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Shady12;2372669 said:
Read on another board that his completion % was 83%, higher than his season average. Crazy, because like you said it didn't seem like it.
He was like 26-28 in the first half.
 

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Shady12;2372669 said:
Read on another board that his completion % was 83%, higher than his season average. Crazy, because like you said it didn't seem like it.


my point of it was, that the receivers dropped a handful of passes that hit them right in the hands....

He could have easily completed 42 or 43 of his passes. Also, had the refs not blown the call where Williams scored, Colt wouldnt have had that incompletion on 4th down.
 

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Biggems;2372661 said:
Now onto the Texas offense. Why do they keep using that same stupid running play? It is some kind of delayed sweep that is an all or nothing play. Why can't they just use the old counter play they used for Ricky Williams or Cedric Benson? Why can't they run up the middle instead of all of these stupid tosses and sweeps?

The play in question is not on my list of favorites, either. However, in my opinion, the Longhorns have little choice. They run a spread offense with a zone read component (though the zone read component is far less prominent than it was during Vince Young's day). Texas's base offensive set is a shotgun formation with three wide receivers; consequently, the running game consists primarily of draws, sweeps, and option pitch outs.

During the days of Ricky Williams and Cedric Benson, Texas ran a far more conventional two back set with the quarterback lining up under center. Therefore, the running game was far more power-based.

In my opinion, this current Texas teams lacks the personnel to line up in the I-formation on any consistent basis.
 

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ScipioCowboy;2372822 said:
The play in question is not on my list of favorites, either. However, in my opinion, the Longhorns have little choice. They run a spread offense with a zone read component (though the zone read component is far less prominent than it was during Vince Young's day). Texas's base offensive set is a shotgun formation with three wide receivers; consequently, the running game consists primarily of draws, sweeps, and option pitch outs.

During the days of Ricky Williams and Cedric Benson, Texas ran a far more conventional two back set with the quarterback lining up under center. Therefore, the running game was far more power-based.

In my opinion, this current Texas teams lacks the personnel to line up in the I-formation on any consistent basis.

Only because they are missing a TE. I would run the split I with 3 WRs.....Cosby, Shipley, and Collins. In the backfield have Williams at FB and Obie/McGee at RB
 

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Biggems;2372661 said:
IMO, and the final replay angle showed it, Williams scored on 3rd down there in the final minute. His knees were still in the air when he stretched the ball over the goal. This is the same kind of thing that got Colt injured against KSU two years ago. Selvin Young scored on 3rd down, but the refs didn't credit him with the TD, and they didn't even review it. So on 4th down, Colt scores on a QB sneak, but gets his neck injured on the play. Had the officials got the call right or even used replay, the injury would have been avoided.

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I just watched that 3rd down and 4th down play. I think Oklahoma State was offsides on both play. The nose tackle hit the line twice before the ball was snapped. Should have been a free play both times.
 

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Since they went to primarily being a shotgun team, don't understand the running game, even when they had Vince Young it could have been more effective. Could do what EVERY other team in the nation does when running the shotgun spread. Run the triple option. The running plays they run out of the shotgun are tough to be successful with and slow developing, and usually the backs get the ball with their shoulders square to the sideline instead of the line of scrimmage. If they run the zone read, there should be a pitch man..just gives the D something else to account for. The only time they do it is if they have the stupid formation when they bring in Chiles with Colt. And that isn't really an option because they're going to pitch it to him just to be cute.
 

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Shady12;2373481 said:
even when they had Vince Young it could have been more effective. Could do what EVERY other team in the nation does when running the shotgun spread. Run the triple option.

dont know about that man. The '05 team scored more points in that season than any team in college football history. It was one of the best offenses of all time. I dont see how they could have been "more effective" unless you didnt watch them much at all :)
 

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I give credit to OSU, they are a good team with some very good talent. There is a reason they were ranked as high as they were. Texas had to battle for the win and I think Texas will be better off because of it. You are not going to blow out top ranked teams often.
 

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On the coverage units for UT.......they changed their normal coverage and went to an exotic coverage specifically for OSU....unfortunately it didnt work. After halftime, UT went back to doing their normal coverage scheme and it was much more effective.

I doubt they tinker with their coverage unit again the remainder of the season.
 

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ZB9;2377269 said:
dont know about that man. The '05 team scored more points in that season than any team in college football history. It was one of the best offenses of all time. I dont see how they could have been "more effective" unless you didnt watch them much at all :)

The running game wasnt all that effective...it was more Vince improvising. Yes, they scored a lot, but it wasn't because they were effective in running the plays....they were effective because Vince was just a superior athlete and was able to change the game with his freakish athletic ability.
 
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