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Ok, I dont think this was already brought up. Anyone who has watched the cowboys this season can see that we have been screwed over by bad calls, the fumble against NY comes to mind as just one of many calls this year. But after watching the Denver San Diego game, I was amazed at how bad it is in the NFL. San Diego got royally screwed right before the half with that non fumble call. Here is my question. Are the refs and league going to hang Peyton Manning another ring? OR is he actually going to have to win it all on his own without calls from the ref going entirely his way?
 

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No one is trying to give Manning a ring.

This is a professional sports league so I don't believe there is any conspiracy theories to apply in this case.

As for bad reffing. I don't believe it is bad reffing. After watching games for almost forty years the standard for enforcement of the rules has improved, but no where near what the cameras have been able to deliver to the masses.

If I was offered a job in the NFL the last one I would take is being a ref. If 100% accuracy is the demand of the customer base, the fans, because they have (16) cameras and three cracks at instant replay. Then I would demand as a ref the authority to stop every single play to ensure the call was correct.

I would ref with the purpose of a 100% accurately called game, but I would guarantee a 14 hour contest with 700 commercials as I spent most of my time under the hood making sure accuracy was delivered to the customer.

Clearly this is ludicrous, but my suggestion to you is to be cautious about what you expect and want. You can't ask the refs to just be accurate at the time that makes the most sense to you. Everyday there are tens of millions of fans who have tens of millions of unique opinions on how the game should be called.

This is a recipe for conflicting demands and one that makes reffing demanding and impossible to make everyone happy.
 

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Cost us a possible TD by McClain in the Tenn. game. Another fumble return for a sure TD against the Saints (I think), and a fumble last week against the Giants. That's a lot for one season... much less not quite one half of a season.

Maybe some missed turnover calls will eventually fall our way?
 

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Idk, we.ve caught a few breaks as well. The roughing passer on Romo a couple games back where he was hit just in the shoulder, not head. The non holding call against seattle on that 4th down.

I usually fall in the, it all evens out, catagory...most of the time.
 

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Idk, we.ve caught a few breaks as well. The roughing passer on Romo a couple games back where he was hit just in the shoulder, not head. The non holding call against seattle on that 4th down.

I usually fall in the, it all evens out, catagory...most of the time.

I know that Dallas has gotten a few calls that went their way but I was specifically talking about turnovers. Those can be game changing moments and the refs have taken away 2 TD's they shouldn't have and one fumble recovery that should have been their's.
 

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I know that Dallas has gotten a few calls that went their way but I was specifically talking about turnovers. Those can be game changing moments and the refs have taken away 2 TD's they shouldn't have and one fumble recovery that should have been their's.

I do not believe in inconspiracys, if i did i would stop watching football. I want football to be legit and i truely believe it is. However, I do believe Goodell has too much influence on the in men stripes. Many cases and its a sub comsencoius thing becaues they're being judge by the league front office. Certain team always get a break at the most critcal part of the game. I havent seen the play yet, but when is ok for a Ref to coach players as in the Jets field goal attempt against one of Goodells favorite team the Pats.

Its time for a new Commish.
 

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No one is trying to give Manning a ring.

This is a professional sports league so I don't believe there is any conspiracy theories to apply in this case.

As for bad reffing. I don't believe it is bad reffing. After watching games for almost forty years the standard for enforcement of the rules has improved, but no where near what the cameras have been able to deliver to the masses.

If I was offered a job in the NFL the last one I would take is being a ref. If 100% accuracy is the demand of the customer base, the fans, because they have (16) cameras and three cracks at instant replay. Then I would demand as a ref the authority to stop every single play to ensure the call was correct.

I would ref with the purpose of a 100% accurately called game, but I would guarantee a 14 hour contest with 700 commercials as I spent most of my time under the hood making sure accuracy was delivered to the customer.

Clearly this is ludicrous, but my suggestion to you is to be cautious about what you expect and want. You can't ask the refs to just be accurate at the time that makes the most sense to you. Everyday there are tens of millions of fans who have tens of millions of unique opinions on how the game should be called.

This is a recipe for conflicting demands and one that makes reffing demanding and impossible to make everyone happy.

I agree, but what im talking about is plays that they actually review and still the call goes the other way. That is what im referring too. That fumble recovery in the SD Denver game was a joke. It would have given the chargers the ball back with 4 mins on the clock on denvers 45 getting the ball back after the half. The game at that point was tied 7-7. That is a very bad call A by the refs and B after the fact it was reviewed and still went denvers way. And it was an obvious fumble. There was also a pick in the endzone by Weddle that was taken away for a hold, there was no hold, AT ALL. And denver scored the next play.
 

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Cost us a possible TD by McClain in the Tenn. game. Another fumble return for a sure TD against the Saints (I think), and a fumble last week against the Giants. That's a lot for one season... much less not quite one half of a season.

Maybe some missed turnover calls will eventually fall our way?

I know you watch enough football to know you see it in about every game. It just gets magnified when it's a cowboys game because we love our team.
 

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I agree, but what im talking about is plays that they actually review and still the call goes the other way. That is what im referring too. That fumble recovery in the SD Denver game was a joke. It would have given the chargers the ball back with 4 mins on the clock on denvers 45 getting the ball back after the half. The game at that point was tied 7-7. That is a very bad call A by the refs and B after the fact it was reviewed and still went denvers way. And it was an obvious fumble. There was also a pick in the endzone by Weddle that was taken away for a hold, there was no hold, AT ALL. And denver scored the next play.

It's called the human factor.
 

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Ok, I dont think this was already brought up. Anyone who has watched the cowboys this season can see that we have been screwed over by bad calls, the fumble against NY comes to mind as just one of many calls this year. But after watching the Denver San Diego game, I was amazed at how bad it is in the NFL. San Diego got royally screwed right before the half with that non fumble call. Here is my question. Are the refs and league going to hang Peyton Manning another ring? OR is he actually going to have to win it all on his own without calls from the ref going entirely his way?

No one is trying to give Manning a ring.

This is a professional sports league so I don't believe there is any conspiracy theories to apply in this case.

As for bad reffing. I don't believe it is bad reffing. After watching games for almost forty years the standard for enforcement of the rules has improved, but no where near what the cameras have been able to deliver to the masses.

If I was offered a job in the NFL the last one I would take is being a ref. If 100% accuracy is the demand of the customer base, the fans, because they have (16) cameras and three cracks at instant replay. Then I would demand as a ref the authority to stop every single play to ensure the call was correct.

I would ref with the purpose of a 100% accurately called game, but I would guarantee a 14 hour contest with 700 commercials as I spent most of my time under the hood making sure accuracy was delivered to the customer.

Clearly this is ludicrous, but my suggestion to you is to be cautious about what you expect and want. You can't ask the refs to just be accurate at the time that makes the most sense to you. Everyday there are tens of millions of fans who have tens of millions of unique opinions on how the game should be called.

This is a recipe for conflicting demands and one that makes reffing demanding and impossible to make everyone happy.

Most of it is just incompetence.

I don't believe there is a conspiracy, but I do believe that individual refs are biased for or against some teams.

Also, I think many of them like making themselves part of the game by calling more penalties in critical situations.
 

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I agree, but what im talking about is plays that they actually review and still the call goes the other way. That is what im referring too. That fumble recovery in the SD Denver game was a joke. It would have given the chargers the ball back with 4 mins on the clock on denvers 45 getting the ball back after the half. The game at that point was tied 7-7. That is a very bad call A by the refs and B after the fact it was reviewed and still went denvers way. And it was an obvious fumble. There was also a pick in the endzone by Weddle that was taken away for a hold, there was no hold, AT ALL. And denver scored the next play.

There is a good bit of holding on every play. Now it does appear at times that Dallas gets the worst of it when it comes to calling or not calling holding. But I admit it is most likely my bias in the appearance so I don't take that possible observation on my part seriously. As a former ref I can tell you an official team often calls the game a different way at times depending on the teams and circumstances.

I don't believe there are many conspiracies and none in regards to NFL officiating.
 

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Just ask the Seahawks when they played the Steelers in the super bowl.
 

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Ok, I dont think this was already brought up. Anyone who has watched the cowboys this season can see that we have been screwed over by bad calls, the fumble against NY comes to mind as just one of many calls this year.
We've benefited from several bad calls/no-calls this year. I haven't noticed any imbalance against us.
 

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I just hate watching a great game only to see it ruined when the refs want to remind everyone their apart of the game as well
 

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Cost us a possible TD by McClain in the Tenn. game. Another fumble return for a sure TD against the Saints (I think), and a fumble last week against the Giants. That's a lot for one season... much less not quite one half of a season.

Maybe some missed turnover calls will eventually fall our way?

Not to mention the Durant INT against Seattle that should have been ruled a catch and then it at least would have been reviewed.
 
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