for the state of this offense.

This is the typical cycle. People like Tex Schram, Tom Landry, Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells are builders of champions. Jerry Jones has always been the destroyer of opportunity.

......From first to worse in half a season...........
Well said. Jerry has always been a GM who does not know how build a great roster. He literally never has.

Jimmy of course built those 90s teams, Parcells did a rebuild from the ashes after Jimmy’s talent all left or retired, then after Parcells left in 2006 we had a good talent base again with the players he influenced us to draft. The 2016-2023 years would have to be the best years of Will McClay’s influence. Again, Jerry is no football roster architect.

The problem with JJ serving as GM is he is incapable of understanding what it takes to build a roster that can win in the playoffs. They have occasionally done well in regular season, but that is different. To have a roster capable of winning multiple playoff games requires a deeper understanding of roster building than just having a collection of “stars” you pay for along with the rest of the roster being dumpster dive FAs or unproven draftees.

Again, Jerry is a fantasy football player, not a GM.
 

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He has led us to where we are today. Hopefully, all the way to the top of the draft. Bright side is that at the top you can build something like Detroit and Washington did. It can be done.
Detroit picked in the top 10 multiple times.

One draft picking that high isnt going to net you a new team.

Remember when you said we were going to be fine after the draft?

The problem with using ONLY the draft is you have to hit home runs on all of your picks. You dont have margin for error. Schoonmaker is losing snaps, our 2023 draft is looking worse and worse. They have no RB worth anything. The list of damage this team has caused by simply not utilizing FA is detrimental.

Sure they will pick high. After that they will have an easy schedule, beat up on cupcakes and then pick in the top 20 again.
 

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Well said. Jerry has always been a GM who does not know how build a great roster. He literally never has.

Jimmy of course built those 90s teams, Parcells did a rebuild from the ashes after Jimmy’s talent all left or retired, then after Parcells left in 2006 we had a good talent base again with the players he influenced us to draft. The 2016-2023 years would have to be the best years of Will McClay’s influence. Again, Jerry is no football roster architect.

The problem with JJ serving as GM is he is incapable of understanding what it takes to build a roster that can win in the playoffs. They have occasionally done well in regular season, but that is different. To have a roster capable of winning multiple playoff games requires a deeper understanding of roster building than just having a collection of “stars” you pay for along with the rest of the roster being dumpster dive FAs or unproven draftees.

Again, Jerry is a fantasy football player, not a GM.
All you have to do to really see the architect of the 90s dynasty is look at every trade since Jimmy left.

Since Switzer won with Jimmys team, this team has been taken advantage of on almost every single trade. The GM cant build a team with a salary cap. He has no idea how to use the salary cap or even where his team was cap wise when he decided to say he was "all-in". This GM/Owner is terrible.
 

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Jerry Jones and his contributions:

1. Cut Zeke before the 2023 season but made no effort to replace him with another RB capable of effective productivity in a two-back rotation. This was despite the fact that Pollard was coming back from an injury.

This was also despite the fact that there were several options in that year's draft.

2. Procrastinated on both Dak and CeeDee's contract negotiations to the point where it was an obvious team distraction. This resulted in a holdout by CeeDee which prevented CeeDee and Dak to be in sync at the start of the season.

This also created incremental increases in Dak's salary demands to the point where the Cowboys will be paying around 15 million dollars more per year than if they had signed him the previous season. This money could have been wisely spent on a veteran free agent DT or RB or OL.

3. Did not resign Pollard after the 2023 season but did not replace him until the only choice left was the guy they cut the previous season. Once again, they failed to address the issue in the draft.

4. Never adequately addressed depth at the QB position. The Cowboys drafted only 5 QB's in the past 23 drafts, none higher than the 4th round. Bill Belichick drafted 11 QB's in the same time frame despite having Tom Brady, arguably the best in NFL history. That is an average of one QB every two drafts.

This lack of foresight resulted in almost unprecedented leverage by a QB. Without any obvious alternative, they were at the mercy of Dak's agent.

5. Despite the fact that they spent a quarter of their salary cap on Dak, they decided to protect this investment with an O-line featuring two rookies, both of whom did not play their position in college. One of the positions was LT, the guy that protects the QB's blind side.

This position was manned by someone considered to be "raw" and in need of development. The other position was center, the guy that gets the ball to the QB. Keep in mind, there were no feasible RB's and the team was destined to be a one-dimensional nightmare in which defenses had no fear of the running game. This allowed them to attack the QB with little restraint. Eventually, Dak's body could no longer take the constant duress.

6. Refused to participate in veteran free agency, despite desperate needs that would be difficult to fill in the draft. If the Cowboys had signed one veteran free agent O-Lineman capable of starting then it would have taken a great deal of pressure off the rookies. They could have signed a good RB.

Last season, the Cowboys had the #1 scoring offense for the 2nd time in three seasons. They were ranked 5th in offensive yardage. They were ranked #2 in turnovers and #1 in 1st downs.

This season they are ranked 23rd in scoring, 21st in total yards, 21st in 1st downs and 31st in turnovers.

Jerry Jones's neglect, poor team building strategy, ill advised risks, and terrible draft decisions created a burden that was impossible for this offense to overcome. Jerry Jones is the most prominent reason for the state of this offense.

This is the typical cycle. People like Tex Schram, Tom Landry, Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells are builders of champions. Jerry Jones has always been the destroyer of opportunity.

......From first to worse in half a season...........

No. Though Jerry deserves a large share of blame, the offensive line was already deteriorating. You could argue that Zack and Terrence are the weakest links currently (with Guyton hot on their heels).

The running back position is extremely reliant on the offensive line, and besides Barry Sanders the RB would not make a huge difference till the line plays better. It’s difficult to find even average guys for offensive line in FA and you have to pay them elite money. WR same thing. Most of the big fish have to be traded for with premium picks-or lower picks plus an elite contract.

The starting QB and the future with him looks catastrophic as his mobility and arm strength fall off even further.
 

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No. Though Jerry deserves a large share of blame, the offensive line was already deteriorating. You could argue that Zack and Terrence are the weakest links currently (with Guyton hot on their heels).

The running back position is extremely reliant on the offensive line, and besides Barry Sanders the RB would not make a huge difference till the line plays better. It’s difficult to find even average guys for offensive line in FA and you have to pay them elite money. WR same thing. Most of the big fish have to be traded for with premium picks-or lower picks plus an elite contract.

The starting QB and the future with him looks catastrophic as his mobility and arm strength fall off even further.
If the On-line is deteriorating, whose job is it to see that it never reaches that point by building a team where the talent level of the backups have the potential to compete ?

The reason the RB's rely so much on the O- line is because they can't get anything without them.. This RB squad is weak.

Whose job is it to evaluate the RB position, determine it's strength and provide additional talent when needed?

This offense is what they are and what they are was determined by the guy who gets the players.

He wants credit? Well, he got it and he earned it and this time he needs to own it.
 

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Jerry Jones and his contributions:

1. Cut Zeke before the 2023 season but made no effort to replace him with another RB capable of effective productivity in a two-back rotation. This was despite the fact that Pollard was coming back from an injury.

This was also despite the fact that there were several options in that year's draft.

2. Procrastinated on both Dak and CeeDee's contract negotiations to the point where it was an obvious team distraction. This resulted in a holdout by CeeDee which prevented CeeDee and Dak to be in sync at the start of the season.

This also created incremental increases in Dak's salary demands to the point where the Cowboys will be paying around 15 million dollars more per year than if they had signed him the previous season. This money could have been wisely spent on a veteran free agent DT or RB or OL.

3. Did not resign Pollard after the 2023 season but did not replace him until the only choice left was the guy they cut the previous season. Once again, they failed to address the issue in the draft.

4. Never adequately addressed depth at the QB position. The Cowboys drafted only 5 QB's in the past 23 drafts, none higher than the 4th round. Bill Belichick drafted 11 QB's in the same time frame despite having Tom Brady, arguably the best in NFL history. That is an average of one QB every two drafts.

This lack of foresight resulted in almost unprecedented leverage by a QB. Without any obvious alternative, they were at the mercy of Dak's agent.

5. Despite the fact that they spent a quarter of their salary cap on Dak, they decided to protect this investment with an O-line featuring two rookies, both of whom did not play their position in college. One of the positions was LT, the guy that protects the QB's blind side.

This position was manned by someone considered to be "raw" and in need of development. The other position was center, the guy that gets the ball to the QB. Keep in mind, there were no feasible RB's and the team was destined to be a one-dimensional nightmare in which defenses had no fear of the running game. This allowed them to attack the QB with little restraint. Eventually, Dak's body could no longer take the constant duress.

6. Refused to participate in veteran free agency, despite desperate needs that would be difficult to fill in the draft. If the Cowboys had signed one veteran free agent O-Lineman capable of starting then it would have taken a great deal of pressure off the rookies. They could have signed a good RB.

Last season, the Cowboys had the #1 scoring offense for the 2nd time in three seasons. They were ranked 5th in offensive yardage. They were ranked #2 in turnovers and #1 in 1st downs.

This season they are ranked 23rd in scoring, 21st in total yards, 21st in 1st downs and 31st in turnovers.

Jerry Jones's neglect, poor team building strategy, ill advised risks, and terrible draft decisions created a burden that was impossible for this offense to overcome. Jerry Jones is the most prominent reason for the state of this offense.

This is the typical cycle. People like Tex Schram, Tom Landry, Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells are builders of champions. Jerry Jones has always been the destroyer of opportunity.

......From first to worse in half a season...........
Great post! It's as if a complete lunatic was making all the football decisions, never relying on football experts ...
 

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couple of others...LOL.

I listed 6 on there for you. I can do the same for all of them and get similar numbers.

come on dude. give it up while you are behind. enough is enough for you. now you are trying to spin your way out of your own doodoo with a bunch of nonsense that you have no idea what they mean.
It makes a difference.

But what are you really trying to prove here? That Dak is a good QB? That he doesn't try to force the ball to CD? That the interceptions aren't his fault because he doesn't have two all-pro WRs?
 

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Detroit picked in the top 10 multiple times.

One draft picking that high isnt going to net you a new team.

Remember when you said we were going to be fine after the draft?

The problem with using ONLY the draft is you have to hit home runs on all of your picks. You dont have margin for error. Schoonmaker is losing snaps, our 2023 draft is looking worse and worse. They have no RB worth anything. The list of damage this team has caused by simply not utilizing FA is detrimental.

Sure they will pick high. After that they will have an easy schedule, beat up on cupcakes and then pick in the top 20 again.
Don’t take the bait. That’s the only poster I block but I don’t need to read what it says to know.

As one small example, I remember as the last off-season was approaching reading posts like “they must sign a DT and LB in free agency and they will.”

Then they didn’t, yet it was defended. It’s borderline not legit and antagonistic. Possibly without the borderline part.

I don’t mind people being positive if that’s their choice but come on. Be at least a little real.
 

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It makes a difference.

But what are you really trying to prove here? That Dak is a good QB? That he doesn't try to force the ball to CD? That the interceptions aren't his fault because he doesn't have two all-pro WRs?
not trying to prove anything? what's your point? I never argued that he was a good QB or not, but you clearly posted some stuff in a silo and claimed something. all I did was put it side by side with everybody else.

interceptions are QBs fault and sometimes just good defensive play and have seen very few times bounce off of a WR and get intercepted....what's your point with that?

you are all over the place my friend.
 

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If the On-line is deteriorating, whose job is it to see that it never reaches that point by building a team where the talent level of the backups have the potential to compete ?

The reason the RB's rely so much on the O- line is because they can't get anything without them.. This RB squad is weak.

Whose job is it to evaluate the RB position, determine it's strength and provide additional talent when needed?

This offense is what they are and what they are was determined by the guy who gets the players.

He wants credit? Well, he got it and he earned it and this time he needs to own it.

It is the scouting department’s job to identify guys that are not certified blue chip players and get them in the building for the coaches to turn into solid starters in this league. Same thing with the running backs. Bijan Robinson had an okay season last year, but this year looks even better with the same offensive line but MUCH better passing attack. The league has a dearth of good offensive lines. It’s difficult to maintain one good unit-let alone a backup unit that is every bit as good.

The current QB requires elite offensive line play and several high end weapons to look like a top 10-15 guy. The deterioration happened over years of time, and they weren’t sure exactly when it would eventually fold-that time is now. They invested high picks, but not every pick pans out. It will take years to rebuild that trench.
 
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